king canary

Exactly. This isn't some 'woke lefties getting offended' stuff, it indicates a wider cultural problem in how people view young black men. From a Webber perspective it also indicates a continued issue when it comes to dealing with the media. At this point he's either to stupid to realise the issue is with him or he's too stubborn to accept the issue and change. Either way it's been a problem he's had even when things were going well here and it's going to cost him career opportunities.

I like you @hogesar but if I had to put my house on who'd be the first person on here offering defence of Webber I'd have put it on you. You're forever giving him a benefit of the doubt he hasn't remotely earned.

Just to note we've now got Max Aaron's and Jamal Lewis's mother's in the replied to this tweet understandably somewhat upset with Webber's depictions of their sons. Wonder how long before he's having to walk these back.

Yes, I wonder if those who argued the opposite will hold their hands up. Feels unlikely.

The man is clearly completely brain dead when it comes to being interviewed. Singling out 5 black players by name and saying they'd have been in jail is just tone deaf in the extreme. I don't believe Webber is a racist but Christ the man isn't half as smart as he seems to think he is.

Even the snipping tool! It's free! Won't ever top the politician who had their team print out a tweet so they could take a photo of it to post back to social media though.

You're probably better off casting your net a bit wider than a 5live phone in before generalising. Look at discussions about it on twitter or similar- plenty of women of WASPI age getting annoyed at their peers inability to take responsibility for their own financial futures and some talking about donating any compensation they may end up receiving to charity as they neither deserve nor want it.

Really? I've seen plenty.

Partygate absolutely killed him off as a political force as it resonates strongly with the kind of people who usually vote Conservative Just show your average pensioner aged Tory voter the photo of the Queen sitting alone at her husbands funeral next to Boris raising a glass of bubbly in Downing Street with his mates- it goes down like a cup of cold sick.

Just for clarity, a small but noisy group don't seem to like it. Personally I also won't like it when the government inevitably raises the state pension age again but I won't be out seeking compensation.

I think also most have stories of neighbours or similar taking the **** which helped it fall apart a fair bit. The Boris partygate stuff was the final nail in the coffin for any further compliance though. My Tory voting, Boris supporting in-laws both still talk about how angry that whole situation made them.

I think the first COVID lockdown did engender a similar sense of togetherness in this country. There was a general feeling of 'we're all in this together, pulling in the same direction' for the first few months. However it frayed quite quickly and that sort of unity only lasts so long.

All these rules do are keep the top clubs in their place and unthreatened. Talk of Villa having to sell players to keep on the right side of these rules even if they finish top 4. Either let it be a full on money spaffing free for all or put it some rules to actually level the playing field. This half way house **** does nothing for the good of the game.

As someone who despairs at the pushing up and up of state pension age my inclination is to side with these women but the more you read the less and less sympathetic I get. The case of the woman who had done enough planning to know how much state pension she'd get for her early retirement spreadsheet but hadn't bothered to double check when she'd get it is a case in point. The only benefits I'm entitled to are the free hours of childcare. I may get child benefit when the government raises the salary threshold. Best believe I'm going to be making sure I understand these policies properly before I start including any money from them in my budgets.

It is my biggest pet peeve while driving and I find myself shouting 'just ****ing signal!' so often when someone turns off left without signalling meaning I could have gone if they'd just, ****ing, signalled.

Do we really need you posting the latest clickbait non-story ****e from various news sources on here every day?

Sure you can, although I think those calculations obviously change when you're talking fee's of £20m+ like we were with those players, rather than the £1m we sold Mumba for.

I really struggle with this idea to be honest. He's 22, last season he was young player of the season in League One in his first full season as a starter. The season before this happened we decided he was worth a new four year deal. Assuming this is from Sofascore, that would be more than all but 4 of our players. Sure but I don't think not being a great finisher is enough to write him off as bang average. I can see tools with him- he's quick, he's got good touch, he'll take players on and he's comfortable on the ball. That, with the addition of positional flexibility and the fact he's still less than 100 games into his career and has significant room for improvement makes him someone we should be hanging on to. Worst case scenario is he didn't kick on and we've missed out on a relatively small fee. Best case is he built on a great season in League One and we have another £10m+ player on our hands. To me that is a much more worthwhile gamble than keeping Onel for another year blind alleys or Placheta to run very fast in a straight line for no reason.

I guess we can never know how unhappy he'd actually have been. As we've seen there have been plenty of minutes to go around for wide players and we don't know if Mumba could have done enough to earn more playing time. It'll never not be odd to me, considering the model we have here, to cash out on him the first chance we really got all things considered. I'm pretty confident that when Mumba leaves Plymouth it'll be for more than they paid us.

Again though, this doesn't remotely chime with the actual reality. 'He was never going to get ahead of Rowe or Sainz'- the same Sainz who didn't start a game until December? That guy? Your version of events seems to rest on the idea Mumba basically said 'I want to start every game and I refuse to compete at all' for which there is no evidence. If you look at the minutes we've given to very poor players in positions Mumba plays this season there is no doubt there were minutes here for him. We clearly either did a ****e job of convincing him the opportunity would be here or we didn't think he was worth trying to convince him. The fact Matos left because he reportedly didn't see a chance for himself here and we're hearing similar noises about Aboh suggests the former might be a wider issue. Oh and Placheta played 5 times for Birmingham.

Lol. No it isn't. This is just silly. Robert Earnshaw scored more goals per game for us than Iwan Roberts. Iwan Roberts was undoubtedly the better player for us. There was absolutely zero debate if Placheta or Hernandez were better than Mumba, they aren't, hence why nobody was interested in buying either of them. While I'm not a massive fan of these rating in isolation it is also interesting to note that of the 8 players you've listed as either being clearly better than him or debateably better than him, Sofascore only rates Rowe as being noticeably better than him this season. The idea that its a clear cut and dried argument doesn't remotely hold up.

I'm sorry but this is just nonsense. Nobody is saying he's a star player but frankly outside of Rowe and Sargent nobody in our squad is. What he is, in my view, is a better player than Onel and Placheta, about as good as Fassnacht and has a significantly higher upside than any of these three when it comes to resale value. It's mad that you spent ages going on about how Placheta had something, he just needed to be given a shot but when presented with a much better player in Mumba you're fine with him being binned off for a minimal fee. Bizarre.

No, I was pointing out that just going 'more goals means better player!' is simplistic nonsense. Your post I was replying to mentions nothing about his disciplinary record, just goals and minutes which is a stupid way to assess a player.

I don't think it just Placheta either- between him and Hernandez they've made 16 starts and 30 sub appearances, totalling over 1500 minutes. Personally I'd rather have seen those minutes go to someone like Mumba with a much higher long term upside than two players we know aren't really good enough.

Emi Buendia scored a goal ever 361 minutes for us. Chrsitian Fassnacht has scored a goal every 272 minutes for us. So by your logic Fassnacht is the better player right?