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  1. Just look at what Martin O''Neil has done at Villa with the same group of players; heres hoping we can bring in someone who can lead and inspire, rather than make do with motivational poters. Look to the future. not the past, NCFC will always be here, and if we can all pull in the same dirextion, we can move mountains.   OTBC 4 EVER
  2. I agree 100%; lets get on with what we all want, that is making NCFC good again.   For a while, three years, Nige was the answer, and then it all went wrong; sorry it came to this, really I am.Lets not forget the run in to the play off final, or that magestic five months as we swanned into the Premiership, and to paraphrase TMITS, I also danced on the gresty Road pitch, and that is something I will not forget either.
  3. I honestly think Delia and the board should be given credit for showing loyalty, even if it was misplaced, to Nigel; too often in the past we have seen clubs react in a knee-jerk way in getting rid of a manager. One would hope there was a plan B made if things did not go right today, and that that plan is now swinging into action.   What is needed no is action, by the board, and something done and quick. It seems to me that the players have no self belief, and when the first goal goes in, it''s a case of how many.   I would hope that delia and Michael do the right thing, and then move the club forward again; unlike many on these boards, I do have faith in Delian and the board, although that is being tested now, and I would hope that they take the only action now available to them, which would not make them look foolish.   I also was hoping that there would be a quick resolution to things after the game; after the statement, it seems like an opn and shut case for Nigel to be given his carriage clock and shown the door; maybe discussions are still taking place, but this being Norwich, who knows?
  4. I thought only Hucks and Earnie came out of the game with any credit.   The defence should collectivly hang their heads in shame, as it was appalling; and having watched city for 34 years have seen some debacles. Probably the worse defensive display I have ever seen in yellow and green.   This is the team Nigel built, and therefore stands or falls with it.   Could it be that other players have heard wat it''s like to play under him, which is why no one wanted to take the yellow shilling during the summer?
  5. Surely, it can only mean one thing?   What does it take for the poor deluded man to see it''s time to go, with what little dignity he has left?   All was well until we went a goal down, then down went the heads. And quite what goes on at Colney when defending practice takes place, as it aint on show come game time. And Nutty Nige was a defender as well.   Please Nige, go now, or failing that, Delia, do the only thing left.   OTBC
  6. I always hoped that TMITS was Rick in a guise able to say what he wanted rather than tow the company line that all was well at the road. Any one know who the man really is, I''m sure this has been covered before, but I must have missed it.
  7. I have to say that I agree with everything King Juan of Spain says, does that make me a mindless sheep as well, or a pleb? There are some players that deserve our support, and if there are those out there so blinkered that they cannot see it, then i pity them. Resorting to personal insults is just not good enough, if you can''t come out with a reasoned argumant, then don''t bother posting. Playground chants should have been left at school. Insulting other supports just because they don''t share your point of view is well out of order, and certainly does not carry the discussion forward.   Oh, and OTBC
  8. I have to agree with what has been said, and sadly disagree with Chicken. I say sadly, as in a perfect world he would be right. But it''s not perfect. My main concern is the future, and if we''re being honest can you really see things getting any better next season with Nige at the helm? Where are the bright young players waiting to get into the first tem? Even if we did have players waiting, Nigel has shown he has no confidence in them, and will only give them the chance when there is nothing to play for. Our ever dwindling transfer kitty will only bring mor eof the same, and we would only play the same old tactics.   At the start of the season I really thought that we would finsih in either first or second place, a playoff berth at worst. I think that a mid-table finish is so far below expectations, and what was required of the season, that the only way forward is to part company with Nige. As the head of the coaching team, he must have to carry the can for what has happeend, and the attitude that the team has gone out onto the pitch on most occasions.   I will probably not protest at the last two home games, as I really don''t think it is going to do any good with the board; the protest has made their point; and now with nothing to play for, we will see what the furure direction of the club will be. He has promised to give youth a chance. I think it would be right to give someone the chance this season to run the rule over the sauad, but in truth we know the board will not do this. We also know in our hearts that Nigel will be in charge next season, as the board seem willing to give him chances beyond count.   What I cannot accept is the fact that quite clearly there are players at the club once again who seem just happy to turn up to pick up their wages; Nigel began as manager by clearing players with this attitude out; I would rather see Spillane and co out on the pitch giving 100% that so-called professionals cruising along in neutral. As paying supports we are well within out rights to complain, and for players to think otherwise is niave. Sadly, I think more sarcastic cheering when a pass finds it''s intended objective; in other words it could be another quiet day at the Carra.
  9. As Arsenal have proved, if the players are good enough, let Arsne lets them play, the old addage about being good enough not matter what the age is. What worries me is that according to Hucks is that the young players are not good enough now, what have they been doing up to now? Looking back at a couple of programs from only 5 years ago, it''s sad to see that only Shackle from that team has made any impression in the first team, all others having moved on. We spent nearly a million quid on the acadamy at the end of the 90''s when we had little spare cash, on the promise that it would produce better young players. This quite clearly has failed, is someone looking at this failure, are we going to see an imporvment any time soon? One thinks not. As long as the club fails to produce good young players, we will have to go to the transfer market to get the players we need; thus costing money. Or ''freinds'' down the A140 learnt this lesson long, long agao, and are now working a lot harder than City on recruiting the next generation of players.
  10. If the door was still ajar on Friday, does Nigel believe he can hack his way through it with an axe now?
  11. The question is, do we a. continue with the same team in the vain hope that we will make the playoffs thanks to five of the teams above us being abducted by aliens, or   b. Maybe give some of the younger players a longer run in the team, seeing as it''s probably them that will be playing next season anyway?   I think you see where my point of view is.   Although I think it is everyone''s right to protest, I am thinking, what''s the point continueing? I mean, we made our point, and the club saw the pictures, heard the silence. What is clear that noting is going to change before the summer. Although I believe it is time for Nigel to go, the point has been made, what good can me done by going further? I would suggest that let things be for now, and if things really don''t change over the summer, then, let the protests begin. What happens over the summer will tell us what the club''s abitions really are.   One other question, Nigel has a one year rolling contract; does that mean we have to give hime one years notice to get rid of him, or does it roll from the first day of the season, or some other such day?
  12. The last person to from the club to question loyalty of it''s supports was a certain Fat Bob Chase. I don''t think baiting fans is a wise course. Also, on last years premiership campaign, we conceded so many goals it was at times farcical. In almost any other season we would have been relegated with more than two months to go. Investment in forwards is on;y worthwhile if there is a supply to create chances for them. It has been said that we could have the best forwards in the country, but if no chances are created, then no goals can be scored.   I do, however, feel that personal insults to Delia nd Micheal is uncalled for, and suley over the years they have proved time and time again their commitment to the club? I was hoping this was going to be a reasoned discussion, but at times it turns into nothing more than a playground spat, boo sucks to you with knobs on, etc.   Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and should have the respect of others for giving  it; not this childishness which is taking over the message board. Lets at least act like grown ups.
  13. Many of the KTFers seem to think the club owes NW loyalty after get turned the team around and got us promoted. Where was the loyalty to some of our players, Malky, Iwan, etc when they were shown the door? The answer is that this is a business, and a cut throat one at that. Some people here are trying to have a reasoned discussion, whilst others are almost hystercal in their posts. Befpre the season began, I thought that anything less than promotion would be a failure, with the rescourses that the club has had this season. And now it looking like that we will fall some way short of even making the play offs, failure is too weak a word. Whether change comes tomorrow, or during the summer, it has to come; players suggesting the ''poisonous'' atmosphere making it hard to play at home is one thing, but the full houses and unbridled support from September didn''t help the players then. If players cannot get themselves motivated before games, then, maybe they are in the wrong job. All of us would sweat bood for the club given half a chance; what we have at the moment is a team of Lee Marshalls, apparently good enough but can''t be bothered, and that quite honestly is not good enough. On another point; something I have heard from around here where I live in Lowestoft, it seems that most young players are being snapped up by our friends down the A12 rather than by Norwich; if this is true, it has serious implications not for now, but ten years down the line.
  14. You only have to see the traffic chaos around the city on a game day to realise that a larger percentage of the city support comes from outside the city, therefore few of them, myself included, could make the meeting last night. Do not asume that because we were not there that we do not have an opinion or that we follow the club''s line, sheeplike. I was all for giving NW time this season, but face facts, things have not improved, and there is no plan to where the team goes from here. There is no exuse for waiting for injured players to return, no exuses for lack of money, or lack of support. There is something rotten in the state of Carrow Road, as Will Shakespear might have put it. Is it tactics, poor players, poor prepararation? Whatever, the guy at the top must take the blame. Like many others who live outside the city, I waited for reactions to the meeting last night, and it seems to me to have been conducted in an orderly and sober manor. The anti WO posters are so loud, maybe it''s because they realise that their arguments just don''t stand up.
  15. [quote user="MadDan"]What a load of old dross - all too typical of the whingers and whiners whose infantile bleats fill this board with predictable regularity of a herd of goats suffering a terminal case of constipation For the most the recipe seems to be that you start with a lie, add a healthy dollop of misinformation and stir daily with the kind of petulance that you would associate with an over tired infant. Anyone who points out the lies, attempts to correct the twisted and, all too often, invented stories are branded ''Keep the Faither''s''. A simple title from simple folk it would appear. A simple response that also appears to negate any responsibility to qualify the lies and distortions. If pushed they will hide behind some spurious claim of it being their opinion so they have a right to express it and do not have to have any evidence to back it up. In fact all to often it is spouted in the face of evidence to the contrary. So the kids are going to take their toys away. " Boo hoo, it ain''t fair no more " Well close the door on the way out. Those of us who have been here before expect no better of the club or the whingers. Every club has it''s peaks and troughs. So where are we ? Possibly in the strongest financial position the club has been in. Possibly, barring the original building of Carrow Road, the strongest position in relation to both fixed assets and off field income. So why are we not heading back to the Premiership as most expected last August. Why are we like most of the club''s relegated from the Premiership finding ourselves battling to find our feet ? Why should we be a special case and not like those other clubs ? I don''t suppose any of us can say exactly. We can speculate but that''s about all we can do. The club will change managers as and when they see fit - not as a result of some fabricated tosh from a bunch of rural malcontents. Supporting through thick and thin is not blinding yourself to what''s going on, but it is at least about being honest. Not filling this board with endless lies and conjecture. Not looking for every unfounded rumour to twist and throw at the club because it is not living up their own particular fantasies. It''s not about keeping the faith more a point of keeping your head. Sadly though, I have to wonder if some of our fans have anything inside their head that would make it worth their while to keeping it.[/quote]   In what sense ''strongest finacial position''? Still having to take loans from the majority shareholder does not seem that strong to me.   I would agree that Norwich supporters have jumped to be maoners beofre needed, but with what has happened in the last 18 months, maybe they have a point. In any sense of the word, Nigel has not been successful, and looks like not being again in the near furure. Several City managers have been sacked for doing better than this, Ken Brown case in point.   Failure to gain promotion in either this or next year when we have parachute payments will be a financial disaster, and any number of hotels won''t cover the holes in the balance sheet.   Most shareholders choose to give their dividends back to the club to raise money, and the ''A'' preference shareholders get no dividend at all; and if like me saw it as an extra injection of cash into the club, with no financial rewards expected.   I have to say that this tread is not the usual whinging and whineing, but thought out and reasoned arguments.
  16. What dissapoints me more than anything else, is the fact that the announcement comes a few hours after the last home game for a couple of weeks, thus avoiding all those annoying fan''s demonstrations. I echo The Man In The Stands comments last night, where has all the money gone? £18 million from last year''s Premiership debacle, and £5 million this and next year in parachute payment coupled with Doomcaster''s saying at every oppertunity that there is no need to sell, So, why sell now? And all Championship clubs no know that we have upwards of six mill burning a hole in our back pockets, the chances of us getting either McSheffrey or Jerome for anything less than £4 mill is almost nil. Coupled with the fact that there is no guarantee that any replacement will fit in as well as Deano did. My thoughts go bak to another unpopular sale, If I may paraphrase; No (insert name of player), no fans, no future. I believe that as long as the club views itself as a small town club, thats what Norwich will remain.
  17. Last week at Old Trafford, a guy in an original pre-sponser NCFC shirt spent the whole game moaning, mainly about how crap Svenson was. When it was ponted out that it might be better to cheer the lads on, he got quite anti about it, and questioned where we lived, and ho often we went to games. I know he was probbly in th minority of one, but what makes someone give up a Saturday, an a load of cash, to coplain. Di he feel he did not get enough moans in last season? It''s the same as the two prats in the loos in the River End yesterday, bemoaning the defences''s shortcomings after te Gooner''s first. Could anyone really have stopped them yesterday? Of course not, we could have done better, for sure, but that''s how lesons are learned. Does endless critism of the players really help? Mark Barham and Robert Rosario both got slated in the 80''s, and their form dipped. Something to learn, I think. On a more positive note. the following at Man Utd and Newcastl was wonderful, days we thought we might never see again. The noise was mazing, and I hope we can carry this on to more important games in the near future. Come on lads, get behind the team, rather than on their backs, OTBC. P.S. I sit in heiver End not through choice, but to superstition.
  18. Even I have wondered over the last few weeks if it was all going pear shaped. But, to listen to some of the so called fans coming out of Selhurst park, and believe it or not, on Saturday, anyone would think we were certainties for relegation, not clear at the top. I thought it was a magnificent performance Saturday, in charge right from the start, and playing football like we know we can. And then, sitting on the train to Lowestoft, there’s this middle-aged guy, sitting as though he’s lost a fortune. Great game, says I. It was ok, but we’ll never get far playing like that. What, says I. And he goes on droning on how were poor, only scored once, etc. What do these people want? Why do they even bother coming to games, to moan? I know, I sit in the River End, not out of choice, but we always play better when I sit there, the fact that I swapped seats up there when Worthy arrived proves my point. But it’s so frustrating to hear three sides of the ground shouting their hearts out, only for the dead bodies in the morgue around us, muttering about the noise. And these are among the thousands who have renewed their season tickets, what for, a better class moan ahead if we are promoted? At least at away games it’s great to be surrounded by like-minded people shouting their heads off. And to the doomsayers who made the trip to Palace the other week, moaning as they made their way top the coaches after the full time whistle, are you going Saturday? I hope not. These are really brilliant times to be a Canary supporter, best for a decade, can you at least be pleased about that? I know most of you who read this are on the crest of a wave like me, so these comments are not aimed at you. But I am sure we all know someone who is only happy when they have something to complain about.
  19. Now, don''t get me wrong, Even I have wondered over the last few weeks if it was all going pear shaped. But, to listen to some of the so called fans coming out of Selhurst park, and believe it or not, on Saturday, anyone would think we were certainties for relegation, not clear at the top. I thought it was a magnificent performance Saturday, in charge right from the start, and playing football like we know we can. And then, sitting on the train to Lowestoft, there’s this middle-aged guy, sitting as though he’s lost a fortune. Great game, says I. It was ok, but we’ll never get far playing like that. What, says I. And he goes on droning on how were poor, only scored once, etc. What do these people want? Why do they even bother coming to games, to moan? I know, I sit in the River End, not out of choice, but we always play better when I sit there, the fact that I swapped seats up there when Worthy arrived proves my point. But it’s so frustrating to hear three sides of the ground shouting their hearts out, only for the dead bodies in the morgue around us, muttering about the noise. And these are among the thousands who have renewed their season tickets, what for, a better class moan ahead if we are promoted? At least at away games it’s great to be surrounded by like-minded people shouting their heads off. And to the doomsayers who made the trip to Palace the other week, moaning as they made their way top the coaches after the full time whistle, are you going Saturday? I hope not. These are really brilliant times to be a Canary supporter, best for a decade, can you at least be pleased about that? I know most of you who read this are on the crest of a wave like me, so these comments are not aimed at you. But I am sure we all know someone who is only happy when they have something to complain about. On another not, I am so pleased for Greeno, really just reward for three seasons top work. Lets hope it’s the start of a long international career, and as a Canary player, too. Keep the faith, and sing your hearts out. OTBC
  20. What ha struck me is tat Royle is talking up their chances, just like the Blarneymeister did to us a few years ago. Giving them a false hope. Worty has not mentioned the P word, and coninues in his own way. Does not make for interseting interviews, but sensible. Lets just put it all down to jealousy in Mel''s part. I knowI wouldbe ped of if my team had sunk so lo so quick since finishing fifth in the Prem. Anyone got an idea what the odds were for Malky to get two goals yesterday? As for Vilnis, he must be an expert in knowing what a team that isn''t good enough for the Prem he plays in one evry week. And as been said already, at this stage, the table don''t lie. OTBC
  21. Its a shame that a player who only last week said he would play for the canaries for any wage, has now said he could not reach agreement due to inflexibility by the board. I think this is a ploy to get more out of the Man City board in severence pay. Its a shame we are caught in the middle. I feel this is not the end of the matter, as he said on a number of occasions that he would like to mover here permanantly. Or do we treat this with a large pinch of salt? I too have though that the whole affair might have been created by the club to give the impression that they were being adventurous, to kid fans. But, I think this not to be true. At the end of the day, he said he would like to come. Man City agreed to sell him for a price. So, where has the problem now come from? Whatever happens now, lets remember what an impact he had at the club, and in modern football, you get what you pay for. Quality costs. Always.
  22. I agree, we need Bronby. I think Malky is performing below par, but maybehe needs a little compitition. I can honestly say, I have not been so upbeat about the player situation for years. This has been a real declaration of intent from the club. And not before time. I think if we are among the top three or four at the start of December, I don''tthink that it woud take much to get them to stay on longer. But for now, how great is this news?
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