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  1. 1 hour ago, ron obvious said:

    I thought they all came back together?

    I don't understand the hospital point.

    'Convenient excuse'. You seem to think he did it as a joyride.

    I doubt he was happy about any of it. And the risk to his niece was absolutely miniscule. Far less than anyone who would've had to help him out in London

    I didn't say it was a joyride. What I was implying was that he used it as a reason to give his family an advantage when he realised that if he had played by the rules he 'may', because he seconded guessed if his wife puking up that morning was getting Covid (If so, why did he return to work and risk people to exposure?) have to stay in London?. 

    His niece was very understanding that the reason her cousin was brought up to her, for childcare, was because Cummings thought he and/or his wife have/or had symptoms of Covid. That morning his wife was ill, and yet he still drove her all the way to Durham that evening. the next morning Cummings was very ill (he said he clearly had Covid symptoms, but he's never been tested to confirm) . No one is immune from it, no matter what age. You'd take the same risk with your niece I take it?

    As has been said the child rules were not for those who 'might' get Covid. Durham was not Cummings primary residence, additional pressures on communities, etc etc.

    No problem with anyone wanting to put their kids first before country, but , on this unique situation, millions have put country before their kids. 


  2. 1 hour ago, Van wink said:

    This child excuse is pushing things to a limit beyond what was intended, sometimes we need to go behind the regulations and look at their intention, the slight relaxation in relation to children was intended in the main to deal with situations  where children were at risk due to being in lockdown and in an abusive environment, Cummings has twisted this beyond the intention.

    Totally agree


  3. Just now, ron obvious said:

    As has been pointed out, the rules aren't so clear when a child is involved.

    The child was used as a convenient excuse (as was the 'threats' outside his house). If the situation was much further down the path with illness etc then a hospital would have come in too play. He was happy to have his son and niece in a crappy cottage 260 odd miles away. If his son suddenly got worse, with Cummings back in London, what would have happened then? 


  4. 1 minute ago, ron obvious said:

    Well, as has been pointed out the rules are open to some interpretation when young children are involved.

    Unless you stay indoors permanently then it's impossible not to get near people in a densely populated part of London (which a lot of it is). How do you get food? What if you get ill? Everything you touch will probably have been touched by many other people.

    How does that compare to Cummings situation in a cottage 50m from anyone else? He even had a couple of relatives with an extremely low risk of mortality from the virus lined up if the worst came to the worst.

    As I said, he's lucky. He's in a privileged position. If he has in fact put less lives at risk by his actions (assuming his account is correct) which I believe is probable, & he hasn't actually broken any law then I don't think he's done anything irresponsible.

    Well that is what the great unwashed were trying to do. That is what Cummings told everyone to do (even those with kids to try and get sorted). People were self isolating but also social distancing IF they HAD to go out. Cummings was taking a gamble on his nieces life. 


  5. 42 minutes ago, ron obvious said:

    Not if they all self isolated at all times.

    So, other rules were superfluous then? That's all people needed to do was to self isolate. The risk of having hundreds of thousands of cars driving up and down the motorways (one example) could, potentially have created a sheite fest for all sorts of people at the height of the virus. Not everyone can travel nigh on 600 miles with a  4 yr old kid with 'perhaps' one petrol stop and one toilet break and remained safe to all others. 

     


  6. 6 minutes ago, ron obvious said:

    He says he didn't stop on the way up. He was out of isolation on the way back.

    He may be lying of course. Neither you nor I know whether that is so.

    If you took one case/person then the risk would be minimal , but still present. If a few million other people decided to take similar actions, what would you have said then?


  7. What Cummings has done is put Family before Country, which , on the face of it no one would normally argue. But this is a global pandemic. Those rules (which Cummings was responsible for) were laid out to reflect the exact opposite of that.

     Other people have followed  those rules and put Country before Family and suffered irreparable trauma. 


  8. 11 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

    He said he wasn't unwell when he drove up in the evening.

    Yes, I have driven in a car with a four year old and in my experience young children will sleep most or even all of a journey like that.

    Driving in pandemic is no different than any other time except the roads are quieter.

    Rules were made about travel, but there were caveats about extenuating circumstances.  

    The "public mood" is a very generalised term and can be swayed by lots of things - social media for one which is often fed by those wishing to cause trouble and which is often well over the top in it's reaction. 

    I'm not stupid, I know it looks bad for him, but it depends on what you want to believe - some people are choosing to assume that he is lying about illnesses and the fear surrounding his situation and assuming to think the worst of him - that he went up for a two week get away for birthdays, visiting parents and sight seeing.  Others might think that he reacted under the circumstances in a sensible way for his family and his situation, given the wife's illness and his expected illness. It could be either, or it could be a bit of both - for me the lines are blurred by all the rubbish that has been written that isn't true, a lot of it has been second guessing and assuming he did things for the wrong reasons, rather than think there might have been good reasons for what he did.

    Only he and his wife know - and that is the truth of it, the rest is the media over reacting and making themselves look stupid in the way they have behaved and the rest of us all jumping on the bandwagon without really knowing the full facts. How much of what DC said yesterday is true is up to him and his conscience, if he has one, but for the rest of us who have stuck to the rules, he was right to be forced to make a statement and face questions. He's done that and that should really be an end to it.

    It would be LDC, if what he said hasn't been challenged with contradictions and exposes of what he said. Why not take a test drive round his family's large estate, rather than a public road? (That's just one example). Cummings said he makes lots of mistakes every single day (who doesn't make a mistake a day?) If he is that bad , then perhaps he is in the wrong job?


  9. 21 minutes ago, lake district canary said:

    Grealish? Nope, no way.

    As for Cummings, I was as angry about him as anyone last week, but then it changed when I saw the media frenzy around him and the hypocritical press ignoring rules in pursuing someone who they have been misrepresenting and accusing.  The whole shabang is just typical of the media and the government/politicians.  It all stinks. 

    Cummings?  There has been a lot of hype and wrong information given out about him.  He has done himself no favours of course, he never does and he plainly doesn't suffer fools gladly, which is why he treats the media with such disdain - and they treat him badly too, they always have.  He was wrong in the spirit and word of what everyone was told to do, but really - IF his wife was ill, IF he thought he was going to go down with the virus, then that is some mitigating circumstances that can be applied to the situation as it unfolded - and there is no doubt that there were caveats about extenuating circumstances in the original edicts about lockdown.

     

    If the senior Govt Advisor hadn't taken that journey, there would be no frenzy. The style of the frenzy (distancing) was wrong, but not the pursuit of the truth and the exposure of the hippocratic story.


  10. 7 minutes ago, kick it off said:

    What you fail to understand crabby is that Leeds are the only club in the country who has had their players on personalized fitness and nutrition programmed... every other club just gave up and started force feeding their multi million pound players donuts and takeaways...

    I like Leeds as a place, great city and generally decent people.

    this guy however is total tunnel vision delusional. He’s come on another clubs message board on a wind up with an inflated ego that makes him think any of us give a toss, yet isn’t very good at being a wind up merchant and ends up giving up on that and spouting unsubstantiated ****e about his club.

    weird.

    Same here Kio. One of my best mates , is a Leeds fan, and a top man. I have had one particularly memorable 'social' weekend there, which has generated more stories over that 3 day period than most in my life. 

    The thing is, Leeds know this is the last chance for them to get to the PL (Promised Land?) because they know their manager and 'star' players won't be in the Championship for next season and because it is looking shaky atm, they think the whole World is against them (yawn) and it's everyone else's fault. Tedious .


  11. 1 minute ago, kick it off said:

    What you fail to understand crabby is that Leeds are the only club in the country who has had their players on personalized fitness and nutrition programmed... every other club just gave up and started force feeding their multi million pound players donuts and takeaways...

    I like Leeds as a place, great city and generally decent people.

    this guy however is total tunnel vision delusional. He’s come on another clubs message board on a wind up with an inflated ego that makes him think any of us give a toss, yet isn’t very good at being a wind up merchant and ends up giving up on that and spouting unsubstantiated ****e about his club.

    weird.

    Doh! 🙂 


  12. 1 minute ago, Lowfields1919 said:

    Why?

    Bielsa teams have always been driven by fitness, its been well documented many times.

    The players have been given a strict fitness regime throughout all this, weighing in each day etc.

    Guarantee other teams will of been lax, you just have to see the excuses in the Premiership (by certain clubs) about how they need more time to get fit.

    They are paid to be fit, get on with it.

    I said it because it didn't do you any good last season. You can crow all you like about the fitness stats.

    Totally agree with your last line


  13. 4 minutes ago, Lowfields1919 said:

    The overwhelming vast majority want to play on, whichever way you try to paint it.

     

    We will be the fittest by far when we come back, make no doubts.

     

    Regarding Elland Rd...... personally I think BCD will work to our advantage, the nerves from the crowd won't be there to affect the players.

    That says more about Leeds fans than anything else. You're proving a point here, to the wider football World

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  14. 4 minutes ago, Lowfields1919 said:

    The overwhelming vast majority want to play on, whichever way you try to paint it.

     

    We will be the fittest by far when we come back, make no doubts.

     

    Regarding Elland Rd...... personally I think BCD will work to our advantage, the nerves from the crowd won't be there to affect the players.

    What a bizarre thing to say in all this.


  15. 1 minute ago, Lowfields1919 said:

    The overwhelming vast majority want to play on, whichever way you try to paint it.

     

    We will be the fittest by far when we come back, make no doubts.

     

    Regarding Elland Rd...... personally I think BCD will work to our advantage, the nerves from the crowd won't be there to affect the players.

    FML Mk2


  16. 3 minutes ago, Lowfields1919 said:

    I want us to play on.

    The club are voting to play on.

    Bielsa wants to play on.

    We don't want snivelling tossers like you harping on for years to come.

    https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/ceo-reveals-leeds-united-view-championship-curtailment-covid-19-testing-and-potential-national-embarrassment-2861324

    Its all there, I notice how you choose to avoid this though.

    FML. How did you lose your other eye?


  17. Would the impact the length of time it takes all the games to be completed impact on the start of next season and consequently things like players rest/off season be taken into account for that? Obviously FA Cup games have to be diarised also. The Euros taking place next Summer, will also have to be taken into consideration for timescales for the 2020/21 Prem season.

     

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