TeemuVanBasten

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A bit rich to start claiming other posters didn't understand the OP before floating the absurd proposition that £22m would be enough to purchase the club.

I'm looking forward to hearing it. Cantwell probably won't be shy with his side of the story either.

Webber outed Howson as a tool downer too didn't he?

Okey-doke, you are the tantrum throwing master so I'll take that on board.

Pugin created a thread to tell the whole forum that Cantwell had a relative on the end of life pathway, so literally about to die, the phrase was in the thread title. Lots of people pointed out that this was deeply personal and shouldn't have been shared. That thread at some point was deleted (should have been deleted immediately, along with Pugin's account). Only... people are still saying that Cantwell has a dying relative four months later. That's not how end of life pathways work, they usually last 2-3 days. My mention of it on this thread wasn't actually a pop at Pugin, enough people pointed out that he was being deeply inappropriate at the time, but at those who are still sharing the dying relative rumour now, I'm just pointing out that pathways don't last four months. But seeing as Pugin wanted to take the opportunity to attack me... I just wanted to remind him that him he's the rumour starter. Every time you hear or read something about Cantwell's sick relative, that has originated from Pugin. Perhaps that is why he's posting on here at 4am instead of sleeping.

They just down tools now, a formal transfer request means waiving any outstanding loyalty bonuses.

No I think norfolkngood should be forgiven for touting the sick relative line, he's only sharing the rumour that Pugin started on the Pink'un four months ago.

Two things: 1). Its a charity donation, I do that sporadically anyway. Admittedly usually when my wife gives me a heavy nudge around christmas time. I can suck that up, its a great cause. 2). Its actually £20,000,000+, which means I'm not going to be the one stumping up the £50.

It definitely happened with my grandad when the Liverpool care pathway was still a thing, I distinctly remember a nurse telling me they were withdrawing fluids.

Thanks Chris, I know very little about medicine or the NHS, but I'm glad that the Liverpool Care Pathway was abolished as when my grandad was put on it... it sort of felt like he'd just had his life ended a bit early to save the state some morphine money and free up a bed, didn't sit right with me at all and I'll never really forget that. I don't know exactly how long he'd have clung onto life had he not been put on it, but even if it were just a few weeks, you still end up feeling like its some precious time that has been stolen from you. Although I've just read that it was abolished because a lot of NHS professionals misunderstood or misinterpreted it, and were withdrawing hydration and nutrition, which is precisely what at the time I was under the impression they'd done with my granddad - felt a bit like a state murder at the time. What is the equivalent pathway called now?

Talk about wanting to create drama and being OTT. I mean, completely fine with me... Pugin, what actually happened to your thread where you told the whole forum that Cantwell had a relative dying and on what you called 'the end of life pathway', was that removed by moderators because it was private information that was told in confidence and shouldn't be shared publicly on the internet? Did you request that it was removed or a member of the Cantwell family? Was it removed because it was disgraceful and had the capacity to cause deep and unnecessary distress? Or perhaps it actually did cause deep and unnecessary distress to the Cantwell's? Lets not forget that it was you who told the 13000 members of this forum something deeply personal about Cantwell and his family, that he himself had not shared, and that you are the entire reason this dying relative rumour has been flying around on here. on twitter and facebook, and in pubs and on the concourse at Carrow Road for the three or four months that have followed, you created that speculation that keeps being bandied about on here, yes you, every post on this forum about Cantwell's allegedly sick relative, including the ones on this thread, originates from a post made by you, and then have the cheek to try and turn that on to me! Seriously! F*ck off you complete and utter c*nt! Your thread was a complete disgrace, the repercussions are still being felt, tell me this... is it even true or did you just make it up? Either way, should you even still be on here after that? Lets give you the benefit of the doubt and say it was true, how can you justify sharing something so private which you said yourself was shared in confidence? How can you even bring yourself to log in after such a severe and public betrayal of trust? Divulging such a sensitive secret at such a difficult time for all those concerned to such a large public audience? How can you even sleep at night knowing this? Or was your 4am post on this thread evidence that, actually, you don't?

And I hope that Cantwell isn't going through problems associated with that grief, but we're getting contradictory second hand information about these sick relatives, as I illustrated by Pugin telling us months ago that a relative was on the Liverpool care pathway, then having a poster on here claiming he has a sick relative. I'd lean towards believing Pugin there I think, rather than whoever this latest plonker is. But he's said himself that he's not suffering from any mental health problems, and if he's not in a good enough place to train and play properly for us then that rules out him leaving the club in this window doesn't it? I mean he's being linked to Liverpool because they need a player to cover for Mane and Salah who are off to AFCON, and he's being linked to Newcastle as they attempt the great escape, and linked to Leicester who need to continue their good form to get into Europe again this season. None of them are buying an unfit player who they need to show months of patience to, and as far as I'm concerned if he passes a medical and signs for any of those... he's fit and his family issues are being massively overstated. Surely he just pulled out of this FA Cup game because he doesn't want to get a knock or twinge which would jeopardise a new four year deal somewhere?

We had one poster claim about 4 months ago that Cantwell had a relative on the Liverpool care pathway, I think it was Pugin. That is essentially the slow withdrawal of water and sustinence until somebody dies, effectively of dehydration. I've had relatives on that, not nice, but 4 months would be a world record i should think. For my close relative it was a few days. I don't know whether he has other sick relatives, but millions have lost people in this pandemic, lost 3 relatives myself of covid... and a cousin last month to heroin... horrible but I've had to get on with life and work. I've been told that the club offered him the best contract they could which would have put him up there with the top three highest earners and he rejected it. That is his right but any long distance move away from family in Norfolk would surely quash the rumours of a family crisis?

Is PurpleCanary going to give them props?

I think they should have gone together. They were a partnership, and they failed. One threw the other under the bus.

I mean I'm not sure that is particularly clear, did Farke at any stage say "you know what Stu, I'm not sure Tsoliz is needed this season when we need a defensive midfielder", and Sargent was clearly a player in the Farke mold. Farke is an aspiring sporting director isn't he, no pushback at all would be a Farke failure, as would ratification of any of Webber's ideas? I don't think level of culpability is clear at all, but I think we all know that it doesn't sit at 100% with a specific individual.

I think we should start asking questions of Webber rather than the individual players, this is now the second time he's brought in a load of turd post-promotion, would any of these players look out of place at Bristol City or Swansea? He's brought in mid-table Championship quality with a £56m spend.

I'd start ignoring your source if I were you, because he'll be making you silly imminently. So if Cantwell moves 250 miles away to Newcastle, and then Webber comes out and informs the fans that Cantwell had downed tools to force a move as his contract demands broke our wage structure, are you going to hold your hands up and admit that you've been spouting nonsense, or are you going to go dead quiet and disappear? I know what my money is on.

There are people on here who seriously think we can coach him into having a good first touch and give him the finishing ability of Gary Hooper. If he hasn't picked that up in the first 16 years of kicking a football around then no chance he'll learn it in the next few. Either a kid has it or they don't, to sign Hugill and then replace him with Sideshow bob... should be a resigning issue for Webber.

I really want Cambridge United in the next round, Wessiunion

No, you are making my point perfectly. You are saying that he lacks fitness, I'm saying that there is no reason why he should be lacking fitness, he's had months now, and if you believe that he currently has a knock then I've got a bridge to sell you. Of course, Dean Smith ahead of his first game in charge, which Cantwell started, said that Cantwell's fitness was fine, that he'd been put through all the tests and his numbers were fine, I will listen to our sports science department and manager over you, if that is ok.

Well I heard that his wage demands would require us to far exceed our current maximum wage, by more than 50%, and that he's been trying to force a move to earn what he feels he deserves, fell out with Farke because of that in the summer, and now hasn't been fully committed under Dean Smith because he doesn't want to get injured before the January window. Clearly our sources are different. I'll trust mine over yours to be honest, and if he moves hundreds of miles to Newcastle we'll know the serious family issues line is a complete load of nonsense won't we.

Funny because the club are claiming he has a knock. I should be ashamed of myself because you've made something up? If these problems are so serious he'd want to stay near his family in Norfolk then I presume, and won't be signing for a team in the North of the country? You joker.

Nah he'll find somebody to blame, anybody but him.