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    I think he's been drinking. Very passive aggressive and ranty. He wants an accountable MP that doesn't actually go to Parliament as the PM is de facto dictator ( parliament being that which he holds in contempt as an institution anyway for the actions of politicians 50 years ago). So he doesn't like or respect parliament. He doesn't want his MP to sit in parliament, but he's going to make damn sure the MP is accountable for the decisions they make in parliament when they're not in parliament. Either had a few too many, or employing the usual level of Brexiteer ingenuity and logic to the situation.
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    Woah woah woah - hyperbolic statements is the accusation before you level a "disproportionate level of hatred of this country". Back the f*** up and explain where on earth you got that from? Pot, kettle, black there I think. Bojo is acting like Stalin. It's what dictators do. Bojo is behaving like a dictator by removing parliament from the conversation. Bojo has spent ONE DAY as PM in parliament. He then had 5 weeks off. He then decided that he needed to prorogue parliament for another 5weeks, to allow himself time to prepare for a queen's speech, which definitely has nothing to do with trying to shut down democratic process over brexit. One day in parliament and 10 weeks of dictating without scrutiny or due process.
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    But you don't care that your MP has absolutely no power as BoJo sets precedent for holding parliament in utter contempt and imposing his will like Stalin?
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    Can't see any way that Corbyn gets near Downing Street Len. Also Ruth Davidson is a HUGE loss to the Tories. Without her 12 Scottish seats, they wouldn't be able to command a majority even with the support of the terrorists they bribed. Struggle to see anyone getting a clear majority. SNP will take 100% of scottish seats, bank on that. Labour will lose out hugely to Lib Dems, Greens and Tories/Brexwit party. Electoral alliances/pacts will have to be made between the entrenched parties in both camps. May be running close to the wire either way if GE is the outcome, which I think we can safely assume will happen sooner or later. This is a bit convoluted but when is the last possible date that article 50 could be revoked? If the Tories and Labour are entrenched in their positions regarding Corbyn not getting near number 10 then rather than toppling the government and risking that outcome, It may well be that just outright revocation of article 50 is their preferred consensus. Sure the Brexwits will be outraged, but crashing out without a deal is an abomination and the outrage would be no worse than we've seen today for BoJo's subversion of democracy and that could be mitigated by a new referendum. Nobody's preferred path but probably somewhere in the acceptable to all parties territory.
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    Bolton saved!

    https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2019/august/statement-on-behalf-of-david-rubin--partners-administrators-for-bolton-wanderers3/ Brilliant news.
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    Bolton saved!

    Allegedly a consortium has ideas about resurrecting them and asking EFL to reinstate them. No idea if true, or possible, but maybe not all hope is lost.
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    Abolish the monarchy is trending on twitter. Could be that Boris Johnson goes down as the man who hammered the nail in Brexit and the monarchy in the shortest lived PM reign ever. This might turn out alright after all.
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    Cute, however this is already more than 150% of that 608,000 in 12 hours. All petitions on the platform run for 6 months. So in 6 months, 600,000 people signed up for no deal. Is that supposed to be impressive? 400,000 more people have signed this in one day.
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    pound shop swindon
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    Hopefully it will spark a revolution and we can get rid of the perpetual spongers.
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    Oxford next Tuesday

    Tenner is steep for watching the U21s id have thought. Too far for me on a midweek anyhow
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    So you’re now accepting that leavers had no idea what they were voting for and that nobody intentionally voted for no deal. Good, now we’re getting somewhere.
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    No, a GE is automatic result of a no confidence vote if nobody can form a govt that passes a confidence vote within 14 days of the last govt collapsing.
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    Big business opportunity though, think of all the new homeless who will need tents after requiring a blood test and a prescription which costs them their entire life savings. You have to see things through the brexit perspective and find the silver linings amongst the clouds.
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    Over 100k now but this will clear millions in the next 48 hours anyway
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    Presumably an incredibly bitter and divisive GE which will essentially be a second referendum where we see Labour wiped out. As in business, you want to be at polar ends of price points, either bargain or premium, with brexit you want to be pro or against. Labour occupying neither polarity will see them haemorrhage votes to remain and leave parties.
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    I’m not sure you’d find many remainers who agreed with that one either. By that logic we should go bomb a middle eastern country to make amends for Iraq. Two wrongs don’t make anything right.
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    Add Grieve and Hanmond and we are pretty close to seeing the govt brought down. Having thought through this angle, I actually don’t think we’ll get to prorogation without that happening.
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    I suspect this might be a case of BoJo overplaying his hand. He’s used his nuclear option, and it may well be enough to push 5 or 6 Tories to bring down the house. Ken Clarke being a good example.
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    Actually, we have several facts. Nobody voted for no deal. It was widely discredited as even being an option until long after the referendum. Nobody voted for fuhrer BoJo, but they did vote for their mps who our dictator is sidelining as he tries to Putin his way to control. Regardless of the subject, the prorogation is an affront to democracy and very dangerous ground. Even if it were about something I agreed with, I would be vociferously rejecting the silencing of parliament. We’re not some African 3rd world country where this happens, and I’m baffled that the brextremists are celebrating this coup.
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    To be honest Jools, you’re muted as you well know so I rarely read anything you post.
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    But that can’t be assumed can it? There was no other viable option. It’s like saying you can either have a finger chopped off or your whole hand and then saying 100% of people want a finger cut off.
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    Oh look an anti democratic posh kid who likes brexit and makes silly comments to pretend this prorogation is anything other than cynical dictatorship politics. Wonder how many millions his daddy is making out of this.
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    It is a dumb argument. Labour were best chance of beating Tories. Anything else was a dead vote. Labour said they’d do brexit. To suggest that every labour voter voted on the basis of wanting brexit done is a nonsense and akin to saying anyone who goes to a Norwich game wants to take Delia to bed. It’s just an absurd perspective borne of desperately trying to convince yourself that people actually want brexit and it wouldn’t get crushed in a new referendum.
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    80% is a dumb argument as it was Hobson’s choice. If the debate had been honest and was between no deal or remain then I suspect the outcome would have been dramatically different. No deal was specifically ruled out time and again in the ref campaign. Even by our new Fuhrer. Say what you like but we both know there’s a reason that leavers are utterly terrified of another referendum. Nobody voted for this, nobody voted for Boris and nobody except the extremist nutters (and farage and his cronies who can make millions out of bankrupting the country) want a no deal
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