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  1. Posted

    Yes, I did say that about Neil Doncaster and I stand by that comment as would anyone with any general business insight who saw with clear eyes what was going on at the Club.As for "go for it".Yes, you are a liar.Produce as many former SCG members as you like. I''ll produce more who remember the real story (and your general ar$elicking after each meeting "there''s someone posting under my pseudonym on the WOTB board, Joe, but I promise it''s not me...simper simper" - heard that one on the way out of one meeting where I, unlike you, couldn''t be bothered to hang around and hang on) and the real emails that describe the real story you have tried to ambush.You''re a liar, John Tilson.

  2. Posted

    John, my ''involvement'' with this group was never discussed at any full SCG meeting I was ever at - and I went to all of them.You are lying.Take me to court and prove you''re right if you like but the only ''involvement'' I have ever had is with what was indicated to me would be a very different group and well after the SCG had been disbanded - I initially declined (see that big word: DECLINED) but was assured it was nothing like the old pricing group and was more all-encompassing. "Looking for ways to improve revenue against expenditure" which is no bad thing for this Club as far as I''m concerned.I''ve got the emails to prove it.Have you?Now apologise and admit that you are wrong or one of us is going to be had up for libel (and I''ve got no previous convictions guv!)You are lying, John.Now prove me wrong or apologise because I''m really tired of you now.

  3. Posted

    I''d like to think that anyone with any semblance of sanity would read the retorts to each of my posts on here and come up with exactly the same conclusions, Shack.Suddenly I''M operating a secret society!I''M twisting words!In fact I''ve been abused on this forum more than anyone (excluding Banana from what I''ve seen in the last 2 days) for simply having an opinion and stating the truth rather than dealing in fairy tales and b*llshit.What anyone says about me is up to them. I know what I''ve done and what I''ve not done and I sleep soundly at night.Everyone else - make your own minds up after reading the slander and jibes pointed at someone who hadn''t even looked at this board for months and decide "do they represent me?"If ''they'' do then I''m more sorry for the state of the fanbase of this Club than I ever have been.

  4. Posted

    Wrong again, John.Read my lips (or actually I''d rather you read my post) and you''ll find that what I actually agreed to was the group that "...would not be anything like the old SCG pricing

    group and would, in fact, encompass wider issues and supporter relations

    with a far greater degree of transparency".Get it?That''s your lot, mate. I''d rather just be a fan than continually argue with the likes of you.For the others, everyone on the SCG had full lists of who was on which group and that includes Mr Tilson. Ask him to tell you what the make up of these (now over 2 season old) groups was cos the way I see it he''s always been very quiet about his participation - and participation it was. For my part I would prefer to leave it to the individuals involved to "out" themselves. I''ve always told you where I stood and always told you where I sat in case anyone wanted me to raise anything on their behalf. That''s far more than most did, but it''s never enough for some. Geez!Always remember that John Tilson, the Chairman of NCISA, was on the SCG. Was it him who asked Neil Doncaster to look him in the eye and tell him that he was doing the best for this Club? Or (during the meetings) questioned the secrecy surrounding parts of how the SCG operated? No. But he missed those meetings...Maybe a look in the mirror is the order of the day for NCISA. Why and how, I ask, is it that after so many years of turmoil and with such a nominal joining fee NCISA has a couple of hundred members out of a fanbase including 20,550 season ticket holders and many times that in terms of fans? Seriously guys and gals, look at the image you project. How you interact with anyone outside your group of luvvies. How you kowtow to get someone/anyone to appear at the AGM and then proffer the snidey comments online when you know they won''t lower themselves to answer. How any proposal to make serious changes to the NCISA board are met - or brushed aside as was, I believe, the case last Autumn. Look at yourselves and ask - are we a pressure group fighting for fans or are we a&re-lickers when the time is right and we want to phone Joe Ferrari/Mr McNally for a little chat?I know what I think.And I think you''ve been seen through by many, many fans.And many more are just happy that this Club, our Club, is moving forwards.

  5. Posted

    I''m not interested in debating something with you, John, that you constantly change the goalposts on.First you said you were at the meeting when I was asked and agreed to join the Pricing Working Group - then suddenly I was invited by email which you obviously have access to. That email conversation actually contained my serious reservations about joining and I only agreed after I had been assured it would not be anything like the old SCG pricing group and would, in fact, encompass wider issues and supporter relations with a far greater degree of transparency.I think everyone is pretty clear on how that plan eventually worked out.Additionally making sad jibes about my attitude to the working groups I was on is, even for you, rather childish. The whole point of putting the titles of the working groups in inverted commas and following them with my comments was to indicate that the titles themselves were funny - or I found them so anyway, especially given how things worked out.I never go into anything, work or play, without the intention of giving of my all.You have clearly demonstrated why I find it impossible to post on here or any other forum anymore. Petty digs and misinterpretation along with weird suppositions, fairy stories and "FACTS!!!!!!" dished out consistently really do make it impossible for me to offer any opinion or even be a little light-hearted.

  6. Posted

    As a couple of people have asked me to respond to this thread I would like to confirm that I was NEVER on the pricing/season ticket working group.Somewhere in my old files I have a list of the last people who were on it but I NEVER was.I was on ''Image & Identity'' (always made me laugh!) and ''Communications'' (equally and ironically hilarious!). Both these groups met very infrequently and trying desperately to recall such incidental matters from over 3 years ago I think I attended 3 or 4 meetings across both those groups in the time I was on the SCG.I hope this clears up any confusion or misapprehensions anyone may have.

  8. Posted

    [quote user="Mello Yello"]

    The support was like a ''Cricket Crowd'' today (without a barmy army to boost the atmosphere)......I was apprehensive and on edge, because we didn''t take our chances, the post got the better of us and the squad looked fatigued.

    But in an earlier post today, I did say that I would be satisfied with a 1-0 victory. I''m satisfied, (especially like many others after the final whistle) and we''re 9 points clear of Swindon.

    Everyone bar Nelson (MOTM in my opinon) seemed a little out of sorts....

    MK Dons on Saturday....we need to raise our game for that one.

    [/quote]What he said ^...

  12. Posted

    [quote user="Webbo118"][quote user="LQ"][quote user="Webbo118"]

    [quote user="Punting Canary"]Simple law of economics.  If you are selling out every week and could sell more tickets on top, in some cases many more, then the ticket prices aren''t high enough.  I know having spoken to someone at the club no so long back that the thing McNally was amazed at was that ticket prices were not higher given that we are selling out every week.  Its not that he is trying to rip people off but that he is trying to run a business and the main revenue stream comes through the turnstiles.  Its a fine line between alienating supporters but keeping the business afloat.  The Turners were keen to make the business purely self sufficient but that wasn''t acceptable hence their departure.  They key is knowing where your elasticity of demand (or breaking point) is if the team aren''t performing well.  If the team isn''t performing well its better to have a fuller stadium who are buying the add on''s (pies, drinks etc) than not, but it does not make business sense for the ground to be selling out with ease as it is this year.  For what its worth I think we now have two very level headed men running the show on and off the pitch and I think the price rise is right.  Tickets for Spurs and Chelsea nowadays are about 80 quid!![/quote]

    And Bolton and Wigan are currently selling half season tickets for £151 and £149 (less than £17 per game and two divisions higher)

     

    [/quote]And both are currently recouping around £68.4million p.a. more from their general league revenue than we are.Do the math!

    [/quote]

    And how much are Spurs and Chelsea recouping from their general league revenue? The point I was making was using Spurs and Chelsea charging £80 per game as a comparison with us is idiotic and serves no useful purpose at all.

    [/quote]Sorry - that''s the point I thought you were making and I was reiterating it.There can be no comparison. To do so would be to say "so if them''s the ticket prices elsewhere will you buy a ST for A.N.Other low to middling prem side to watch their football?"Of course not. From Arsenal to Yeovil and all in between we pay our money for our team. What league we''re in or how we''re faring means nothing. If seats are at a premium and not readily available you can put pretty much any number after the pound symbol you like!

  13. Posted

    [quote user="Webbo118"]

    [quote user="Punting Canary"]Simple law of economics.  If you are selling out every week and could sell more tickets on top, in some cases many more, then the ticket prices aren''t high enough.  I know having spoken to someone at the club no so long back that the thing McNally was amazed at was that ticket prices were not higher given that we are selling out every week.  Its not that he is trying to rip people off but that he is trying to run a business and the main revenue stream comes through the turnstiles.  Its a fine line between alienating supporters but keeping the business afloat.  The Turners were keen to make the business purely self sufficient but that wasn''t acceptable hence their departure.  They key is knowing where your elasticity of demand (or breaking point) is if the team aren''t performing well.  If the team isn''t performing well its better to have a fuller stadium who are buying the add on''s (pies, drinks etc) than not, but it does not make business sense for the ground to be selling out with ease as it is this year.  For what its worth I think we now have two very level headed men running the show on and off the pitch and I think the price rise is right.  Tickets for Spurs and Chelsea nowadays are about 80 quid!![/quote]

    And Bolton and Wigan are currently selling half season tickets for £151 and £149 (less than £17 per game and two divisions higher)

     

    [/quote]And both are currently recouping around £68.4million p.a. more from their general league revenue than we are.Do the math!

  14. Posted

    [quote user="vos"]Punting Canary is one of the few realistic comments on this thread. We are massively in debt, along with many other Clubs, and we have got to balance income with expenditure. The increases will bring in about £500,000 but on current figs it still leaves us around £2 million short on income. What are they going to do about it !!!

    The main reasoning of selling tickets now is to get money in to keep us afloat. To offer interest free loans is crazy in the current financial circumstances. Its very good of the directors to limit increases coupled with generous offers BUT we desperately need some more money !!!

    I will readily admit there is no easy answer but as an OAP I usually pay £9 per match, and although slightly biased, we are currently far more entertaining than most in the premiership. I would quite happily pay £15 which still compares well with other entertainment etc, but obviously everyone''s finances are different.[/quote]Hey Vos,Just like the tax man, I doubt there''s anything stopping you paying more if you want to!;~)

  15. Posted

    [quote user="dpit"]

    When we went down, some people ventured to whisper that maybe, just maybe, relegation followed by a storming season in Div One might be just what the Club needed. They were of course howled into silence by the outraged masses. How many of you are now willing to eat a slice of the humble stuff and admit you may have been wrong?

    [/quote]I said it...Lots...I don''t come on here very often anymore...I wonder why![:S]

  18. Posted

    As a guilty party to the blog experience (although not for a while now as I am reminded often!) I guess the reason I wrote mine was that I found it relaxed my brain when I was having ''block'' moments with the real work I should have been doing!I can''t speak for everyone obviously but the feedback I got basically said that many of the people who read them weren''t visitors to any forums at all, they just found them on the site or were emailed links by friends. Does it matter?I''m also not sure what constitutes "so few reads". Can anyone quantify this? Most of mine over the last couple of years hit between 300 and 500. I have no idea if that''s "few" or middlish or many and I don''t really mind. I wrote it; some people read it; some people didn''t; no-one got paid; no-one died; it''s just for fun as far as I''m concerned and I''m unsure as to why it''s an issue for anyone.If you don''t like it, don''t read it, surely? 

  23. Posted

    Surely the issue here is that for a columnist (who, as someone quite rightly alluded to above, should be controversial) he wasn''t controversial at all - much like Richard Balls who went before him.Both effectively played to the perceived crowd - or at least the more vocal of the (particularly) online support. And that''s very easy to do. Dare to disagree or even throw a few facts in the direction of Fan''s Eye on here and you''d receive a stern rebuke via PM. Tut tut!However, it does seem odd that although he could cause an online avalanche of "great column mate" type responses on here there were rarely any letters in the EDP relating to his articles. A quick ask around of fans I know who get the EDP regularly this morning has resulted in quizzical responses when I mooted the question "so, will you miss Adam Aiken''s Fan''s Eye?" A couple of people even had the temerity to say "who?"

  25. Posted

    What is so wrong about all this is that stewards and police were put in this position in the first place. The ignorant violence was always going to happen and for christ sake what idiot allowed it to go ahead at that time in the evening? Look at the reaction we get from the police and clubs when we ask for a decent time for our derby (obviously not an issue this year!)

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