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king canary

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  1. I don't disagree about him not doing it single handedly but that is true of any football manager. Yet I don't remember anyone claiming that Worthy's promotion was all down to Doug Livermore or similar- it is an argument only ever used to play down what Lambert did. I guess where we'll never agree is that I think it isn't really possible to over appreciate a manager who takes your team from basically the bottom of League One to 12th in the Premier League in 3 seasons, thus giving us a chance to reset our finances and set us up for future success. I'm not unbiased in all of this. My judgement of a manager is based on a pretty simple question usually 'how much did I enjoy going to games under him?' And those three seasons were some of the most enjoyable I've had as a Norwich fan.
  2. He was appreciated when he was here and he didn't leave in the best way he could. However I think he's right he's under-appreciated since he left. You can barely mention him without someone claiming 'he was lucky to have Holt and Wes' or 'it was all Culverhouse really.'
  3. I think this point is often missed- the debt free, sustainable model is built on the two promotions he led us to. I've seen people saying he didn't leave a legacy here which is complete nonsense.
  4. Aarons has the highest ceiling of all our youngsters I think. It is a slight shame none of the younger lot are strikers as we could make some serious cash with that... Pukki is already 28 which puts a ceiling on any potential sale.
  5. Watching Man U v Fulham and it made me wonder- in the short term at least does Solskjær have the easiest job in football? The Man U squad is clearly talented enough to challenge for the title let alone the top 4 and all he needs to do is essentially not be Mourinho to get them back in form. Is it actually harder to manage a Cardiff than a Man U?
  6. I went to an 'immersive theatre' performance in London once by a company called Punchdrunk. Went full of skepticism but it completely blew me away and changed my perspective. I think it is important to be open to new things and experiences. However the stuff in the article sounds like a pile of ****.
  7. I'd suggest the fact you think there is any equivalency underlines my initial point to be honest.
  8. I think they could but the issue is losing the physicality and ball carrying ability of Steipermann.
  9. Lucky I buy these irony meters in bulk as they just keep exploding. Accusing someone else of not being capable of critcal thinking while trying to draw a non existent equivalency between the racism suffered by systematic racism that minorities in this country deal with every day and me saying 'old white guys are missing the point.' I always thought you were a reasonably smart poster Ian- you can do better than that nonsense.
  10. I was more 'offended' by the reaction of rather than just saying 'sorry, didn't realise' it was doubled down on and the person complaining being accused of being humourless. However KG has shown himself to be a big enough man to apologise so all good in my opinion. Also- of course it's relevent. Someone's own race is always relevant in a discussion like this as it informs your experience. I'm a 30 year old white man from (North) Suffolk. I've realised from conversations I've had with people from other backgrounds that I don't quote understand what it feels like to be called names that on the surface might seem harmless- so generally I defer to them even if I myself may not quite see the offense.
  11. But the thing is, while people dismiss ideas like racial privileged as pseudo-intellectual nonsense nothing changes. You have to recognise something exists before it can be changed. Stats like this come about because of ingrained, structural prejudiced and it needs to be challenged. Racism isn't just the national front beating up black people- it is the fact that CV's with an asian sounding name get interviewed far less than the exact CV with white sounding names. The 'old white guys' comment was a bit flippant but there is truth to it- white people don't get discriminated against in this country in any meaningful sense of the word. And older white people in this country grew up in a world where their worldview went unchallenged as they were by far and away the dominant majority and sometimes find it hard to see things from others worldview- perfectly encapsulated by the people on here saying how ridiculous that the word 'chinaman' can be seen as offensive despite someone from that background telling them it is to him. From my own experience it is often the old white guys who struggle to empathize with a differing world view because they haven't really had to before. That is their (our, I'm white if not old) privilege. Is white privilege the be all and end all? No, money, class, education and all sort of other factors come into play. But is it factor? For sure.
  12. Alternatively, don't click on the thread? Plenty of other NCFC related stuff you can read.
  13. Ahh I was trying to stay out of this thread but... Nobody is discriminating against old white guys are they? They do pretty well for themselves in general. The world is pretty much run by old white guys. To say men or white people in general have a certain privileged and advantage within Western societies isn't bigoted. The fact you dismiss ideas like privilege as 'psuedo-intellectual BS' just adds to the sense that you don't get it. Then we have folks such as NN above saying 'I wasn't offended' as if it is remotely relevant whether white people are offended by terms for people of other races, which is the cherry on the 'not getting it' cake. I don't think anyone on this thread is actually a racist (we've had our fair share on this forum at times though) but I think some people are so unwilling to consider that it actually isn't all about you. Sometimes it helps to listen to folks like Bethnal who have faced actual and real discrimination on the basis of their skin colour, rather the immediately shout 'PC police' at the top of your voice.
  14. Aarons must be close to an U21's call up which will only help to push his value up.
  15. He's been excellent- you could always see his ability even when he struggled but he's now got the pace of the league.
  16. I'd argue he's no worse than our own Chris Sutton.
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