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  1. Excellent performance today. Very pleased with that. We were resolute in defence and the lads played with their hearts on their sleeves. Can''t ask for any more than that.
    I enjoy watching Norwich far more when Snodgrass isn''t in the team. Redmond''s end product wasn''t great but he gave us a couple of clear cut openings with his pace and positivity. Thought Pilks had a very good game too.
    Looking forward to getting Howson back, as him alongside Tettey and Fer is by far our best central midfield trio. He''s been a big miss for us. It''s no coincidence that our poor run of form has come since his injury.

  2. [quote user="Jimmy Smith"]Ah, you saw the same graphic as me i guess. So he''s on as much as Rooney wants, makes a bit more sense now!

    I''m not in any way an expert, i''m just observant that all the teams in the league have a chance at the big time.

    I guess with all the foreigners and popularity round the world it would be hard to mimic the NFL system.[/quote]
    I had a similar discussion in a forum on a manager game I play about what could and couldn''t be applied across, and hypothetically how I would implement changes to adapt the system to mimic the NFL setup.
    http://www.virtualmanager.com/forums/topics/1061754-the-state-of-football-today
    My club on there is Grant Holts Moustache.

  3. [quote user="Morisons Prozac"]But the seahawks QB is still on his rookie contract so that''s like the equivalent of Josh Murphy earning half a million a year. When this contract runs out Williams (the QB) will earn about the same as Manning.[/quote]
    Wilson is the QB. He won''t earn the same money as Manning. He''ll get a 5 or 6 year deal worth around $10-12 mill per year. Manning is the best QB in history, no way Wilson gets a comparable deal, unless he wins the next two superbowls too!

  4. [quote user="Jimmy Smith"]Which way do you go with then? I can see why both don''t work. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer our way, meaning grass roots and lower leagues badly suffer while the premier league and particular the top 6 or so teams thrive but on the other hand. It''d seem daft for Ronaldo and co to have to go to Wigan for the season because they finished bottom. It''d really annoy me if I was in Ronaldo''s boots, great for Wigan though!

    I saw that Peyton Manning (the quarterback) gets like a million a week too! Makes footballers look like paupers! Conversely, the winning quarterback is on like half a million a year, about what an average championship player would get.[/quote]
    I''m quite into NFL, and have long championed their system over ours. You seem to have a few key misnomers in your ideas of how their system works.
    Firstly, Players come to the NFL through the draft process (99.9% of the time). This is where the players who have been playing at college (university) put themselves forth for selection to the NFL. There are seven "rounds" of selection, with each of the 32 teams having one pick per round, on a reverse order rotation, starting with the poorest team, and the best team picks number 32 in all 7 rounds. These picks can be traded either packaged together for higher picks (Eg Early 3rd round and 2nd round in exchange for a late first round pick) or exchanged for players already in the league.
    The players are contracted to the team that picks them for 4 seasons. They can be traded before that, but they have no real power to walk away. The pay scale for this contract is pretty much fixed, which is why Russell Wilson earns so little compared to the veteran Peyton Manning. The best players are not divided up and sent to the worst teams, the only benefit the bad teams get is picking higher in the draft so getting better youngsters, they do not get any veteran stars unless they offer them a more attractive contract. So yes, you do get good (young) players on bad teams, but that is why the league is so competitive, and normally, a team who picks first in the draft will have a couple of key building blocks so you won''t find them being as bad again the next year. The initial contract is 4 years, but then the player is free to do what they like and go to the highest bidder. This means that as they are moving into their prime at 26/27, they have a free market for their services. So your Ronaldo/Wigan analogy is fine, but in the NFL there aren''t really unfashionable clubs in the same way due to the wider equality of the league (except Cleveland, nobody wants to live in Cleveland apparently!) and Ronaldo in his prime would be free to go elsewhere.
    Due to having a fully enforced salary cap, and minimum salary floor, NFL teams can''t load up on good players anyway, like Man City or Barca, for every star they sign, there is a compromise somewhere else as they would not be able to afford the wages, and remain under the cap. That essentially means that good players are distributed pretty evenly, and more focus is put on to tactics.
    Not sure where you got Manning being on a million a week from, seeing as the salary cap is around $125 million, and that would be half the teams player budget for the year (for the 52 man squad + 7 man practice squad). NFL contracts are fully disclosed, Manning is on a 5 year $98 million dollar contract (not all of that money is guaranteed). That''s a maximum of $18mill per year on average (if he hits all the targets to get the bonus money). Which converts to around £12mill per year. Which is around about what Rooney is rumoured to be looking for. Considering Peyton Manning is the best player of all time, I don''t think that''s a silly amount comparitively.
    Hope that helps clarify things for you a little.

  5. [quote user="splutcho"]He probably has been, I''d rather the club kept disciplinary matters behind closed doors anyway.[/quote]
    Exactly. Why on Earth would they tell us what sanctions had been imposed? (At OP) If your boss at work punished you for a cock-up, I''m pretty sure you would think it terrible management, and highly unprofessional if he went to the local paper and publicised the sanctions. No different here.

  6. apologies for new thread but I see the other one got dragged down into nonsense so thought I''d start a fresh one.
    Fenerbahce have just confirmed officially that Yobo is joining until the end of the season on a loan.
    http://www.fenerbahce.org/detay.asp?ContentID=38289
    I expect our official announcement shortly seeing as they''ve already put it up.

  7. His agent was in Istanbul for the last few days trying to tie up a deal with Galatasaray. Can''t see him turning down the chance to live in one of the most vibrant cities in the world, play for Mancini, in the champions league alongside Drogba and his compatriot Wesley Sneijder to move to Norfolk tbh.
    http://www.turkish-football.com/news_read.php?id=5584

  8. Hi all, 
    I''m looking for the cartoon image from the merch surrounding the famous Norwich 4-1 Ipsh1t game. It had a picture of a moustachioed Grant Holt on it. I''ve searched every term I can think of on google. Does anyone know where it''s located, or have any merch they could take a photo of?
    Long story as to why I''m looking for it.

  9. [quote user="Howson is now"]I don''t care where Norwich supporters are from but I must say that some of the comments from people not from Norwich have astounded me. Things like "locals have it easy" and how much more commitment it takes to support from afar.

    So what if people that live in Norwich can get to the ground easier. Funny that, what with living in the same city.

    If people choose to support Norwich then that''s bl00dy brilliant, everybody''s welcome. Just don''t sit there and complain about how difficult it is having to travel and how it takes much more commitment than people from Norwich. That''s just as bad as people b!tching about people not from Norfolk supporting this fantastic club.[/quote]
    Nobody was complaining. Merely stating the counter point to "if your not local, you''re not a proper fan" when in fact it takes far more effort to support from afar. Not trying to say us exiles are better than locals, just pointing out what a load of nonsense was being spouted. Locals do have it easy, that''s not a judgement, just a statement of fact. As far as Im concerned, everyone is equal regardless of distance, except the "fans" that only turn up when we''re relatively successful.

  10. [quote user="Simple Jack"]And that''s the acid test. Can you, as a Norwich City supporter sing this ditty and be telling the truth?

    If the answer is no, I smell a whiff of hypocracy. Is your "support" any different from London-based Manyoo "fans".

    Norwich City always has and always will be a club solidly rooted in it''s local community. A LOCAL club for LOCAL PEOPLE, if you will.[/quote]
    Obvious troll is obvious. It''s all too easy for you LOCAL fans to pop along to Carrow Road and be home in time for tea. For me, making a trip to Carrow Road involves 400miles and a hotel stay, about £200 on top of the match tickets (which I buy at full rate, none of this discounted season ticket price due to the fact I can''t go to every game) 
    The comparison to Man U fans is nonsensical. How many Norwich fans from anywhere do you know that are supporting us for the glory?
    I was there making a 300 mile round trip to Exeter the week after the 7-1 drubbing at home to Col U. Were you?
    Being a fan from a far flung corner of the country requires far more commitment than it does for the locals to walk 10 minutes down to Carrow Road. When the only way for exiles to keep in touch with the game was on CanariesWorld, I was a teenager and would walk 4 miles home from being in town with my friends, to get home in time to listen to the radio commentary, and then walk all the way back again.
    Say what you like, but local people have it bloody easy. 
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