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Watford showed how to win well. They were tight at the back solid in midfield and electric up front. Farke should show our squad that video and say that is how you have to compete if you want to stay up. Every single Watford player closed the Liverpool players down, and when they broke, their only thought was to go forward; no sideways and backwards passes. They didn't mark spaces and let runners go, they kept with them.

All three failed miserably.

Agree but Farke is only interested in the fact he covers more ground than the other players.

When we break it is at snail pace and everyone stands still. When Leicester break their players are all moving and making themselves available.

What game are you watching?

Agree 100% Leicester know we are going to try and walk it in. Anyone seen Duda?

A bit harsh but he could have taken Rukk, Duda and McLean off as far as I am concerned, they didn't really contribute anything. I feel sorry for Vrancic and Buendia as they both should have started.

I think you have summarised exactly what happened tonight. There were 2 options when it was 1-1 with 20 mins to go, either you bring on Trybul and Amadou and hang on for a point, or you bring on Hernandez and Drmic and give them time to go for a winner. The problem is he didn't do either and when they scored he brought the subs on far too late.

The players are clearly being told to play this way. I have said before every other team in this league knows that if they press us we will give it away.

For the most part all I can see is us passing the ball sideways and backwards, then under pressure we give it away. Listening on the radio tonight all I heard was Norwich have given the ball away again. Substitutions can change a game, but not if you make them in the last 5 mins. Farke might not have been given funds but it is his tactics that frustrate a lot of City supporters.

Backwards, sideways then give the ball away just about sums it up.

Have to agree I cannot understand what he expects the subs to do with a few minutes left. Should have made the subs as soon as we equalised. Poor decision making again.

He also refuses to ever leave a player on the halfway line for opposition corners and free kicks. Having 10 men in the box is a hindrance in my opinion as real defenders often have their own players getting in the way. How many clearance headers have Buendia and Cantwell ever made, leave one on the halfway line and you immediately take 2 opposition players out of the equation.

I think Farke missed an opportunity today when they went down to 10 men because he could have tried leaving one man on the halfway line when they had corners, long throws and free kicks. There was yet another corner today where we had all 10 back and they won the header. Just once I would like him to try it and see if it gives the defenders a better chance to clear the ball.

Of all those sides only Watford are on a good run at the moment. A win for us at the weekend and other results going our way means we could only be 5 points from safety. I just hope Farke puts an attacking side out against Bournemouth.

Loving this Villa game and good news for the goal difference at the end of the season. It will be a good time to play Bournemouth Sat and a win will give us a massive boost. If Godfrey / Klose and Pukki are back soon so we will be ready for the fight. Just seen confirmation Duds has signed.

We are failing at the moment because our defence is poor, which is partly down to injuries, but partly down to Farke persisting with zonal defence marking. Every other manager can see that we bring everybody back in the box to defend corners and free kicks; yesterday we actually had 5 players marking 1 Man Utd attacker and not surprisingly an unmarked player scored. This has happened so many times this season. When we are on the front foot and playing attacking football we have troubled every team in this league and have often taken a lead in the game. Unfortunately all those other managers know that if they can create free kicks or corners then they will invariably score against us.

I still think Farke is doing a good job, especially in bringing the youngsters in. I would question his decision today to take off Pukki and replace him with Stiepermann and also only giving Idah 5 mins on the field. He would have been better off bringing on Trybul and Amadou and trying to hang onto that slender lead.

Just remind me why Stiepermann us on the pitch. He stands still most of the time.

It was disappointing to lose as we had played really well in the first half. This was yet another game we could have won, but how often do we concede a goal with our zonal marking; and only Farke can tell us why he leaves tired players on the pitch and thinks 3 subs in the 86th min will save the game.

Substitutes can change a game, but three on 86 mins, you must be joking. I agree Farke has done an excellent job, however, there were tired legs in that second half, most of the supporters could see it, but clearly not Farke. Buendia had his best game today and caused Wolves loads of problems. Why does Farke insist on bringing everyone back for his zonal marking, he could have left Buendia on the halfway line. Late substitutions and zonal marking have almost certainly contributed to our league position. We are still only 6 points adrift but perhaps he could reconsider both these areas of concern.

Agree 100%.

I thought Byram had an excellent game, similar to his performance against Man City. We cut out the silly sideways and backwards passing today. We moved the ball forward much quicker and had players in support. Finally we pressed high as a team. If we play like this we will get a lot more points.

The worrying thing for me is against the 8 other teams in the bottom half we have won 1, drawn 1 and lost 6. These are the teams we should be getting points against. The gap to 17th place is only 4 points. I am not sure where we are likely to pick up another point in Dec with Leicester and Villa away and Wolves and Spurs at home. I am still optimistic while the gap is still small, but it doesn't look good going into the transfer window if we are adrift at the bottom with Watford.

Farke holds the key to whether we can stay up in that he has to change us from being too predictable. He deploys a zonal marking system with all 10 outfield players in our box and it frankly doesn't work. Change to man to man marking occasionally, and it gives defenders a chance to win the first ball. Leave someone like Hernandez on the halfway line and they will leave two back to mark him, plus the fact we have an outlet should we win that first header. Most teams know by now that we pass the ball out from Krul to a back four player and then across the back four and when pressed back to Krul, who under pressure has to hastily clear. I lost count of how many times it went from Krul to Godfrey to Byram who stopped turned around and passed it back to Godfrey and then onto Krul. The opposition know that all they have to do is press us and we end up giving it away. When we move the ball forward with pace to our wide players, such as some recent long passes from Zimmermann it immediately allows us to push more players up into the opposition half and put them under pressure. I still believe he can keep us up, but he has to stop us from being too predictable.