paul moy
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So the discredited junta dictatorship of the EUSSR have implemented an export ban because we are so successful and is breaking our contracts.
Time for us to ramp up our facilities and for AZ to close its plants in the EU, and for other pharma companies to do the same.
They really are lowlifes, just like their ignorant supporters:
WTO ASAP Boris !!!!!!
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28 minutes ago, Well b back said:So when we were told Brexit was about the economy, investment, the ability to carry on trading with the EU this was not really true, it clearly for many was about racial hatred towards Europeans.
You are now using a vaccine to cover up where it is going wrong and put fuel on the fire of your hatred towards them.
We cannot trade with a mafia organisation that only wants trade to be one way and is using every endeavour to deliberately damage us.
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28 minutes ago, Well b back said:You are lying.
Throughout the world the EU has been praised for the exports they have made so far, it is only the U.K. that have been goading them. Now if Johnson’s latest comments about about greed and capitalism were meant then they will have no option but to carry out their threat.
up until yesterday the EU weren’t going to do this, now I am not so sure.
By the way you may notice you are the only one that replies to Swindon now.
The EU have not made exports but the vaccine companies have as they are fulfilling contractual obligations due to early orders place by other countries. To say that the EU export vaccines is a clear lie so withdraw it !!!!
The only orders that the EU would export are under the COVAX scheme which the UK already have done and will continue to do. Gambia for instance are offering free jabs and an expat I know has already had one there.
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43 minutes ago, SwindonCanary said:It is reciprocated here because of their overbearing, arrogant, jealous and bitter attitude. We should cut all ties until the EU treat us with the respect that an independent sovereign nation deserves. They are like a bitter and jealous divorcee that cannot move on so it is down to us to make an absolutely clean break.
WTO ASAP please !!!!!
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38 minutes ago, sonyc said:I really can't wait for this in 2022. I grow my own food now and celebrate our weather every day. This looks like something right up my street. Time to put our arms around each other, Brexiters and Remoaners alike and hail the new Global Britain. It might be a tad expensive at £120m but what the hell, opportunities like this don't come around very often do they? This is the positive Brexit thread too.
Well said. Those that cannot unite behind 'Global Britain' should go and unite in the Vaterland.
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3 minutes ago, Terminally Yellow said:Oh Paul.
The difference between you and Swindon, Paul, is that Swindon at least has a degree of intelligence.
You on the other hand, calling you stupid would be an insult to stupid people nationwide. I mean if I threw a stick, you would absolutely chase after it. I don't know what makes you so dumb, but it really works.
Patriotism is the blind support of everything a government does. You are nothing more than a nationalist clapping monkey, dismissed by the majority because you're too incapable of joining a national debate in any meaningful way.
So carry on with your mundane comments "You are a UK hater" or other such ****. I'll continue to talk to the adults in this forum and ignore the children like you.
You are not a UK patriot so go and live in your EUtopia........ you are not wanted here
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The WTO slags off the EU for stealing vaccines from Australia and trying to steal them from the UK !!!!! 🤗
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7 hours ago, Terminally Yellow said:See this is where you Brexiteers fail. Hard. You don't actually read what's in front of you. You read what you want to see.
Quote from the piece
The transition period and the application of EU law in the UK ends on 1 January 2021 (unless extended). However, under the WA the CJEU’s jurisdiction continues beyond the transition period in some areas.
First, its jurisdiction over concepts of EU law that arise over the interpretation and application of the WA lasts as long as aspects of the WA remain in operation
The EU are taking us to Court over our attempts to extend a concept created in the WA.
As per the agreement between the parties, the European Courts retain jurisdiction.
I can quote you the sections of the withdrawal agreement that makes this law if you prefer, but something tells me it would go very much over your head.
People such as you should go and live in your beloved EU.
You are clearly anti-UK
My view as a loyal backer of my country is that we should ditch the WA, pay the EU nothing and go to WTO, as the EU are dead set on damaging us at all costs, so we may as well suffer that but outside of the ridiculous agreement.
Brexiteers never wanted a WA, it is purely a remoaner construct and is not to the UK's benefit.
If the EU put an export ban on us the whole agreement with them should be declared null and void imo as any good faith is gone, as this is the just another item in a number of irrational vicious attacks by the failing EUSSR.
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3 minutes ago, Yellow Fever said:Yes it's a balanced factual article warts and all for everybody pros and cons both sides. That's all I ask is the facts not the hyperbole. It's AZ that have made the problem. All that said it's now in the realm of politics which will trump all of this.
Rubbish. The EU made the problem by ordering late from AZ and also investing in failing vaccine companies in the EU such as french Senofi rather than AZ.
This was compounded by the UK choosing the right company to invest in and having a contract for the first 100 million doses.
The contract with the EU is a 'best endeavours' contract which sits below the UK in priority, so the EU has no leg to stand on.
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Yet another arrogant EU MEP loser denigrating AstraZeneca.....
Time to move all AZ production to the UK imo:
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How stupid are these EU MEPs !! 🤣😂
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22 minutes ago, Mark .Y. said:Look, I don't have any axe to grind with the EU at all, I have an apartment in Spain which I really have missed over the last 13 months, I just want to get back and visit again.
But, it does seem to me that they didn't quite get all this right. Not surprising when you are dealing with a number of member states and you are in a situation that you have never seen before.
As for the timing of the signing of the contracts (which shouldn't make any difference if AZ agreed to supply a certain amount of doses in a certain timescale), I can find plenty of links that suggest the UK signed with AZ in May 2020 and this link, from the EU itself says they signed in late August 2020........so make what you will of that.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_21_302
Should add that the May thing was a licensing agreement which (and I don't understand the details of such stuff) but it appears to be important........copy and paste below
"The UK's contract is in fact dated Aug 28, one day after the EU's, although an earlier licensing deal in May between the parties of Oxford University, AstraZeneca and the Government appears to trump the later purchasing agreements"
Due to the contract with AZ we are entitled to the first 100 million doses. It cannot be simpler !!!!!
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EU ""Essentially the work of the devil "" ...... well said Australia !! 🤗
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3 hours ago, Haus said:Obsessions with flags always seemed like a strange American thing to me, furthest thing from British really.
Sums up the EU pretty much who are absolutely flag-loving, just as their past nasty ancestors were. If you ever visit Germany you will find flagpoles adorned in people's gardens far more than in the UK.
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18 hours ago, Herman said:Aye. Seems like the only thing we have exported to Europe these last few months is the Kent variant. 😉
The fact that we found it here does not mean that it started here, and it probably did not. It is even in the Philippines which has had closed borders for the past year.
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8 hours ago, SwindonCanary said:The EU is not threatening blocking exports of the vaccine, it's blocking exports to the UK. Exports to over a 100 other countries are absolutely fine. Look it up - it's just the EU spitting its dummy out again.
It's not just the EU but the remoaners on here also....... 🤗
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7 hours ago, Rock The Boat said:That quote says Western countries bought their way to the front of the queue by partnering with drug companies.
I would interpret this differently. Western countries put up the investment money to research a vaccine cure and therefore earned the right to be first in the queue.
There was nothing stopping the ASEAN organisation of south-east Asian countries grouping together to provide investment money to research a Covid vaccine. Nor nothing stopping the Association of South American countries doing the same. Or even the oil rich countries of the Middle East. But they all decided not to do this and stood back and let countries the the UK take the risk of putting up the money to find a cure. So yes, we do have a right to be first in the queue. Having said that we do have a responsibility to help others after we have taken care of our own and working with the Commonwealth countries is the ideal place to start.
Also, the UK put in around £9 per capita to the EU's £2 so we should indeed be ahead of the EU in vaccine supply.
The EU incidentally passes 600,000 covid deaths this week and many now and into the future will be due to vaccine hesitancy caused by the EU itself denigrating the super AstraZeneca, not supply, as they have a massive stockpile.
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More bad news for the awful, evil, communist EUSSR :
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13 hours ago, keelansgrandad said:You say the EU is lucky to have any vaccine? But AZ took their order and their money but didn't deliver because, and we have told you this so many times, a batch of culture failed and they could only deliver 25 % of the order.
Britain do not own the rights to the vaccine. That was owned by Oxford, who then donated it to AZ. Despite the UK Government paying millions maybe billions for development.
AZ are producing non profit until 1July or when the pandemic is over. It retains the right to do so. And retains the right to charge far more than it currently charges after the initial contract is fulfilled.
They still have the EU's money but still haven't delivered as per contract.
The EU don't really want AstraZ and are only demanding deliveries in order to reduce our supply as they are jealous of our success, and thus their constant denigration of AstraZ efficacy to sway people from taking it. In any case they have lesser contract rights than us as it is in our contract with Astra that we get the first 100 million doses due to our upfront investment last year, and of course our much earlier order.
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19 hours ago, Aggy said:Wasn’t quite what I meant I don’t think - we are in a lockdown still (so can’t currently go back into one) whereas European countries haven’t been in a nationwide “stay home” style lockdown for months. We’re seeing European numbers go up whilst ours continue down, but what will be interesting is to look back when the dust has settled so to speak and see different countries’ death rates vs how long they were in nationwide “stay home” style lockdowns.
Currently it’s too early to say. But at the moment, we’ve had longer in national “stay home” style lockdowns than pretty much all European countries and yet our death rates are still worse (in many cases much worse). That might start to change depending on vaccination rates, but it will be interesting.
Of course every country is different, but whilst we’ve heard that lockdowns in China, New Zealand etc are good examples of why we should have locked down hard early, we haven’t heard much on here about why European countries have lower death rates than the uk despite being in full lockdowns for shorter periods of time than we have.
If you look at deaths per million of population we are not the worst. Slovenia, Belgium and the Czech Republic in the EU are all worse than us and many countries do not measure the rate in the same 'open and honest' way as us. For instance, France only include actual covid deaths and do not use our 28 day criteria, so our figures are overinflated to our political detriment.
By the end of this crisis we may ironically have the best figures, mainly due to our fantastic rollout and vaccine acceptance and the EU's glacial rollout and vaccine denigration and denial.
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LOL.... and now it is two 🤗
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Forest don't concede many goals so this really is a good start. As they don't score many either it is even better.... 🤗
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13 minutes ago, Fuzzar said:He doesn't have dodgy tackle, he's just had another baby.
I know.... I was just saying that if his wife was not having a baby he would probably be out anyway.
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I had a feeling that Buendia would be out today anyway as he took quite a hammering with dodgy tackles against Wednesday.
It will do him good to have a rest.
The Positive Brexit Thread
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This is all part of a disingenuous EU import ban on our products, hence we should just go to WTO and bin all agreements and ban their products also, as the EU is not acting in good faith at all, as emphasized by their bitter vaccine shenanigans.
The EU are desperate as their numerous horrendous failings are coming to the fore, for the whole world and their own citizens to see, and as with all bullies they cannot handle it, and are in meltdown. Pass the popcorn as it is wonderful to watch the EU reminding us why we just had to leave!! 😂