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  1. Posted

    [quote user="thebigfeller"]It''s certainly a darn sight better than Gunn - but when I look at Lambert''s record, all I see is a gradually improving manager: hardly a proven one. Awful at Livingston, albeit in very difficult circumstances which weren''t his fault. OK at Wycombe - League 2 play-offs is merely OK for them, though the Carling Cup run was certainly impressive. And OK at Colchester too: in their first season back down, how can 12th place be anything more than OK?

    Great that we''ve finally dispensed with the Mr Nice Guy nonsense and finally gone after our top target, regardless of what his club thought - but what bemuses me is that he was our top target in the first place. Sorry, but his experience as a player makes little or no difference to his prospects as a manager: otherwise, Peter Grant would''ve been a big success. And the feeling his appointment was sealed by one game is awfully uncomfortable too: didn''t that happen in Gunn''s case as well?

    My hope is that he can galvanise us and get us into the top six come May - but this could very much go either way. I''m not anti his appointment as such: it''s more that there''s just a big question mark in my head, and I was hoping for more really.
    [/quote]

    Here is another way of looking at it......

    Any manager who is highly successful at this level or Champs level is almost certainly going to get a shot at a bigger job such as lower prem or top champs club.

    If we use Martin O''Neil as an example, you have to take a chance on managers who have shown just enough that they have the potential to be a great manager.......

    A truely proven great manager isn''t coming here as he would already be working at one of the bigger jobs...........

    Our only chance of getting a great manager is taking a chance on a "potentially" great manager.  

    Again time will tell.........

    I like the fact our criteria for picking the manager this time is not sentiment (club fav) or experience/name (sacked many times) but is based puerly on ability and potential ability going forward.

     

  2. Posted

    I think the Archant mic was the paper cup with added string!

    On a related note......... anyone find it interesting that the only board member at the PC was McNally...............

    Now it would be easy to conclude that as we have a game tonight there are logistic/travelling problems but.........

    Normally with such a major/important announcement we see the whole board giving opinions on why they have picked the right man!

    Am I reading too much into it or are there problems behind closed doors?

    Are the chairman and majority shareholders still alive?

    We sacked one manager and hired another yet we have seen not one comment on either event...........very very strange.

    How about the local media ask some questions or can we conclude they have given up asking difficult questions?  

     

  3. Posted

    [quote user="Glenn Foy"]

    I was reading another post about Neil Adams saying he was arrogant, and I wondered what peoples thoughts were on him. Personally I think he is a legend, who pretty much calls everything and anything in Norwich matches correctly. I also love his optimism as well. I remember when we were 4-0 down against Col U and listening on the radio he said "we need to get a goal back before half time to get back into the game".

     

    My Verdict: HERO

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    I actually think he has done a decent job on the radio but his recent comments of "not knowing the LG 1 players" was pretty shocking........

    Its his job to know something about the players in LG 1........... and to pass on the knowledge/research on to the casual fan listening.

    Needs to either put in more effort himself or get a person to research each team and compile a file which he can use......

  5. Posted

    [quote user="Fuglestad"]

    Archant have been just as patronising, I think it was Lakey who summed up a summer "report" by stating there was nothing to look forward to next season in League 1.  Neil wound me up this week by happily admitting to knowing nothing about the players we are playing against. then moaning about having to visit "hell-holes". If I was a fan of a club like Exeter, I would have been bloody delighted when the mighty Norwich City were humbled by Colchester. Why are we so arrogant? We are league 1, can we please stop taking the p!ss out of the other clubs at our level. And, if i hear one more "expert" lazily ramble on about how we all have to play hoofball and fight because it''s lower league football I will quite possibly cry.

    [/quote]

    I must admit I was also pretty shocked that he admitted to not knowing much about any of the players in LG1 and lower.....

    Considering we are also in three cups that almost certainly involve us playing clubs from LG1 and LG2 at some stages its pretty poor.

    He cant slate people for effort or workrate when he admits he hasnt put much of one in himself for his chosen career.........

    How hard would it be to email/phone a few keen supporters at each club and get the skinny on various key players, some interesting facts, injuries at key positions ect ect ect.

    It would only take 2-3 hours tops per club to compile a decent file on each.....

     

     

  6. Posted

    [quote user="Camuldonum"][quote user="USAcanary"]

    [quote user="Barry Brockes"]Rather blows out of the water the theory that the new Archant man on the Board was put there to act as a censor.[/quote]

    Really.........we still dont know why the players were censored by the board on Saturday........... was Phillips part of that decision?

    http://www.pinkun.com/cs_pinkun/cs/forums/1805782/ShowPost.aspx

    [/quote]

     

    I think that is pretty obvious.  The way some of them were feeling on Friday afternoon and evening might have produced a statement which would have made Huckerby''s "worst team I have played in" interview look like a report of the Wymondham WI annual meeting.

    [/quote]

    Cause and effect................ why was the sacking so late on Friday when the "unanimous" decision was taken at the board meeting earlier in the week?................. more reasonable questions not being asked by the local media.

    In effect you are saying the board was trying to hide the shambles that had been going on behind the scenes................The board "unanimously" thought Gunn was NOT the right man yet let him buy 12 players and sign many others.

     

     

  7. Posted

    [quote user="Camuldonum"]

    PS: This is VERY simple stuff.

    I have no idea what the EDP asked Mr McNally but the question is:

    "Did you ban the players from talking to the media because you were frightened of what they might say?"

    To which there is either an explanation, a Yes, a No, or a No comment. 

    So you record the question and record the answer.

    And the public make of it what they will.

    [/quote]

    It would have been nice if I could see that exact question and answer in print?

    I must have missed it? Anyone have a link?.................. oh thats right.............there isn''t one!

    Just like the follow up question on the EXACT timing of the sacking.........nothing..........c''mon...........The jounos need to grow some and ask the tough questions.

    So when does the club un-BAN the players from talking? Are we under marshall law?

     

     

     

  8. Posted

    [quote user="OldRobert"][quote user="USAcanary"]

    Oh well............... I thought it was quite an important question myself.

    [/quote]

    Who cares what the players may or may not have to say?  Very few footballers seem capable of stringing two or more words together without an ummmmm or an errrr or all the footballing cliches.  There is also the other ''little problem'' they seem to have whereby when be interviewed on TV they cannot look directly towards the camera or the interviewer, always to left or right.  It is best that they ''speak'' with their feet rather than their mouths, as very little has ever been known to come out of their mouths that is worth listening to, or indeed that makes sense.

    McNally I am sure is actually far better informed in matters NCFC than you or I.  For one thing I''m sure he has a much better idea of who our new manager will be than any of the posters and rumourmongers on here.[H]
    [/quote]

    Thats NOT the point............... its the fact they were TOLD by the club not to say anything.................

    The point is also that the majority of the local media has strong links to the club and are pecieved like they are backing away from asking difficult questions...........

    If people don''t understand how worrying this is then I don''t know what to say............

    I am the last person to be a conspiracy guy but the local media need to show more balls IMHO.

    Chris Lakeys answer in the podcast just wasn''t good enough IMHO.

  10. Posted

    [quote user="blahblahblah"][quote]

    I know this won''t be well received by some of the more abnormal posters on here (that''ll be most of you, then!) but a thumbs up to Archant and Stephan Phillips for allowing such a piece to be published. If Phillips was interefering with journalistic content there''s no way that this would have been published.

    Thumbs up to the author as well; the point he makes that investment and passion does not qualify you to run a football club competently is the crux of what''s wrong with DS and MWJ''s involvement in the club.

    [/quote]

    Of course, if Mr Phillips wanted to get Delia and Michael to step down and become silent partners (and to be fair, who could blame him), there would be no easier way of doing so than getting one of his employees to write this article - to be fair though, I don''t think people need much prompting at the moment...  It looks like D & M are on their way to becoming silent anyway given the reversal from their position on Gunn at the Capital Canaries Q & A - how often will they be out-voted from now on ?
    [/quote]

    Bingo! 100% spot on IMHO................there has been talk/rumor that the "unanimous" vote to oust Gunn wasn''t exactly unanimous!

    Its obvious that the timing of the sacking was very strange so late on Friday which suggests more going on behind closed doors than we are being told about.

  13. Posted

    [quote user="USAcanary"]

    Any chance you can ask the club WHY they put a gag order on the players today?

    I found it strange that after being told that no players would be allowed to do interviews today that nobody asked WHY?

    Or is this type of question too hardball? And you are worried about losing media access?

    [/quote]

    Interesting that in the Chris Lakey podcast he addressed this question except he never really gave much of an answer! (its roughly half way through the podcast)

    Chris Lakey said "we asked why they wern''t allowed to speak to us, not sure we got the best answer in the world, but I suppose its pretty obvious why they didn''t"

    I must be a bit thick! because its not obvious to me why they were stopped from talking? The players have normally talked after previous managers have been sacked.

    As for Chris Lakey saying McNally isn''t a soft touch.............. I will tell you this, he did not come accross well in his interview on Radio Norfolk.

    That''s not just my opinion but those of many people who heard it both on this forum and WOTB. The majority thought he said very little and was humming and harring.....sounded a bit unsure.

    His post match "interview" was pretty close to the statement the club released when Gunn was sacked which meant we learned very little plus he seemed to have no clue about the JFH rumors that were flying around.

    Obviously becaue he thought Chris Goreham meant JFH as a player not as a manager! (the point is virtually everyone knew of the rumor except him. There might be some question marks on how informed he is)

    McNally when asked about the "timing" of the sacking (less than 24 hours before a crucial game) gave an answer that made little sense. (to me anyway)

    His claim that no time was a good time as we are playing SAT/TUES all season. Yet after meeting earlier in the week they decide to wait till late on Friday evening to sack Gunn????????

    Why not sack him right away?

    That makes zero sense as you don''t give all the staff and players a chance to get over the initial shock.

    McNally is right, no time is a good time to fire the manager but obviously I can''t think of a worse time. Did any of the media push him on that?

    I must admit that I was one of those people who scoffed when people were claiming media conflict of interest with so many links to the club............. I am now on the fence until proven otherwise.

    With the board having an Archant connection and Radio Norfolk having Neil Adams who is a coach at the club plus Mick Dennis (who I like a lot FWIW) admits he is close friend with the board members,  its important that the major local journalists be "seen" to ask the difficult questions at times like this.

    If the questions are too hardball and you are worried about losing media access or worried about your own job then I guess thats understandable. 

     

     

     

     

     

  17. Posted

    [quote user="Beauseant"]

    [quote user="USAcanary"]His excuse for the timing of sacking Gunn made no sense........
    He said no time would be perfect with SAT/TUES games all season.

    OK, if thats true then why not sack him as soon as it was voted on at the board meeting?
    Why wait less than 20 hours before a crucial game?
    Surely its better to let the players/staff get over the shock.

    While its true that no time is perfect, obviously this was just bad timing...........Unless something happened that they are not talking about.........

    Did any of the journos ask WHY the players were under a gag order after todays game.

    Thats a strange one.

    They either know something about what went on or know something about who the new manager is..........

    Obviously the club is scared they will blab.

    When asked if we had chosen a new manager, McNally said no....... but of course he would say that even if we had someone lined up.

    The only good thing to come from the interview was that he confirmed that JFH would not be coming here as a player![/quote]

     

    Good points.He certainly sounded very ill at ease, as has been noted on another thread.... almost as if he was worried about letting something slip. As for the timing argument, surely the " best" time is immediately after a game so as to allow the maximum time to retain equilibrium before the next?

    [/quote]

    Yes, he hummed and harred and tried to almost repeat the club statement they released on Gunns sacking...........You can tell Butterworth had also been told to choose his words carefully

    There were rumors of a bust up amongst the members of team Gunn.

     

  19. Posted

    His excuse for the timing of sacking Gunn made no sense........
    He said no time would be perfect with SAT/TUES games all season.

    OK, if thats true then why not sack him as soon as it was voted on at the board meeting?
    Why wait less than 20 hours before a crucial game?
    Surely its better to let the players/staff get over the shock.

    While its true that no time is perfect, obviously this was just bad timing...........Unless something happened that they are not talking about.........

    Did any of the journos ask WHY the players were under a gag order after todays game.

    Thats a strange one.

    They either know something about what went on or know something about who the new manager is..........

    Obviously the club is scared they will blab.

    When asked if we had chosen a new manager, McNally said no....... but of course he would say that even if we had someone lined up.

    The only good thing to come from the interview was that he confirmed that JFH would not be coming here as a player!

  21. Posted

    [quote user="LQ"]It''s not just you, Matt.

    [url]http://www.pinkun.com/content/pinkun/blogs/lq-another-girl-another-planet.aspx[/url]


    [/quote]

    Its obvious if you watch todays Chris Lakey video that nobody at archant knew that he was getting sacked today.......

    Obviously Stephan Phillips kept this very quiet which is good sign of his integrity on matters involving the club. 

    He put the club before his own personal business. Thats a tough spot.

    I still think the timing is strange given that the CE stated the board had met earlier in the week.

    Why not do it straight away? Why wait less than 24 hours before a crucial game.

    Part of me thinks something happened that forced them to announce it today.........

    Maybe a bust up or maybe the next manager accepted the position?

    I can understand why they did it......... its not so much about the 7-1 but their belief that he is not the right man going forward.

    If they dont think he is the right man then it makes sense to sack him now while the transfer window is open.

    At least giving the next manager a chance to wheel and deal.

     

  22. Posted

    [quote user="The Voice of the Thorpe Area"][quote user="Canarydan82"]

    I think the best we could hope for is a proven manager at this level - Perhaps Curbishley? Jewell? Coppell, ?????

    [/quote]

    No chance whatsoever. We missed our chance appointing Jewell when we sacked Worthy. All 3 could get jobs in higher divisions, when the vacancies arise, that is.

    [/quote]

    Seriously, this is "off the charts" funny.

    After his last failure and his public sex scandal I would think Paul Jewell would be lucky to get ANY job let alone a good one........

    I also think Curbishley thinks he is better than he is when he totally ruled out any non-prem clubs........

    What has the guy won? He isn''t likley to get a job at the top 10 prem clubs so that leaves only 8-10 clubs who might consider him.

    Its interesting that of those clubs recently looking for a new manager. Sunderland went for Bruce and Wigan went for Martinez........

    No mention of Curbishley.

    Its ironic how long David O''Leary has been out after being touted as one of the best young managers..... You soon get forgotten if you havnt won much.

    Coppell will be in demand because he left on his terms and he left a really good squad of players with many quality young players coming through.

    Even so, not sure if he will get a job at a prem club, big champs club at best.

  23. Posted

    [quote user="Iwan legend"][quote user="USAcanary"]

    As already suggested even if the board met earlier in the week, the timing is really strange.........

    I agree with those who think that something happened in the last 1-2 days that caused the board to take the action they did.

    Why so late in the day before a crucial game????

    Either some kind of bust up or maybe another manager has agreed to take over?

    The rumors of management bust ups have been flowing. Probably no smoke without fire.

    As I said last week I could understand if they sacked Gunn NOW, mainly because the transfer window is still open and a new manager can still wheel and deal a bit.

    Its easy to not look on Gunn''s reign as very positive.
    The board have totally stood by the fact they said it was a "results based business"
    McNally with his comments is showing he is 100% commited to winning promotion.
    I think they are actually looking at the big picture and not last weekends disaster........
    It would hav been easy to sack him right after the game but obviously the allowed a cooling off period to decide.
    Not sure why the waited less than 24 hours before a crucial game.

    I have a sneaking feeling that after time has passed history will judge Gunn as manager somewhat better.
    He may even be given some praise for bringing in some quality players to the club for very little money.

    As for the new guy, I already suggested Coppell or Robbins might do a good job.
    I have a feeling somone is already lined up.

    I actually think that the club is very attractive to a new manager

    We have a board who look 100% commited to promotion.
    We look like we have a half decent squad with a bit of depth at most positions.

    [/quote]

     

    Based on what though? He only managed 6 wins, didn''t he?

    [/quote]

    On results, obviously he will be judged harshly, they were very poor....... but if the nucleus of the squad he brought in goes on to do well then obviously we must also give him credit.

    As an example, say Cody goes on to catch fire and attracts a 2-3 million bid from a champ/Prem club in Jan, obviously credit would be due.......

  24. Posted

    As already suggested even if the board met earlier in the week, the timing is really strange.........

    I agree with those who think that something happened in the last 1-2 days that caused the board to take the action they did.

    Why so late in the day before a crucial game????

    Either some kind of bust up or maybe another manager has agreed to take over?

    The rumors of management bust ups have been flowing. Probably no smoke without fire.

    As I said last week I could understand if they sacked Gunn NOW, mainly because the transfer window is still open and a new manager can still wheel and deal a bit.

    Its easy to not look on Gunn''s reign as very positive.
    The board have totally stood by the fact they said it was a "results based business"
    McNally with his comments is showing he is 100% commited to winning promotion.
    I think they are actually looking at the big picture and not last weekends disaster........
    It would hav been easy to sack him right after the game but obviously the allowed a cooling off period to decide.
    Not sure why the waited less than 24 hours before a crucial game.

    I have a sneaking feeling that after time has passed history will judge Gunn as manager somewhat better.
    He may even be given some praise for bringing in some quality players to the club for very little money.

    As for the new guy, I already suggested Coppell or Robbins might do a good job.
    I have a feeling somone is already lined up.

    I actually think that the club is very attractive to a new manager

    We have a board who look 100% commited to promotion.
    We look like we have a half decent squad with a bit of depth at most positions.

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