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  1. 49 points
    Hi all, This is Wooster’s daughter. I’m not too sure if I’m posting this in the correct place but I know my Dad had some friends on here and I just wanted to let you all know of his sad passing on Sunday morning. It has been a shock to all of us as we hoped he would have many more years left. I just thought I should let you all know how much he enjoyed the forum and hearing from all of you. He’d always tell me of the fundraisers you’d do together and the laughs he had with you all. I know he’ll be celebrating Norwich’s win up there. All the best to you all
  2. 46 points
    Here's an idea: if you want to support a club owned by billionaires who pay ludicrous transfer fees and wages, why don't you bore off and support Man City (or just about any established Premier League club). I'm immensely proud to support a self-sufficient club who buck the trend. I'd be pretty devastated if we started spaffing money up the wall when we've worked so hard to recover from the last time we tried that. We're the envy of most clubs outside the Premier League and there are a fair few Championship clubs with far richer owners who would gladly trade places with us. We're arguably one of the best run clubs in the country. I can't fathom why some people don't understand or appreciate that.
  3. 32 points
    Mrs Ricardo said "don't forget your lights", as we biked off down to CR this evening to run the rule over some of the new boys. Lucas Rupp was the only survivor from Saturdays debacle so I surmised it might be a bit of a "getting to know you" game. As I was soon to discover, it was anything but, and from the off everything looked nicely in synch. There was little of note in the opening exchanges with Sargent bustling clear on the right to win a corner while at the other end a long ball from the left went right across the City six yard box without anyone getting a touch. However we didn't have long to wait for some real action as on 12 minutes McLean floated a long pass into space for Tzolis to run on to and the Greek lad was cool as a cucumber, taking the ball in his stride and guiding it past the keeper with the help of a slight deflection. I have found over the years that it really doesn't take long to see if a young player has got what it takes and although I don't want to go over the top with Tzolis, anyone who couldn't see what I saw tonight is really wasting their time watching football. We were treated to it again on 25 minutes when his speed of thought and action found time for Dowell to set up Kenny McLean to thrash a twenty yarder just inside Nyland's left post. Bournemouth had dominated possession but never really got within striking range as City picked them apart with some deft passes. Tzolis was panicking the visitors defence by looking to run off the defenders shoulder everytime City came forward and it was no surpise just after the half hour when his sharp cross found Rupp on the penalty spot to slam a in a third with the keeper helpless. I don't want it to sound like a one man show because there were excellent contributions from Dowell and Sargent, while at the back Mumba, Zimbo, Williams and Omobamidelle were solid and seldom under any pressure and Sorenson was calmness itself in the centre of the park. However the real buzz came when the ball reached Tzolis, he just seemed capable of making things happen. I posted on the Pinkun thread at half time about his speed, balance and control, its hard to put into words but to me he just looks every inch a footballer. Wow! whoever scouted him should get a big Xmas bonus. I wondered if the second half would live up to it but if anything City whipped the ball about even quicker and we were treated to some really good stuff. Dowell picked up a stray pass 30 yards out and his cute ball left Tzolis with a run on goal. Nyland managed to get a hand on it but Sargent was on hand to tuck in the deflection to get his own scoreboard up and running. Fifteen minutes later the big strker returned the favour by winning the ball on the edge of the Bournemouth area and sliding a low ball across for Tzolis to ram in his second of the night. With a quarter of an hour to go nobody would have blamed Tzolis for going for his hat trick when bursting through on the left but he unselfishly fed Sargent who bundled home the sixth goal of the night. He might well have got his third but the next time he burst away he was just off target. Hmm, human after all. Gianoullis, Idah and Gilmour all had little cameo's but I can really only talk about one man tonight. As my son remarked as we were leaving, "wherever did the find him for that price"? Oh where indeed. I got wet on the ride back but it was well worth a soaking to witness that.
  4. 29 points
    Where did it all go wrong Daniel, Stuart, Delia? I had a client who - aside from other things - was a leading National risk assessor for Health & Safety accidents at work. When thinking about apportioning blame for any perceived failure, I often think about his firmly-held belief - borne of repeated experience - that major failures are almost always the consequence of a string of (he would say predominantly-avoidable) smaller errors occurring in collective sequence. These errors can be broken down into the strategic, the operational-systemic and the individual. The overriding driver for assessment is learning and structural improvement where necessary. Much as it is with Norwich. In the immediate aftermath of failure, my client would consider it highly unwise to leap to find fast answers and apportion useful blame. It is something of a human instinct, though it is a poor substitute for slower, more considered thinking. Norwich don’t have enough money to compete on an equal footing at this level. This is undoubtedly a massive hindrance and defines a number of macro imperatives that drive subsequent sporting decisions. Let’s start with the obvious. There are few Norwich fans who would argue against the statement that Buendia was our best player last year and that Skipp was our most important. Buendia for pure ability to hurt the opposition and affect games, week in, week out. He cannot be ignored strategically by the opposition, they have to change their own preferred plans to adjust to his very presence. Coaching definition: a weapon. Skipp naturally played the exact way that offered a key counterpoint to the way Farke likes to play and set up his sides. He instinctively acted as a third centre back when necessary, didn’t get sucked forward or out of shape when we were on top, smelt danger before it arrives and was fast into the fire at its outbreak. If he was not priceless to us, his role was. If not him, then someone had to bought to do that exact job. It is even more important at the top level. This is not hindsight, it was pretty clear to the vast majority of Norwich fans who watch their team regularly. Let us now shoot a canard or two to move the discussion forward. It is unheard of to sell your best player and major weapon upon promotion. Unheard of. The timing of it is extraordinary. It was a huge gamble and - slightly - smells of a compulsive need-belief in ‘doing differently’ to the point where you try to reinvent the wheel in evangelical belief. Norwich did not have to sell Buendia. There have been thousands of footballers who pitched for a move, who got their agent to get spiky, who leaked some ‘come-and-get-me’ pleas, a thousand gentleman’s agreements in football that weren’t worth the toilet paper they weren’t wiped on. Norwich were premier League. Buendia was under contract. Promotion was fresh. Norwich chose to sell Buendia. This goes to the heart of the issue, as it combines the weaknesses of lack of finance with sporting strategy. It is not retrospective wisdom to note that at the top level teams are full of powerful, capable squads who have the top level nous to minimise on-field strategic weakness (and force the best to be brilliant, week-in, week-out). Weaker teams face more pressure and thus weaker players make more individual mistakes. Is this then really errors of the individual or the inevitable odds of the wheel of fortune? Stuart Webber wisely stated that we would not try to compete with this, that we couldn’t, that we would focus on improving the first xi and not spread money around a vast squad of interchangeable (likely not-quite-as-good-as-everyone-else’s) players. Nevertheless the decision was made to sell Buendia - who not only a weapon in his own right, but also ensured that Pukki his compadre was at least half a weapon. That’s already good enough to trouble teams a bit. What has been bought are not weapons. They are good players. We are on average much better as a squad, yet conversely less dangerous to the opposition. There is the trade. It seems at odds with the early-in-pre-season statement. Daniel Farke can pick two good teams every week, though not an eleven that can trouble the opposition. This looks like an expensive mis-calculation. There may be a necessary asset investment angle to this. A Tzolis, a Sargent, a Rashica can flourish and suddenly be a valuable asset. They may stay and thrive in the Championship. This strategy may be a product of lack of finance. It would be hard to argue that it doesn’t sacrifice the here-and-now though. The painful truth may be that Daniel, Stuart and Delia have all done as well as they can with what they have. Demanding change now may be missing the point. Daniel may be wedded to a dominant footballing philosophy that flourishes exclusively against the weaker. Stuart may have ‘done different’ one too many times and succumbed to the - often wonderful - religious fervour of a new Messiah. Delia may be right to rail against the dreadful capitalism of the whole thing….but…. …Maths is a terrible adversary however and all the numbers are against us with what we have. Unpicking the stitching in the dugout changes little if the over-arching fundamentals remain the same. Farke may be the lightning rod, Webber may seek pastures new and trade off well-earned previous glories, Delia may cling on with an ever-tighter grip like Miss Haversham in the crumbling manor…but what then? Does the cycle repeat….the wonderful, awful pain and joy of yo-yo greatness and awfulness? The railing against Murdoch’s millions while gobbling it up so it can be dribbled away to pay for the inevitable annual millions lost in the Championship? Farke has an array of good players, though he has no weapons. Even Pukki is emasculated without Buendia. Of course when you have one or two weapons you are dependent. Of course you are one injury away from a real issue. Though even that wily old warhorse Steve Bruce - no-ones favourite for favourite manager of the year - essentially builds a solid, effective team then ‘gives the ball to the lad Saint-Maximin’ while the others players sit tight, watch and applaud. It is an effective strategy for the job at hand. Newcastle stay up comfortably (also not enough for fans of course, one must ever move forwards..such is top level sport). Unless you are a truly wealthy, incredible team you cannot hold many weapons for long though. Though the magpies do keep Saint-Maximin, Spurs do not sell Kane and nobody - but nobody - sells such a weapon at the point of promotion. Norwich are hamstrung by their ownership model. Self-sustaining to an absolutist degree is an extraordinary strategy in football. There is no money. Self-sustaining is not a philosophy or a laudable guiding principle, it is borne of necessity. Everything - selling Buendia included - flows from there. Unless Delia gives the shares away or bequeathes them to a group or individual, then they must be bought. They do have a value. Let us say that the club is worth £100m. To buy 65% of the club, an investor, new benefactor, lottery winner must spend £65m on a nameplate. Before anything else happens. £65m spent and not a single loan left back added yet. No wonder there ‘is no queue of investors lining Carrow Road’. So this is it. This is where the maths ends up and the road we tread again. Farke is a red herring. Sacking the manager changes nothing. I’m not even sure that 2 or 3 ardent fans would agree on what our best xi is, what shape it should be, where our best weapons are. I’m afraid simply railing that ‘we should get after them more’….or ‘we don’t go at teams from the off’ … or ..’we need to want it more’ is pointless, worthless nonsense. We have spent Buendia on a lot of players who are better than we had before and a lot less not-as-good-as-everyone-else’s. Though we don’t have anything now to really hurt teams tactically with. ‘Both boxes’ as the old boys used to say. Our failure is a cascading collection of small weaknesses and inter-connecting sticking plasters to cover the gaping wound of lack of finance. All of it is understandable. If we really want to ‘do different’ it is time to reach out to the SME world, to the Tifosys trading ground bond supporters, small investors, loyal individuals and create a genuinely inclusive French-Shared-Mortgage model whereby the small slices of ownership fluctuate according to investment size at any given moment. Whereby any small (vetted) investor gets a marketing share of brand usage, whereby the community and collective spirit is honourably leveraged to create a membership-style model that would truly be a fitting legacy to Delia’s wonderful era. She herself could and should be a major part going forwards. Like it or not, intended or not, the club has become a massively appreciated asset. It’s value has increased maybe tenfold from the very welcome, though contextually small investment of (anecdotally) £10m or less. The majority of the £100m is now Delia’s. She can hand it down to Tom. He can keep it or cash it in. Maybe it is a theoretical £100m that never sees the light of day. If you ask for that money from an investor, I would be reasonably sure it would never materialise. The ‘doors are open’ offer to sell is thus a somewhat theoretical one. It also would have no benefit to Norwich City. Not a pound would enter the club from such a share sale. Something of a circular reference self-fulfilling prophecy then…. ..and so we have 20 odd good players and no Buendia. Nor any Skipp. Nor any points. Not really an accident at all. Parma
  5. 28 points
    By popular demand....well by one person anyway..... Just got back from the match and not read anything on here and couldn't listen to canary call, so all I've seen or heard was a rather shabby BBC report on Radio 5 that declared Burnley had chances to win the match, which implied that we didn't, which is a travesty of the situation. My thoughts? As a performance I thought it was gutsy, feisty, hard fought, passionate, at times exciting and we could and maybe should have scored. Totally deserved the point and the fans loved it with the relief of finally getting a point and seeing a really good performance. So good performances all over the pitch, Normann, Kabak and Gianoulis caught the eye particularly - and Rashica when he came on when he gave their left back a torrid time. You could see Sargent gives absolutely 100% too and was a handful and good at pressing and tracking back. Late in the second half Kabak and Sargent both had gutsy runs which really lifted the fans and showed intent - and there were two good shots from Aarons and Lees-Melou in the first half. Normann was excellent, drawing a good save from the Burnely goalie and he hit the bar with a cross shot - he looks a real player. If you compared this game to two years ago when were bullied to a 2-0 loss, this was quite the opposite. We were well up to the physical challenge today, which was really good to see. No bullying by Burnley then - we simply met them head on - and overall it was a good lively 0-0. There were faults, of course, too many misplaced passes still, looked a bit nervy passing around at the back - but we had a safety first policy in place where Krul quite often kicked long, so mixing it up a bit, which I thought was good practice and made us a bit less predictable at the back - Burnley could not afford to press too much as a result. Their penalty shouts were dealt with well by the ref - there was one that might have been given had their player not been running away from the goal at the time, but overall the decisions looked fair for both teams and the ref looked to me as if he was trying to let the game flow. Farke summed it up at the end when he came over to our cheering fans with his hand over his heart. It was that kind of game and we did very well under the circumstances of having no points and with confidence low, to battle and give as good as we got - and with a bit of luck migt have even got all three points. I've probably missed out some important stuff, but being my first match for quite some time, I enjoyed every minute of it - the team turned up and gave us the performance we wanted to see - and the fans were brilliant too. We're up and running! OTBC
  6. 28 points
    What the **** is wrong with you idiots? The day before the season starts and we're putting down our players with this sort of ****ing nonsense? Un-****ing-believable.
  7. 26 points
    Perhaps it was the excitement of being back or maybe just the relief of coming safely through a dark place but when I climbed the stairs behind the River End goal and gazed down upon a resplendant Carrow Road, I didn't think that I was alone in feeling a lump in my throat and a tear in my eye. All around me, people were renewing old aquaintances but it was sad to learn that one or two old faces had fallen by the wayside. Happily for the great majority of us life goes on and face another season of trials and tribulations in the one love that unites all who share the faith of the Yellow and Green. Here in Norwich it had been a fine sunny morning but it clouded over about midday and by kick off time it was heavily overcast though still quite warm. The team was pretty much as expected with Hanley returning to the centre of defence and the new boys Raschica, Lees-Melou and Gilmour getting the nod. When City kicked off towards the Barclay End the crowd was as loud as I have ever heard it since the '59 cup run days when there were 38k giving it the full treatment. The early moments were encouraging with City confidently knocking the ball about and retaining possession for a long period but without looking threatening. Liverpool took a while to settle but Mane was looking very lively when getting in behind Max Aarons. By the tenth minute the visitors began to assert a measure of control in midfield and City conceeded a couple of corners as they gave ground. From the second, the ball was worked back in and Krul had to react quickly to palm Jota's header over the bar. City eventually clicked into gear when Rashica raced away on the left but his cross could find niether Pukki nor Cantwell. Play moved from end to end with neat interpassing from both sides although it was always obvious that the Reds carried the greater threat as Salah volleyed one a yard wide. Not to be outdone, Aarons slipped Pukki through in the righthand channel and his fierce shot was parried away for a corner by Alison. City kept the pressure on for a while but things came to nothing when the Liverpool keeper cut out Raschica's cross. It was now mainly Liverpool in the ascendancy as Salah again tested Krul with a stinging drive but again City came back when Cantwell pounced on a mistake and tried to catch Alison out withan outrageous lob from the right wing. The first goal was obviously going to be important and when it came there was more than a touch of good fortune about it. A ball in from the Liverpool right appeared to bounce off Salah and fall nicely between Hanley and Gibson for Jota to stroke the ball under Krul's despairing dive. It was a touch unlucky but Liverpool had certainly looked the more likely and for the next few minutes it was all hands to the pump to prevent the rampant visitors from extending the lead. Lees-Melou cleared from near the line as Van Djyk poked the ball goalwards and one or two last ditch tackles from Aarons and Hanley saved the day. City got through to the break without further damage but you could already see that getting anything out of this game was a fairly long shot. When we resumed, things continued in much the same vein with Liverpool bossing the centre of the pitch and Aarons had to be sharp to clear away Mane's effort with Krul beaten. Gilmour impressed with some good long range passes but despite periods of neat play the home attacks carried little in the way of a sharp edge. Just after the hour mark Firmino came on for Jota and as another City attack broke down a lovely flowing move stretched the home reaguard to breaking point as Salah set up Firmino for a tap in. It was all over bar the shouting when ten minutes later, Salah wrapped up the scoring with a rasping drive when City failed to clear. To their credit the home side refused to wilt and when Pukki and Raschica made way for Sargent and Idah, there were a couple of close things. Sargents late cross shot was only just wide of the far post and with four minutes left in an almighty scramble on the Liverpool six yard line neither Sargent nor Idah could force the ball past Alison before the big Liverpool keeper managed to claw it away. A disappointing result but make no mistake this is a top class Liverpool side and with Van Djyk back they are a force to be reckoned with. All the City new boys looked decent but will take time to bed in and will find much easier games than this as the season progresses. A nice range of passing from Gilmour and touches of exciting pace from Rashica give hope for the future and Josh Sargent showed enough in his short cameo to see that he has something about him. All things considered it was wonderful to be back at a full CR and I am not going to get too depressed at this result, there's still a long long way to go. Grant Hanley my MOM, played a real captains game.
  8. 25 points
    Saudi money - on the back of misogyny, beheadings, bombing and starving the poor country next door, and generating the extreme form of Islamism that led to 9-11 I’ll stick with Delia
  9. 24 points
    Words from the boss on this signing - Head coach Daniel Farke said: “We’re really happy to have Josh with us. He’s at a young age with lots of potential. There was a lot of interest in him, so we must pay many compliments to Stuart Webber for getting this deal done. “Josh has a lot of experience in the top level in the Bundesliga in Germany and has been there with many goals and assists. He has also scored goals for his national team. “He’s a very good striking option for us but is someone who can also play on the wing. He has pace and is also good with his head. We know he is always there with a big workload and has a fantastic character. His left foot is complete and utter shoite as rightly pointed out by a fan who watched a 3 minute video, but we really like his right duke. “We know we have to be a bit more creative in the transfer market. We think we have a player in Josh who can contribute and develop into a top goalscorer on Premier League level. We see his potential and are delighted to have him with us.”
  10. 24 points
    Afternoon guys...Good to see you back. Looking forward to seeing you again this year as you play decent football and nobody needs any more West Brom's in the PL! Chelsea fan here as expected coming on to wish you all the best with Billy G. You have secured a gem and if he stays injury free you will see the quality immediately in the same way that James Maddison shone - in truth I am really shocked we loaned him out. Billy has amazing awareness for his age and you will quickly see his head is constantly on a swivel and most importantly he is always looking to keep possession but play forward wherever possible. His anticipation of space is superb and he hardly ever gives possession away. Defensively he is rarely caught out and was easily MOTM against Liverpool last year - no mean feat with those 2 midfields! He is mobile and likes to dominate the central third of the pitch and will link your play together and impact every aspect of your team play. He has been compared to Kante but I don't see that myself as he doesn't run with the ball in the way Ngolo does but If I had to find a comparison for him I would genuinely say he reminds me of a young Paul Scholes. Before I'm physically attacked clearly he needs to add goals to be in the frame with a great like Scholes but he has everything else and operates in a similar fashion. He now needs to add those forward runs that Scholes and Lamps were masters at and I'm hoping to see him develop with your team this year. You certainly play the way that should allow him to flourish. Wishing you all the best for the season guys - a proper club, proper ground and that Delia clip still makes me smile every time! Chatting to a mate of mine he said he would compare Billy to Modric in his early days at Spurs...well, if he becomes half the player Luka did I'd take that!
  11. 23 points
    I find it astonishing some on here can't see that we're having to do what we can to build a bit of confidence and momentum back into the squad. People complained repeatedly that all we do against Burnley is get bullied and lose 2-0. Look at the prediction threads. Then we go and actually match up physically to them, and the complaints are that we aren't playing liquid football. I actually can't believe it needs explaining that to play the style of football we do and play two wingers etc requires a certain level of confidence. We need to get that back before we think we have the right to go and play through teams.
  12. 23 points
    That'd be us. Gunn Williams - Gibson - Kabak - Gianoullis Lees Melou - Normann - Gilmour Rashica - Sargent - Tzolis Good grief - there's never been a transfer window even remotely like it before.
  13. 23 points
    I hope every fan will support the players in taking the knee on saturday. If, for whatever reason, you find the act objectionable I hope you will at least remain respectfully silent and not bring shame to the club by booing.
  14. 23 points
  15. 22 points
    Is there anyone now still in doubt that the project is not working as it was intended? The reputation our club has been developing since Webber/Farke arrived has now reached the stage where we can attract AND afford not just good young players, but the best young players. The two go hand in hand - attract and afford. Ya da ya da, I know we've not kicked a ball yet this season, I know we haven't got super rich owners, I know we hint bought a CB etc etc - but to say the project is not working would be a bit churlish imo. Yes, we could still get relegated, but yes, we could stay up and yes we could even do a lot better than just stay up, but to me this transfer window has been a vindication of the policies adopted by the club - to make us the club to go to if you are young and want to develop your career. It started even before Farke/Webber with attracting Maddison to the club and the bringing through of the Murphy twins so it is not a new idea and we were already recognised as a good club to go to, but in four years we have gone from being on a one way road to nowhere financially with an aging squad with huge contracts to pay, to a club totally at ease with itself financially, playing great football and attracting the best young players available from around the world. Beautiful football, stable and effective management, togetherness on and off the pitch, improving finances with getting the best young talent that will get more big money transfers later on to improve finances to be able to do even more...... I mean - what's not to like??
  16. 22 points
    Norwich supporters, as a Werder Bremen supporter I felt the need to come see what the reaction to this singing was amongst Norwich supporters and I have seen many many misconceptions about the type of player Sargent is based on YouTube highlight films so I have decided to comment. He is a fast player, despite what many in this forum have said, he regularly reaches 31+ km/h which is among the fastest in the Bundesliga. Secondly he is like a wind up toy, he never stops running and pressing, in fact, due to our poor offensive play last year, Sargent creating turnovers was often our greatest source of goal scoring chances. Also, he rarely rarely got the chance to play at striker, and is often a second striker or wide midfielder tasked with tracking all over the pitch. I have watched him with USA and with them he shows the ability to run at players and beat players with his dribble, something he didn’t have the chance to do often at Bremen. When I saw him play for the US against Northern Ireland, I simply couldn’t believe how good his dribble and passing was and what chances he created with those skills. That is something almost foreign to my Bremen over the past few seasons. Lastly he is tall and strong, very good in Ariel battles, not just shooting with his head, but also winning possession for his team. His finishing can let him down it is true, but with the chance to play as a striker and train with a excellent manager day in day out he can surely improve, since he is known to fellow German fans and other players in the bundesliga for his proper attitude and desire to improve. Certainly he is not a perfect player, but in my mind he fits the premier league style like a glove and is young. Basically all this to say I think he’s a good transfer for Norwich. And I’ll will miss him at Bremen. Also, Sorry for such an essay, sorry also for my English skills.
  17. 21 points
  18. 21 points
    To perform an extremely complex operation to remove Ivan Toney from Grant Hanley's pocket.
  19. 21 points
    Just to put peoples minds at rest I've just contacted Darren and he's ok, just going through difficult times, he will appreciate all the love & concern shown to him.
  20. 20 points
  21. 20 points
    Would be nice if we could avoid it on this board for more than a couple of days to be honest.
  22. 20 points
    The general public are f*cking idiots. I couldn't give a t*ss what they think - let's be honest, there is a 90% chance at least that whatever they're saying is wrong.
  23. 19 points
    He's spot on. The ignorant, moronic, lack or respect Rupp gets on here and social media is shameful. Actually watch the games. Watch him. Farke has laid out why he's picked on a plate now. Even the most ignorant fan can now see exactly why he's picked and what he does.
  24. 19 points
    Much like we aren't playing Man City every game we aren't playing a hacked up Bournemouth. This place is insane sometimes.
  25. 19 points
    It is difficult question to answer based on just one game however there are several reasons why we might hope to stay up. 1. We matched Liverpool for possession and pass completion. 2. We were able to play through their press. 3. We created 12 shooting opportunities even though we didn't establish a territorial advantage. Indeed all the indicators suggest that we can play counter attacking football at this level. 4. 3-0 was not a fair reflection of the relative dominance of Liverpool and the scoreline flattered Klopp's side somewhat. The first goal was fortunate for them albeit well taken and finished through our keepers legs, the second two goals were a combination of Liverpool's skill and strength in depth and our own defensive awareness. Up until the first goal Klopp was looking nervous and agitated as his side were unable to dominate the game as they might have expected. 5. At no point did we look as though we didn't deserve to be on the same pitch as them. 6. On several occasions we played right through them and were only lacking the final ball, passing option or finish. 7. Our defensive line were able to match the attacking play in the 1v1 verses the Liverpool's attacking players. None of our back 4 was "owned" by the opposition. Based on one game only it would seem that we have a lot more to come particularly once Pukki is fully fit and Rashica, Sargent and Tzolis are more fully integrated into the team. With more precision in the final third and more depth to the available playing squad, based on this performance we should be able to get the nine or ten wins that will keep us up. Bonzo's bowl is half full.
  26. 18 points
    Fair credit to the board. Those two signings have turned this into a very solid transfer window indeed- perhaps the best I can remember on paper. Bravo Webber two days have totally plugged the gaps. My bad for doubting! Don’t know much (anything) about Normann but hope he is the CDM we are crying out for. Kabak is a huge signing for us- marquee.
  27. 18 points
    It was his family who told him it was closer.
  28. 18 points
  29. 18 points
    The best players will usually move on - not always, though. We kept Hucks, Hoolahan and Holt in recent years. Others only moved because we couldn't afford them (Ruddy, for instance). Relatively few moved because we needed them to move to get the transfer fee; most move to better themselves. There isn't a team in the UK who can keep a player who can move on to a better team - even Liverpool and Man Utd lose players to Barcelona or Real Madrid. We can't ignore where we are in the football pyramid but what we can do is make our club one of THE places in the world that people want to buy young and upcoming players from. Like Southampton used to be before they decided to virtually can their academy. Players like Soto and Silani have joined Norwich City for a reason. If we go up will it be any different? Doubtful that most of our team will be that different, but I can see the likes of Dowell, Placheta, Sorensen etc stepping up a level or two. We have to concentrate on what we can do that others can't - Chelsea are struggling to replicate a little bit of our type of plan because they have to win trophies while they are doing it. For that reason, the rest of the top 10 or 12 in the EPL also can't do it. They try to buy young talent for £20m because they can't wait for their own academies to produce players. Hudson-Odoi on £100k a week hardly gets a game. He's financially set for life, an England player, but as a footballer his career is going nowhere and in 20 years time no one will remember he existed. Think Jack Rodwell, Scott Sinclair etc - what a waste! Jack Clarke at Tottenham; Daniel James at Man Utd - the wrong moves for both of them, with agents who don't act in their clients best interest. Man Utd have dozens of 19 and 20 year olds on their books who have never got near their first team, in the hope that just one might one day show something. Those players could join clubs like ours to develop so that when they're 23 they can slot into that first team, having shown they can do it at the top of the Champs or the bottom of the EPL. That's what we do. Josh Martin and Matthew Dennis used to be at Arsenal, but they couldn't give them the development we can. Both will be worth millions in two or three years time. We've bought Mumba, Adshead, Fitzpatrick, Mair etc because they will develop into proper players. Some won't even make it with us - but lots will. Is it enough to make us an "established EPL team"? I don't know - but it's probably the only way we can be one, so let's have a go. That's what I call ambition.
  30. 17 points
    I didn't see the team sheet until after I arrived at the ground today and my first thoughts were that it looked a bit safety first and Hughtonesque, but my spirits were raised when we won the toss and decided to kick what I always insist is the "Proper Way", ie River End second half. Historically I reckon it has always served us best. It was rather disappointing once again to see the visitors dominating the opening exchanges with City barely able to get a touch of the ball and apart from one long ball up to Sargent the ball was rarely out of the home area in the first ten minutes. Unfortunately the Brighton defence was able to snuff out the danger before he could pull the trigger. Just before the quarter hour however there was a decent spell down the left and this time Sargent did get an effort infrom the edge of the box which was deflected for a corner. The game became more even for a time with both sides trading corners which came to nothing. High balls into the box seemed a wasteful exercise with a couple of real giants in the visitors back line. After a lull Brighton again got on the front foot and a goal looked certain when City failed to clear their area and Krul had to make two exellent parries from close range before the ball was hoofed clear. Then minutes later and still under pressure, a deflected ball seemed to bouce nicely for Maupay as he got in front of Hanley. He went to take the ball wide of the advancing Krul and from my position above and to the right of goal it did look like he was clipped but he certainly dived theatrically. Now I haven't seen the VAR but I was relieved and a bit surprised that it wasn't a penalty. From here on I was just hoping we could make it to halftime without conceeding because we were definitely second best for most of the first forty five. Right on the stroke of halftime however City should have gone in front. After exerting a little bit of pressure Brighton were looking to clear but good work by Sargent caused a mistake and he emerged with the ball between the goalkeeper and a defender and simply had to stroke the ball into any empty net. It was on target but with nowhere near enough power behind it and it was easily hooked away. It was a golden chance but on balance all square was a better reflection of the play than seemed likely earier. From the whistle City began to get a bit more of the ball and a few minutes in they broke at speed down the centre. Pukki's ball inside to Sargent looked perfect and I was half out of my seat only to sit down sharply as Sargent's awful first touch ruined what should have been a great opening. From here on it was hard graft as play swung from end to end. Brighton still had plenty of the ball but City looked resolute at the back so chances were at a premium. Normann showed up with a couple of lovely long passes out to the wings but neither side could get anything clear cut on goal. Gibson banged a twenty-five yarder but Sanchez always looked favourite. Rashica came on for Sargent with fifteen minutes left and as we moved into the last ten he latched on to Normanns pass and sent Pukki away on goal only for a Brighton defender to get in a fantastic block just as the City "Main Man" went to pull the trigger. City were certainly worth a point but they nearly lost it when Maupay finally got some space but somehow scooped the ball over the top. In the end just a point and probably a fair result, however Sargent will likely be replaying that moment in his mind well into the early hours. Pukki, very sharp today, just a shame the two best chances didn't fall his way. Lees-Malou, best game so far, Normann, exellent but I'm giving my MOM to Grant Hanley. Stuck Maupay on his **** a few times and generally was a rock in the middle. Onward and upward.
  31. 17 points
    I'd still rather stick with Delia.
  32. 17 points
    Cook has installed some kind of next level brilliance into them. We should be paying him more than 20 quid a month, surely?
  33. 17 points
    Go on, say it. Go on. Say the line Delia haters
  34. 17 points
    Yes please do check, it's really important, if you find something most of the time it is absolutely nothing but it is always worth getting a GP to check you over and get a scan if necessary. If it does pan out to be something, then the earlier you get diagnosed the better. I was unfortunate enough to find a lump last year, and to be honest I went to the doctor later than I should have done. Hearing those words after I had a scan at the hospital will never ever leave me, but I have to say from that point onwards the NHS were AMAZING. Within a week I had had an operation to remove the cancer, had a scan which confirmed nothing had spread (hopefully that continues to be the case, I have blood tests and scans to keep a track on things), and then a little bit of chemo in early December to try and prevent anything nasty coming back. Luckily the chemo wasn't too rough and I was pretty much back to normal by Christmas. I'm not going to lie, it was a horrible time, but the staff at the hospital, the Macmillan nurses, and of course my family got me through it. I hope everyone has a quick check tonight, and just remember if you are diagnosed with testicular cancer it has an amazing survival rate and there are plenty of other men out there who have been through it. If anyone is ever worried, then please give me a shout as I'm more than happy to lend an ear or speak through my experience.
  35. 17 points
    Ok, I’ll have my say. Firstly, I fully support the stance that our club and all others are taking. The abuse that players are subjected to is ridiculous and unacceptable. Platforms need to do more to prevent it and act upon it when it does take place. It isn’t just football, jockeys take some horrible guff from people talking through, normally, their pocket. It isn’t just in the sporting arena either. If people wish to join in and stay off social media then I understand that and why they want to show solidarity. I also understand that for a lot of people social media has been a lifeline in difficult times and allowed them to stay in touch with people they haven’t been able to socialise with in person. If they wish to continue to do so over the weekend, I am absolutely fine with that too. Hopefully it makes us all consider what we post a little bit more and how what we say could impact others. We can all do better. Finally, I’m disappointed that on a thread discussing this matter and actions taken (or not) against people that post abuse against others, the thread originator has elected to call my Dad a t w a t, a shoite stirrer and then proceeded to launch a character assassination on him and his motives for fundraising. You don’t like him. That’s your prerogative. However, I will point out that I know him far better than you Greavsy and a more selfless and genuine person you couldn’t wish to meet. He ran events for many years to raise money for EACH and, along with Ray and others, has given up his time and effort to raise funds for, initially, the Academy when funding was needed and subsequently for the CSF. The reason he did those things and continues to do them, is that he cares deeply about these causes and others. If you think him “banging on about it” is some exercise in narcissism, you are way wide of the mark. He HAS to keep “banging on” because without people (like you and I) making selections and contributing, it will fall on its face. The money raised is important and facilitates great things for a charity looking to offer opportunities to folk that otherwise might not have them. Of course, I am biased. He’s my Father. That said, I find your comments offensive, abusive and completely unjustified and unsubstantiated. Given the amount of people that donate, sponsor and contribute to the fundraising you find so narcissistic, it must amaze you that you find yourself in a minority of one. I’d politely suggest that you retract. Especially given the subject matter of this thread. I hope you’re big enough to do so.
  36. 17 points
    I'd say "not the best time to be playing Norwich"
  37. 16 points
    I have supported Norwich for over 50 years, and I don’t think I have been as ashamed of some of our supporters than after the Watford game. The utter drivel I read on various social media accounts, the booing at the end of the game. And yes before you start I was there. Shouts of “”Farke doesn’t know what he is doing” even as far as “Farke out”. Lower your heads in shame, myopic, lacking in perspective garbage. 7 of those players yesterday who were on the pitch did not play for us last year, 2 were making their debuts. There was signs of promise, but yes it was a bit disappointing the result, but what you expect throw everything up in the air and expect it to fall down on the ground perfectly and gel, it won’t happen!! Blaming Farke is naive and moronic !! Some of you should just go support the shi— te down the road. Pathetic - be careful what you wish for city fans!!!
  38. 16 points
    And just when I thought we had already reached the bottom of how silly posts there can be. So, you'd really want one of our best performers in the match to give public apology that he had run out of steam to cover fullback who played himself out? After his first game here? Really?
  39. 16 points
    We arrived well before time and with our CR codes at the ready but nobody asked to see them and there were still long queues to get in. Once seated I had a look at the team selection and could only surmise that the manager had thrown all the names into the Tombola machine again. It was a pleasant Autumn afternoon as City kicked off towards the River End but from the early moments it was plain that Watford were not there to just make up the numbers. A couple of dangerous corners were weathered but I was instantly struck by the amount of room the visitors were allowed on both wings. Sarr especially was a real handful down the right and you could see that Williams was in for a busy afternoon. City threatened when a low free kick skipped right through the Watford defence without Pukki or Sargent being able to make contact and a minute later Raschica's cross skidded off Sargents boot as the big striker stretced to make contact. The visitors were certainly very physical and had little compunction in stepping outside the laws of the game whenever City tried to build from midfield. Just before the quarter hour Normann had a long range free kick comfortably saved by Foster which in truth was overly ambitious. I was hoping to see City exert a measure of control now that we were playing the lesser lights but if anything it was Watford that had the edge and proved it in the 18th minute with a fine headed goal by Dennis. The ball was neatly passed about on the right before Cleverley picked out his man with a fine cross. It was deflating for the crowd who had begun in good voice and it was a while before City regained some composure. There was some neat play at times with Gilmour pushing the ball about nicely but a complete lack of any goalmouth action down our end was very worrying. Sargent was putting a lot of effort into the game and showed perhaps a spark of getting on the same wavelength as Pukki at times but it was Normann who made the telling contribution when the equaliser came. On 35 minutes a wonderful ball was lifted over a defender for the City Talisman to race clear on the right of the area and slot the ball past the advancing Foster for 1-1. It was fairly even from here to the interval although Tim Krul had to make a good save to deflect the ball for a corner as City were almost undone by a late counter attack. At the interval I had to agree with my son that on balance we were a little fortunate to be level and what we had seen was a little less than we had hoped for. If Watford are one of the poorer teams then this was indeed a bad sign that we were in for a very long season. From the whistle the home side came forward with much more purpose and the visitors defence was all hands to the pump for several minutes. A couple of corners were won and a shot charged down in a bit of a scramble but it couldn't be sustained as Watford began to look lively again. Just after the hour King, found himself in acres of space twenty yards from goal, a run and a quick cut back and there was Sarr to net from close range. Deeply depressing to be caught so wide open again. Approaching 70 minutes it was clear that changes were imminent as Cantwell and Tzolis waited to come on. You could have knocked me down with a feather when the changes were announced with Sargent and Norman coming off.. A highly physical game against a very physical opponent and we take off the two players who appeared best placed to stand up to it. I couldn't have been more surprised if Tim Krul had been hauled off. My son remarked "well thats it, game over", while I just shook my head. City huffed and puffed with some neat passing that might have broken down a Championship side but never looked like causing Watford any concern. All that remained was for Watford to break swiftly again and Sarr to net his second. I thought there was an offside in the build up and the lino did raise his flag but the longer the check went on the more obvious the decision. It looked a lot like men against boys the last time we were in this league and on todays performance it is very difficult to dress it up as anything better this time round. Its been a hard start but this surely was a game where we would be able to judge the quality of our recent additons and get some idea of our chances in this league. To be brutally honest I don't have much confidence in either at present. Gilmour decent, put himself about, Norman, some gorgeous long passes, Sargent, very industrious and will certainly become a favourite. There was plenty of effort, shame about the boo's at the end. While there's life there's hope.
  40. 16 points
    Haven’t seen a thread dedicated to him so thought I’d make one, thought he was immense today, definitely the standout performer. So sharp in possession, several times skipping past players and nearly always finding a yellow shirt, as well as having such an engine on him tracking back, he seemed to win nearly all of his 50/50 battles. The guy has just got better and better since signing and he looks like he’ll be a real asset for us this season.
  41. 16 points
    Hey everyone, Greek PAOK fan here, Tzolis for a ten piece is such a bargain that it will probably begin a revolution in Thessaloniki, but props to you for taking such a talented young player for such a pricetag. He is considered the biggest offensive talent in the last 30 years in Greece. The guy used to be a striker and has an amazing sense of goal scoring, has very good technique, but is not extremely fast and does not defend very well as a winger. but with Giannoulis they were an amazing duo at the left. We were expecting a little bit less than the double of that for him, but the huge contract you are offering and the opportunity to play in Premier league rung some bells in his head, and it is whispered here and there that the signing is inevitable. In last year's Europa league qualifiers matches, you can see Giannoulis and Tzolis demolishing the defenses of Benfica and Besiktas, two arguably very strong clubs in European football
  42. 16 points
  43. 16 points
  44. 16 points
    That I really, really, really miss not being at Carrow Road.
  45. 16 points
    It's also about time that Ed Balls was given the credit he is due for his major part in transforming the club. Many on this site have pilloried him for no more reason than he was an ex-Labour Party minister. The reality is he worked voluntarily as chairman playing a major role in turning the club into an organisation that is run on economic and footballing principles that are the envy of very many clubs. I remember very well the long interview he gave on Radio Norfolk explaining that the club would take its time to completely rethink it's structure for the next managerial appointment after Alan Irving. Can anyone genuinely claim that he didn't do an incredible job in planning the subsequent Sporting Director and Head Coach structure, and appointing exceptional individuals to those posts? The man is Norwich City through-and-through, and I for one thank him heartily for the exceptional work he did in playing such a major role transforming the club to its present eminent position.
  46. 16 points
    I am guessing one of them was coming off for Zimbo, but given we don't exactly have an excess of strikers at the moment you can understand why Farke was reticent to yank both of them off at the same time. Indeed, if you look at the last 25 minutes when we had nobody capable of occupying the Stoke back 4 I think you can probably answer you own question. Still, I suspect that had Farke taken both off and we had gone on to draw or lose the game you would probably be criticising him anyway Jim for taking off two players who had been exceptional up until that point. As an actual manager who has to make decisions under pressure he does not really have the benefit of hindsight we all do. Given we have taken 23 from the last 27 points, sitting top, coming off the back of a horrendous season, perhaps best to give Farke the benefit of the doubt and concede it's not always as cut and dried as we fans like to make out.
  47. 16 points
  48. 15 points
    This opening post is one of the top reasons it's best to stay away from this forum after a disappointing result. A narrow loss influenced again by a shoddy decision, four matches against four fancied teams (3 reckoned to be teams at least aiming for Europe or top 6, arguably all 4 of them) and we are looking at or contemplating changing the manager. Talk about a lack of patience. Imagine thinking like this 4 games into 38. Not even 19 games, not even 10!
  49. 15 points
    I've got one. The first half is the first 4 letters of our name and the 2nd half is the last 3 letters of their name.
  50. 15 points
    "Norwich City have reportedly joined the race to sign Schalke striker Matthew Hoppe." https://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/sport/norwich-city/norwich-city-linked-matthew-hoppe-schalke-7833378 Hoppe, Skipp and Rupp. That'll do.
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