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If you buy South Stand Area K, Row Y 117 & 119 then you'll have a pretty good view, and if you ask the person in seat 118 nicely then you may get to sit with your better half!!

Gibbins is a good spot. Minus the tache & perm he looks very different! Davids is another thumbs up. And I'm now certain that is Fleeting next to him.

Thanks for the contribution. The pic is from 1976/77 and so it can't be Livermore (though it does look like him).

The trouble is that development from ages 13-20 is so hit-and-miss, and anyone making bold predictions is likely to come unstuck! Man Utd - who probably have the best Youth>First Team pathway in British football - famously invested tens of thousands of pounds in our Kalam Mooniaruck, and his ceiling ended up being the Isthmian League [note also that KM got an Eng U20 cap, thus demonstrating that selection for representative sides is often based on Who You Play for rather than How You Play] Chris Sutton was released by NCFC at, I believe, age 14, but his Dad pushed his physical development and, a couple of years later, NCFC wanted him back. Max Aarons was just Mr Reliable (a la Lewis Blois) before his break-through, while our splashy purchases of Daniel Adshead & Aidan Fitzpatrick (both already playing first-team football) came to naught. Toffolo is proving that he had the potential, but how long do you keep a player waiting for his chance? (look at the Lambert side, filled with players from Big Clubs' who had to take a step down in order to develop) Personally, I find it disappointing that the 9-man subs' bench doesn't see more of our prospects on it, but I do understand that the gap between youth and men's football is now much greater than it was. And finally, while a manager is feeling the heat (and many fans are making unrealistic demands for success) the blooding of youngsters will hardly be a priority. In short, who knows?

A new challenge for the Oldies. A few on this photo haven’t been identified, so can anyone help fill any gaps? Back: Grapes / Sullivan / Boyer / Steele / Machin / Stringer / ? / ? / Goble? / Davies? / Evans / ? / Suggett Third: Ryan / Peters / Forbes / Jones / BondK / Hansbury / Keelan / ? / ? / Fleeting? / Busby / Powell / ? / Medwin? Second: Sainty / Brown / Westwood / Burrell? / Fish G / Hanley / South / Watling / ? / ? / ? / BondJ / Prodger? Front : ? / Downs? / Lythgoe? / ? / Mendham / ? / Symonds? / ? Davids, Dunthorne & Proudlove should be on here, while I’m certain that MacDougall & McGuire aren’t. Suggestions welcomed!

That photo was not taken at Carrow Rd (the old Main Stand did not have pillars and there was no roofed structure at the River End until 1979). Likely taken at either Newport or Shrewsbury Edit: And the lineup is from 1953/54 (Ron Hansell didn't make his first-team debut until Nov 1953) Never trust sellers of cheap repro images on ebay!

That would be an entirely foolish assumption to make.

A small part of the interior is, yes. But new carpets & a lick of gloss paint is very different to replacement of the whole structure!

Why does the River End (built 1979 and only used 70 days p.a.) need "replacing" while my house (built one hundred years earlier and used 320+ days p.a) only require regular maintenance? Exactly how much luxury should we be giving fans for their 30 quid? Heated floors? heated seats? wider seats? padded seats? more legroom? lifts to all levels? cupholders on every seat? tv screens at every seat?

The recent article on Matos in The Athletic is interesting. Matos was going on trial to PL clubs in March. Does that strike you as someone who was committed to NCFC? Matos was a boyhood Chelsea fan. Again, that was always likely to sway his decision-making. He was not exactly tearing it up for us last season [just 7 starts for the U23s, zero gls & two assists], and beyond U15 level he had been ignored by the England set-up. He's made a couple of appearances for a Chelsea side decimated by injury & struggling in mid-table, so he's not exactly Frank Lampard!

Luton's project cost less than £10m while Norwich's could be £80m It's like wondering why putting in a loft extension is more expensive & difficult than replacing your garden shed!

The civil interaction is appreciated! but I still don't think the numbers add up (in particular the lack of demand for Corporate & Hospitality seats) I think of it this way; twice a year, when family visit, I could do with a bigger dining room & an extra bedroom. But have I considered building a new 2-storey extension? No, partly because I can't afford it (and it would outprice my house for the street) but also because, in reality, I don't need it. There is no doubt that Attanasio has access to cheap money, but I doubt that spending £80m on infrastructure is one of his priorities.

The new Spurs stadium is being paid for by local property development (a bit like Arsenal & the Emirates) THFC have 1,000+ residential units planned near the ground, plus a 180-room hotel & 49-apartment tower block at the old Away end. And, unlike NCFC, Spurs regularly make operating profits (£97m & £112m in last two seasons) & are very unlikely to get relegated. Not sure the finances of the two clubs can be meaningfully compared!

i fear your figures are overly optimistic. All NCFC ticket income last season was £10m, and so I really don't see how increasing capacity by 26% (7,000 seats) will increase ticket income by 40% (£4m). Or will you be hiking ticket prices? There is no shortage of Corp hospitality at CR but, judging by the availability of most home games this season, there is certainly a shortage of customers willing to pay for it! Naming rights of £1m p.a? i would be amazed if Jarrold or Regency paid anywhere near that.

1. So I'm wrong because we don't know the figures, yet your fag-packet calculations are correct? Well, that's a convincing rebuttal! It is likely that many of the new seats would be occupied by concessions rather than high-fliers. The demand for executive seats is reflected in the current (wide) availability. 2. I very much doubt that concerts at NCFC are limited due to stadium size. Licensing, pitch-wear, hotel-availability & decent transport links are all likely to be much bigger factors. As for luxury, the middle-aged hamper & champers set will flock to open fields to watch Tom Jones & the like (not to mention Glasto & Latitude) so not sure that strengthens the business case. 3. When Attanasio sells NCFC do you think he will get a better price if a) the club are in the PL with a 27k stadium or b) if the club are in the Champs with a 35k stadium? And 4. How much is Attanasio likely to spend on the upcoming $850m refurb of the Brewers stadium in Milwaukee? Is it a) most b) half c) less than 15%. [If you don't know the answer then you don't appreciate how most successful businessmen operate]

It is always very easy spending someone else's money. Fans spend two hours per fortnight at their home football ground, and yet some demand ever-increasing levels of comfort & facilities. Football clubs in UK do not have the spare cash to upgrade stands every generation. Yet here we are, with regular complaints about the River End & Main Stand, and expectation that the Magic Dollar Tree will provide.

This image was taken on 6.8.1975 and used in the local chipwrap on the following day. Case closef

I don't think so. Borrowing £80m over 25 yrs needs annual repayments of £5.3m. Prioritising facilities over squad investment; didn't work out so well for R T Chase, did it?

The Anfield Rd redevelopment at Liverpool is costing £80-£90m and there is no evidence to show that adding a second tier to our Main Stand would not be similar. Thanks to the hordes of football tourists & Executive clients - all paying upwards of £150 for a ticket + chicken-dinner at Anfield - LFC are generating an additional £10m per season in matchday income. If NCFC added 7,000 new seats matchday income for the season would rise by less than £3m. The sums do not add up, which is why McNally/Moxey/Webber/Ward have not taken the plunge. If the main driver for ground expansion is getting kids in, then I can't see it happening. But if the main driver is economic, then the club can do that by increasing ticket prices.

1) Train strikes do not happen every year. 2) The thread is about NCFC's away following. Delia no longer being in control will have precisely zero effect on away gates of other clubs. My home & away attendance this season has been affected by travel difficulties. Your wish to only consider your point of view does not change this fact.

If you are not considering the impact of train strikes / engineering works (and other travel difficulties) then, you too, are ignoring facts.

You need to be very careful if you think legacy fans should be replaced with kids. The natural cycle of life dictates that the 16-30 age range have less cash, are more inclined to move away from Norfolk (university, job, romance) and are more likely to replace football with another interest (partner\children). I'll bet that the 350 that travelled to Swansea was made up mostly of legacy fans.

Maybe some fans are put off going to games because of the poor atmosphere? I know that is a factor for me now. Some fans go to games (especially away) with the specific intent of moaning about anything & everything - players, tactics, subs, Wagner, Delia. And if you end up near any of these then a poor day out is made even worse. Attending & moaning all game is not, IMO, supporting the team. Leave your preconceived opinions at home (or the pub).

Andy Rhodes was that other GK signed On Loan. Father of Jordan. Darren Crowfoot - a GK from the A team - was often in the squad as Sub GK after Gunn's injury.

Rooney was just 9 years old when Simon Tracey played for NCFC