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  1. 60 points
    I've just logged on again to express a big thank you to everyone who posted condolences or sent personal messages to me after my recent sad loss. It really was very much appreciated. I haven't been to Carrow Road since before the World Cup break and have again given my ticket away for tonights match. At the moment its very much about taking one day at a time but my great grandson has said he will come with me when I want to go back, so I may give it a go next week for the Watford game. He is a keen footballer himself and plays in the under 15's Sunday Youth League but I'm not sure if he bleeds yellow and green quite yet. I expect this will be my new project.
  2. 49 points
    Hi all, This is Wooster’s daughter. I’m not too sure if I’m posting this in the correct place but I know my Dad had some friends on here and I just wanted to let you all know of his sad passing on Sunday morning. It has been a shock to all of us as we hoped he would have many more years left. I just thought I should let you all know how much he enjoyed the forum and hearing from all of you. He’d always tell me of the fundraisers you’d do together and the laughs he had with you all. I know he’ll be celebrating Norwich’s win up there. All the best to you all
  3. 47 points
    Good evening users of the Pink Un messageboard. I am saddened that I have been forced to resort to such a drastic and unnecessary measure in response to what is a continued and persistent decline in behavioural standards on this forum. It has drifted on for far too long. Since Pete stepped aside, we've tried to adopt a lighter touch in moderation on this platform in the hope that adults could be trusted to be responsible with what they are posting and how they are conversing, treating and behaving with fellow users. Clearly, this is no longer possible due to a minority of users who continue to use this platform unacceptably. This should serve as a final warning to everyone on this platform - clean up your act. From here, we will be taking a no-nonsense approach to those who overstep the mark. They will be issued with instant and irreversible bans. We've been very lenient with second, and in some cases, even third warnings. Clearly, that isn't having the desired effect. As a result, we will be reviewing this platform very carefully in the next few weeks. If nothing changes, we will be left with little choice but to consider it's future viability. This is not a step that we want or should have to take - but the behaviour on here by a minority of users will not be allowed to continue. This forum is designed for debate around Norwich City and other topics in the world. It should be a place for contrasting views and opinions - but that should never overstep the mark. At the moment, too often, it is. Some of the posts we are seeing are defamatory, personal and unnecessary. We are all adults. Please take a moment to reflect on your individual behaviour and whether it is meeting the standards you would do in everyday society. If anyone suffers this, then please make the moderation team aware and use the report button. We can then take it from there. Clean it up or face a ban. That is the situation. We thank those posters and users of the messageboard who are using it as intended. Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Pink Un Team
  4. 46 points
    Here's an idea: if you want to support a club owned by billionaires who pay ludicrous transfer fees and wages, why don't you bore off and support Man City (or just about any established Premier League club). I'm immensely proud to support a self-sufficient club who buck the trend. I'd be pretty devastated if we started spaffing money up the wall when we've worked so hard to recover from the last time we tried that. We're the envy of most clubs outside the Premier League and there are a fair few Championship clubs with far richer owners who would gladly trade places with us. We're arguably one of the best run clubs in the country. I can't fathom why some people don't understand or appreciate that.
  5. 41 points
    Story on their forum here. Norwich fan in and out of consciousness with Police around him (waiting for Ambulance). Sunderland fan, medically trained, stopped and advised Police to check the Norwich fan's pockets, where they found EpiPen's, which the Sunderland fan duly injected into his leg and the fan came round. Well done to that Sunderland fan.
  6. 39 points
    I haven't been to Carrow Road since early November and it felt it bit awkward going back again after recent events. I had a few thoughts about it but my great grandson was keen so away we went on cold but otherwise bright afternoon. I told him to wrap up well but the young don't seem to listen and there he was with no gloves or hat, what can you do? City began with purpose and penned the Hornets back early doors but couldn't find any openings in a crowded penalty area. Sargent appeared to be bundled over from behind but ref Mr Linnington waved away the appeals. When the danger was finally cleared it was Watford who came close to opening their account as Davis cut in from the right and Gunn had to make the save from a narrow angle. It got a bit fiesty in midfield and a bit of play acting set the crowd off as the visitors engaged in some early time wasting. The home side bossed the early possession but most moves broke down before they could breach the eighteen yard line while the visitors were quick to break away as soon as we lost the ball. Indeed, only a wayward shot and a block by McCallum prevented them from going in front. There was plenty of effort and movement but we were unable to sustain enough pressure on the Watford goal where Bachmann was a virtual spectator. We did have the ball in the net after about 35 minutes but Hanley's crisp header was ruled out for offside. It looked close but there weren't many complaints from the players. It was a frustrating half with some decent play at times but the ball seemed to mainly ping about like it was on some pin-ball table and any pressure that the home side could exert was quickly relieved by some swift Watford breaks that had defenders scurrying back to cover. Most of City's good stuff was coming from Max Aarons down the right but he couldn't set anyone up and when he had a go himself his shot was well off target. Just before the break a nice ball from Gibbs put Sargent in on the City left and he might have done better to look for a pass but tried to cut inside and ran into multiple defenders. At the half it looked fairly obvious that this would very likely be a one goal game and it was a toss up as to who would be on the winning end. Nothing seems to be going for us lately so I wasn't greatly encouraged although my great grandson still seemed very positive despite the decling temperature. The second period began much as the first one finished with City attacks breaking down and Watford breakaways causing problems. On 50 minutes the visitors should really have taken the lead as they broke at speed down their left and a header back across goal was almost turned in by Sarr. Somehow a combination of Gunn and a couple of defenders managed to block almost on the line. There had been little to worry Bachmann in the way of shots on goal and it wasn't until well after the hour that Nunez dragged Pukki's set up a yard or so wide of his right post. It seemed to open the game up however and a minute or so later a cute ball from Sara put Sargent through the centre. Bachmann was very quick off his line and collided with the City Striker as the ball flew over the bar. Aarons appeared to be carrying an injury from an earlier tackle and limped off with a quarter hour left to be replaced by Omobamidele. After this we had another bout of Watford players milking the clock and the usual series of dubious reffereeing decisions that have blighted so many games this season. On one occasion a Watford defender appeared to have been shot by someone in the crowd because there wasn't a City player within five yards of him as he spun and collapsed dramatically. Mr Linnington allowed play to run for once and Pukki's pass found Sara who was desperately unlucky to see his shot fly inches wide of the post. Next it was Idah with a strong run across the penalty area and a shot just beyond the far post as City increased the pressure. The visitors were struggling to get the ball away and a poor clearance went straight to Gibbs. Unfortunately his return ball was weak and Watford sprang forward at speed and this time a quick ball in from the left beat covering defenders and Bayo was on hand to turn the ball in from ten yards with only four minutes left. At least the officials were fair with the time wasting and there was no surprise to see nine minutes added. There were a couple of close things as City tried to repair the damage but to be honest in the grand scheme of things an equaliser didn't look likely. I could see my great grandsons teeth were beginning to chatter so I took mercy on him and dodged out two or three minutes before the end. Years of this sort of misery have taught me that I would be unlikely to miss anything and that proved to be the case. I just hope today hasn't put him off because this could go on for quite a while. Football is often a microcosm of life both personally and for Norwich City. It gives us moments of joy and moments of despair and the glowing expectations of August are often dashed and broken by events in December, leaving only a dim light at the end of a long dark tunnel. Experience of life tells me that somewhere off in the distance sunlit uplands will open up again but when that will be and how far away I am unable to say. All that is left is to persevere and to continue to live in hope.
  7. 38 points
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  8. 38 points
    Every now and then something happens in the world of football that reminds me just how sick and broken the game at the top level is. Right now it's Man U fans desperately justifying a Qatari state takeover of the club, acting as if all that matters is money and trophies, talking as if they are some deeply hard done by club on the brink of bankruptcy that needs saving, rather than one of the biggest clubs in the world who occasionally finish 5th rather than 1st now. It's gross watching their fans simp on social media for a repressive theocracy, sticking Qatari flags in their bio while chucking out pointless whataboutery (oh but you own an iphone/subscribe to disney+ etc etc) all in the name of winning a couple more trophies and signing the latest big name from Porto or Bilbao, who they'll throw away the second a shinier toy is available. In the media that usual thing will happen- some of the decent journalists will raise objections (Miguel Delaney, Daniel Storey being good examples) but they'll soon be drowned out by the transfer speculation and the buzz of how the new shiny toys on the pitch will play. And all of this happening while the sprot itself gets a little less competitive and a little bit more financially unsustainable. And it makes me feel a little bit sick that joining this absolute ****show of moral and financial bankruptcy is what we, as a club, have to aspire to. Because otherwise what's the point? I feel like I'm so close to chucking it all in, maybe becoming one of those guys who goes to watch his local non-league team, ignoring the Premier League but then I end up thinking why should I have to walk away from something I've loved because of the decisions of those in charge, over whom I have no influence. Overall, its just all ****ed and I don't know what to do.
  9. 37 points
    Parma’s State of the Nation Farke brought us a precise, carefully-constructed philosophy, using intelligent positional play, Dortmund-esque fan engagement, attractive sporting entertainment, though clear top level failure. Webber - it must be assumed - also implemented this very particular methodology throughout the youth ages. Planning purchases based on that particular style (Or?). Delia - though passionate, loyal and committed - has no ‘football money’, so the self-sustaining model is a top down necessity, as shown by the £5m fan Bond to build the training ground (via the Tifosys finance model). Promotion to premier duly puts Webber in a difficult position: Do we accept the glass ceiling of our model or blame Farke? The external questions were clear: Were the new players good enough for now? Were they investment purchases to appreciate at some future date? The idea - surely - is that as you develop, the risk on buying youth is less, as you pay more, you buy experienced youth playing at higher levels already. Vid Tzolis, Sargent. You try to get a weapon. Vid Rashica (really?). The ‘Pissed up the wall’ window had Klose (longevity, good quality, value), Pinto (longevity, fair quality, value), Naismith (expensive here-and-now investment, Sat on contract, nightmare -£15m), Maddison +£18m, Godfrey +£20m), so an overall window balance of say +£20m? Did we do better than this under the new model? The top level is where we are judged, where our aims are focused as per our attractively-presented 2022 Report. Trotsdem , top level failure occurred despite implanting an excellent, attractive, coherent playing philosophy. Record points totals had been achieved, there was a clear identity, followed by a high spend on new players. The Sporting Director had had plenty of preparation time and a free operational hand. Including with the limited ring-fenced chequebook. Farke (despite recently-signed 4 year contract) was summarily replaced by Smith, who was suddenly available, opportunistically persuaded, so not pre-planned. Both parties fell into each others’ arms via timing. Webber - I think just about understandably - just could not accept that our structural ceiling (financial-operational-sporting) had been reached, plus the further implication that his big investment signings were not successful. He just couldn’t (be seen) to accept either at that point. However history shows that within the parameters of owner finance this was-is as good as we can expect (particularly after first Premier season failure, which was ‘taking the money, to come back stronger next time’) Thus the glass Norwich ceiling was concretised. No further dreaming was possible. Everything that could have been done, was done. Mistakes were perhaps the inevitable product of imperfect financial and sporting compromises. QED Attanasio? Or an acceleration-expansion of his involvement? Nevertheless Sportingly Smith replacing Farke looks like correcting yesterday’s mistakes. Thus everything is a step behind where it should be. Smith immediately tried to solidify an exposed defence, the over-committed midfielders (particularly out of possession). A desire to counter-press effectively, stay-in-shape, not be so vulnerable on transition. The flaw with this approach - which has been endorsed also by the Sporting Director whose *new* vision now also ‘aligns’ - is that the Premier League and the Championship are fundamentally, dramatically, operationally so different from each other. And for very good reason. At the top level you are one of the worst, so you have to defend a lot, so you come under lots of pressure and you lose a lot. So you must be pretty good at defending or have awkward weapons that others have to adjust for. In the second tier you are not punished much for your mistakes (relatively), you don’t need to set up to defend, lots of teams are hard-working but lack quality. And no one has any weapons (really). So you don’t need to defend so much or so well. Farke also knew the above perfectly well. What he did was no accident. As Guardiola has repeatedly stated (including in writing if you read his books), positional play is actually a defensive tool. If you keep possession and ‘do nothing with it’, no one else has it either do they? Passing it backwards and sideways for 90 minutes is a bloody good idea against most top level teams (nil-nil is better than you will do in about 25 games). Of course upon demotion, very few teams can live with positional play. It takes high intelligence and it requires a level of coordinated press and defensive shape to combat, that few teams in the championship have enough players of sufficient intelligence to achieve. So we now have a a pragmatic mercenary journeyman manager that might suit a top level team destined to defend every week and be attritional, with a structure that is hard to break down and shouldn’t get hammered every week (I appreciate that we are not seeing this, though it is-was the intention I believe). The problem is that we are solving yesterday’s problems again. We don’t need to ask the players - say Cantwell - to counter press like marines. You need this at the top level. There are limits to professional footballers (at our level). They cannot chase defensive shape chickens like Gary Holt, then magically make through passes like Buendia a second later. The very, very best can do this (sometimes). We cannot buy them. So we end up neither fish, nor fowl. The irony is that many accused Farke of doing something that needed top level players only. He proved many of you wrong. With coaching, teaching, studying of positional play principles, it spread through the club. It became second nature to many. I would suggest that what Smith is asking for is more geared towards top level players only. Be a machine out of possession, switch to Litmanen cool upon turnover. We’d all love to think we can do that, though try sprinting flat out for 200 metres, then beating the computer at Chess. It’s not really how the brain and body typically operates. Hence we often look disjointed, erratic and play in fits-and-starts. Farke chose a certain compromise. Smith is trying to pretend that no such compromises are necessary. That we can have all things. Furthermore both he and a Webber appear to think that we need ‘to be prepared for the Premier’ in the way we play now. In our current circumstances. I think that this is fundamentally flawed. We need to jump the Championship hurdle - whereby you can attack teams, be expansive and overwhelm opposition if you have Pukki and players who can score regularly - first. This methodology is then proved (within our parameters) not to come close to working at the top level. At which point you need different tactics, a far more mechanical, low-risk, high running, high physicality, couple of expensive and strategically-protected weapons (which is where you spend all your available money). However there is even a further flaw. None of our players would be good enough for the top level anyway (except Pukki who’ll leave shortly anyway). We couldn’t invest enough to buy what we’d need to reframe the squad make up and approach anyway (which would also require a coaching-sporting pivot). So we return to our nexus points. Our sale of Buendia, our sacking of Farke, our huge relative investments strategically in Rashica-Tzolis-Sargent. Our style pivot to a prosaic Smith-headed philosophy - even in the second tier (and is it now through the age groups? Does-can anyone teach positional play anymore?) As fans what do we have? Identity no. Entertainment not really. Continuity not obviously. Clarity of corporate future not yet. Dreams of top level success extinguished. Unique Fan led club no longer. Money no. Investment purchases unnrealised and seemingly mostly unrealisable. Large swathes of too-good-for-Championship yesterday’s men out of contract. A huge pivot on unproven new players that have not obviously improved anything. A much smaller, cheaper squad by necessity-design. We are chasing a chimera. Even success is just expensive and embarrassing. Though in its stead we are drifting into that awful, anonymous, disinterested purgatory of mid-table second tier quicksand. The ‘camels coming down Carrow Road’ were previously dismissed, now the Cowboys are embraced. Despite the planning, sporting strategy and legions of forecasters, it all starts to look a little ‘events dear boy, events’. Parma
  10. 37 points
    Farke acted with sheer class throughout the entire afternoon from the moment he stepped out of the tunnel to take his place in the away dugout to applause from all parts of the ground to refusing to celebrate Leeds 3rd goal as his backroom staff were going ballistic by quietly sitting down. Then at the end he walked over to the Leeds fans and when they were expecting his usual after a win celebration his body language was telling them today is not the day guys and gals. The walk around the pitch applauding all four stands was his goodbye that he never got to have before walking down the tunnel. Hard to remember seeing so many Norwich fans staying behind after a defeat to witness it except of course the directors box bar Tom Smith and the Leeds occupants. The man showed more respect to Norwich and its fans in 10 minutes than Webber has done in about 6 years.
  11. 37 points
    I arrived fairly early tonight and my old friend Roger Smith had already bagged a couple of seats in a nice position. Before proceedings began I had a nice chat with respected Pinkun poster Myra Hawtree, one of the very few who have been supporting this club longer than me. The surprise of the night was to see Mark Attanasio walk in with Delia, something I don't think any of us expected. We kicked off with the now customary slick video, nice but I don't know what it really adds. Then quickly got on with the formal business where all resolutions passed on a show of hands. Tom Smith was chairing tonight and I thought he did it in a very professional manner and later on handled a few slightly difficult moments quite well. On to the Q and A where the first question was obviously the rift between the club and the local media. Zoe explained how the arrangement worked in the past and how in her opinion the press had made unwarranted personal attacks on members of staff. The comparison of Dean Smith to rotting mushrooms was mentioned. There was a plea from the floor to the effect that the relationship needed to be healed which received affirmative applause.👍 There was criticism of Stuart Webbers recruitment and the man himself had the courage to stand up and admit mistakes were his responsibility. He also explained the difficulty of recruiting established Premier players when we had to include a 60% wage reduction if we were relegated. I expect we all wished it were different but wishing won't make it so. The club are looking in to complaints about the new floodlights but the lumination is now controlled by what the broadcasters wanted rather than what suits spectators. However they hoped to make some changes. For those who want the ticket office to reopen for face to face purchases, hard luck, its not going to happen. Tom Smith explained that an expletitive email had been submitted by an unnamed person re the flying of the Pride flag. He rightly stated that the club were totally committed to equality and this again was received with affirmative applause.👍 A question was then asked of Mark Attanasio. There were thanks for his 10 million quid but reservations re the conditions which could see him getting his money back with interest if things didn't go as planned. I was quite impressed with his fullsome relpy and his statement that he was not here to take advantage of the club and supporters. Only time will tell us how this works out. There were questions on fan engagement, betting companies as sponsors, season ticket prices etc and my friend Roger Smith asked the same question he did 20 years ago when we were all hoping for stadium enlargement. Apparantly there is still nothing concrete but the same firm of architects that did Liverpools enlargement are reporting on the feasibility of building over the top of the present main stand. I still expect that I will be long dead before this comes to pass. Stuart Webber said a few words about his close relationship with Daniel Farke and explained why he felt we needed to go in a different direction. The intimation was that being pretty wasn't enough and that we would see a tougher approach from now on from the manager and players. Questions were asked as to why Dean Smith was not in attendance and Zoe had to be corrected that this was not normal practice. To my recollection the manager has always been there to field football related questions, certainly since AGM's have been held in the Norfolk Lounge. Finally there was another plea for peace with the local press from another old guy who used to read the EDP in the outside bog with a candle. Thats about all I can remember.
  12. 37 points
    Thanks for all the great memories. Some of the best and most exciting times supporting Norwich City and some of the best football I've seen us play. Always a gentleman and a fantastic ambassador for the club. Wishing you all the very best for wherever your career takes you next.
  13. 34 points
    Sorry folks, I posted my report at 11pm last night but it got eaten by the 502 Gateway problem and is lost somewhere in the ether. Suffice to say it was a wonderful night of raw emotion. We have only ever clinched promotion in a home match once before. In 1960 I stood in the old Barclay stand with my dear old dad. Last night i was at the other end of the ground with my son. Neat bookends to a lifetime of supporting our beloved club. At the end I didn't want to leave the ground and watching the players on their lap of honour I couldn't help but think of what a wonderful roller coaster ride its been, so many ups and downs, despair and elation in fairly equal measure. What a time to have been alive and experienced it all, I am indeed blessed. What a night, what a team and what a very special club we support. On the ball City, never mind the danger. Hopefully more to come next year if I'm still in the land of the living😀
  14. 33 points
    I can't remember an opening day quite like this one for weather. Usually the stands are a sea of yellow and green, bathed in the warm sunlight of high summer but today was more akin to a fairly drab day in early November. According to the Met Office radar there was a dry window at 2.15 just in time for me to bike off to CR. Unfortunately somebody closed the window and I was more than a bit damp upon arrival. The lad is away on his hols this weekend so my grand daughters husband took his seat today. In the past he's been a bit of a Jonah but he did see a couple of wins last year so he may have turned the corner at last. I normally watch at least one of the pre season games but to be honest I have had a job getting enthusiastic after last season and today was my first look at the new boys and the new formation. It was a lively start with City coming quickly forward down their left and as the ball ran across the edge of the River End box it was Sara who took a quick pot shot that was only two or three feet wide of Ingrams left post. It was immediately apparent that Wagner has asked for a much more up tempo game than last season and the forwards were soon adopting a very high press that Hull found difficulty dealing with. My early impressions were that Jon Rowe really looks like developing into a top talent and that with Jack Stacey at left back we are not going to miss Max Aarons all that much. Stacey looked solid with his defending and readily available when the ball was moved forward. Rowe looked beautifully balanced and with pace and trickery to match. This was richly displayed on ten minutes when he danced across the edge of the penalty area and skimmed a low shot back beyond Ingram and off the foot of the post. At this stage the home side looked well in command and we were just waiting for a chance to finally find the net but as was so often the case last season a moment of madness turned the game on its head. Duffy and Gibson got in a right old mess and between them they allowed Delap to nip in and hold off a defender before giving Gunn no chance. There were a few groans from the crowd who can be forgiven for a moment of Deja vu but the response from the team soon got them onside again. Rowe got away down the right but tried to dink the ball into the box and got a bit of an earfull from Ashley Barnes who was not too pleased and it was good to see that heads hadn't dropped. City piled forward with some nice quick passing and the visitors defence was all hands to the pump. Hernandez was unlucky to see a close range effort beaten away and Sargent should have won a free kick when obviously fouled just outside the box but Keith Stroud is nothing if not Keith Stroud. On the plus side he did book one or two when the fouls started to get out of hand. Duffy almost got on the scoresheet just before the half hour when he connected well with Sara's free kick but again the ball rebounded off the foot of the post and neither Barnes nor Sargent could convert. Then a lovely reverse pass from Rowe to Stacey ended when the full back blasted over from a narrow angle when a pull back was the correct course of action. I don't know what Barnes said but I bet it wasn't complimentary. Chances continued to come thick and fast and Hernandez should have done better than fire wildly over when the ball came back to him in a central postion 18 yards out. Then just before the break Sargent got on the end of a cross and appeared to nod the ball beyond Ingram from close range but somehow the Hull custodian stuck out an arm to palm it away, a quite brilliant save. That appeared to be that but in the dying embers of time added Gianoullis, I think it was, intercepted and sprung Rowe from the halfway line. He still had a lot to do but made ground quickly before curling a superb effort to the right of Ingram's despairing dive to send the home side in with a richly deserved equaliser. What a difference that made to the halftime mode around the ground, City had been totally dominant and could well have been two or three clear. Hull tightened things considerably when the second period ensued and chances came less frequently. There were calls for a penalty when a defender handled Rowes attempted cross but I couldn't really see from my end and with it being Keith Stroud it was pointless to get upset about it. A couple of corners resulted in headers skimming the bar but a City goal didn't seem to be coming. Indeed the best chance fell to Hull and only a superb finger tip save from Gunn kept things all square as the dangerous Delap pinged in a goalbound shot. from range. I was a bit concerned when Wagner made a mass change on seventy five minutes. Rowe and Sara departed to be replaced by Springett and Nunez but Omo came on for Gibson which was a plus and I think Rowe had taken a bit of a knock anyway. The game now seemed to be settling into a draw with neither side making real chances although Nunez did pull a good tip over out of Ingram with a twentyfive yarder as time ticked down. Here I must make a confession, I didn't see the winning goal. On ninety three minutes I reconciled myself to the draw and made a bolt for steps. I was unlocking my bike when the roar went up. Oh well, perhaps its a good omen and I should scoot out early every week from now on. I was more than a bit wet when I got home but it was worth the effort. Ricardo's verdict: I was pleasantly surprised at how well the new players fitted in and the new style is still quite pleasing on the eye when its played at pace. MOM Jon Rowe, he looks really special to me, lets hope he stays fit and it might be a good season after all.
  15. 33 points
    An extract from an article on MFW penned by @Kathy . Can't argue with that at all. A new man in charge of the team provides an opportunity for this to be a watershed moment for the Club as a whole, and so, as a fan, I would humbly suggest the following: Appoint a chairman. The club needs a figurehead to whom those running the show are answerable. Appoint a CEO in the style of Steve Stone/Ben Kensell – someone who isn’t married to another person at the club. Swallow your pride and end this ridiculous spat with the local press. It matters not who did what, or who said what, it’s time to move on. Recognise that mistakes were made on both sides and learn from them. It has to end at some time and now is as good as any. Embrace the long history and traditions of this football club, and start respecting and being honest with the fans again. We are not your employees. We invest a great deal of time, money, and emotion into this football club. Listen to what we have to say. Some of it is worth listening to. We’ve been around a long time. Do all of the above and this football club becomes a happier place for everyone again, not to mention a more desirable acquisition for Mr. Attanasio. Watching from afar he must have been horrified at the events of the last few weeks. Right now, a lot of hope is resting on his shoulders and his bank balance. But, most important of all, give us our football club back.
  16. 32 points
    Can I just put out there how good Sorensen was today. This fella has been dropped into the team when we have been in dire need and has never let us down. Today he looked like he'd been playing there all season.Can't praise him enough and deserves a decent run of games I reckon.
  17. 32 points
    In the past I've been so hoping for a long term manager to emerge, the likes of a John Bond for instance - or Ferguson/Wenger - as it would match the values of the club so well. I thought Lambert could be that man, then Hughton, then Neil - all of whom didn't stay for varying reasons, but with Farke I thought we had finally got that man. Someone who we could ride the roller coaster with for many years and when he was given a four year contract, I really thought that it was going to happen. I understand the pressure of the PL and the need to try and stay there, but this has been a bit more of an emotional shock. DF has been brilliant for our club - and imo could have been again - and today may have been the start of that, which was partly why I was so pleased for him and the team today. It seemed like a psychological corner had been turned. But now? I really don't know, but it seems a decision based on lost nerve rather than anything logical. A step back, imo....the world does turn, but it doesn't feel like it at the moment!! It seems like it started turning today for the club when the team won and then it stopped the moment the sacking was announced. I guess it will start again, but as far as the football is concerned, I don't think it will ever be the same again - Farke was the soul of the team, not Webber or DS/MJW and I doubt if that can easily be replaced. We may get a good manager in, we may even stay up, but a little bit of magic left the club today.
  18. 32 points
    Mrs Ricardo said "don't forget your lights", as we biked off down to CR this evening to run the rule over some of the new boys. Lucas Rupp was the only survivor from Saturdays debacle so I surmised it might be a bit of a "getting to know you" game. As I was soon to discover, it was anything but, and from the off everything looked nicely in synch. There was little of note in the opening exchanges with Sargent bustling clear on the right to win a corner while at the other end a long ball from the left went right across the City six yard box without anyone getting a touch. However we didn't have long to wait for some real action as on 12 minutes McLean floated a long pass into space for Tzolis to run on to and the Greek lad was cool as a cucumber, taking the ball in his stride and guiding it past the keeper with the help of a slight deflection. I have found over the years that it really doesn't take long to see if a young player has got what it takes and although I don't want to go over the top with Tzolis, anyone who couldn't see what I saw tonight is really wasting their time watching football. We were treated to it again on 25 minutes when his speed of thought and action found time for Dowell to set up Kenny McLean to thrash a twenty yarder just inside Nyland's left post. Bournemouth had dominated possession but never really got within striking range as City picked them apart with some deft passes. Tzolis was panicking the visitors defence by looking to run off the defenders shoulder everytime City came forward and it was no surpise just after the half hour when his sharp cross found Rupp on the penalty spot to slam a in a third with the keeper helpless. I don't want it to sound like a one man show because there were excellent contributions from Dowell and Sargent, while at the back Mumba, Zimbo, Williams and Omobamidelle were solid and seldom under any pressure and Sorenson was calmness itself in the centre of the park. However the real buzz came when the ball reached Tzolis, he just seemed capable of making things happen. I posted on the Pinkun thread at half time about his speed, balance and control, its hard to put into words but to me he just looks every inch a footballer. Wow! whoever scouted him should get a big Xmas bonus. I wondered if the second half would live up to it but if anything City whipped the ball about even quicker and we were treated to some really good stuff. Dowell picked up a stray pass 30 yards out and his cute ball left Tzolis with a run on goal. Nyland managed to get a hand on it but Sargent was on hand to tuck in the deflection to get his own scoreboard up and running. Fifteen minutes later the big strker returned the favour by winning the ball on the edge of the Bournemouth area and sliding a low ball across for Tzolis to ram in his second of the night. With a quarter of an hour to go nobody would have blamed Tzolis for going for his hat trick when bursting through on the left but he unselfishly fed Sargent who bundled home the sixth goal of the night. He might well have got his third but the next time he burst away he was just off target. Hmm, human after all. Gianoullis, Idah and Gilmour all had little cameo's but I can really only talk about one man tonight. As my son remarked as we were leaving, "wherever did the find him for that price"? Oh where indeed. I got wet on the ride back but it was well worth a soaking to witness that.
  19. 31 points
    Good evening folks. I hope you're doing well. A few people on various threads have asked me to update on the conversations we've been having about fixing technological problems some users have been experiencing on the forum. After lengthy conversations internally, I can confirm that our tests have concluded that the forum is working as it should after a few fixes behind the scenes. Hopefully, this is something you guys have experienced using the forum in recent days. Also, I can tell you that, hopefully, within the next few months there will be upgrades made to future proof and improve the forum from a technological and interface perspective. This should make it a better experience for all. I will update on this as and when I can. I don't know a huge amount more than that at this stage - but I did want to provide an update. Thanks again for using the forum in the right way. This does seem to have been, by and large, a better place in the last few weeks and months. All the best, Connor
  20. 31 points
    It was good to finally get back to Carrow Road after a rather long layoff due to illness. I didn't have to get the bike out either as we got a lift there and back with my grandaughters husband so it all worked out well on what was a pleasantly mild February evening. With the injury situation up front it was no surprise to see Idah having to plough a lone furrow while at the back Gibson returned in place of Omobamidelle who seems to have had a bit of a mare at Wigan on Saturday. City got on the front foot early doors and never really relinquished the upper hand for the entire first half. Dowell almost got Idah away in the first minute with a cute pass through the middle and a couple of minutes later the same player almost tricked his way through to goal only to be foiled at last gasp by a possee of defenders. It was promising stuff with the home side so busy in midfield that the visitors found it difficult to hold possession for long. Idah was showing a lot of energy in his game and although he got caught offside a couple of times you could see he was a handful for the Birmingham back line. Just before the quarter hour he played a neat ball back to Nunez who struck a first time low shot a foot wide of Ruddy's right post. With very little coming back the other way apart from the odd set piece it seemed only a matter of time before we scored. Nunez was here there and everywhere, keeping the ball on the move and it was fitting that he should be the one to break the stalemate. Birmingham had huffed and puffed to get the ball away after a period of sustained City pressure and when a clearance dropped out of the sky onto the little Chilean's boot I was expecting the volley to finish high up in the stands. He may never hit one as well as this again but it is one that will be replayed many times over the coming years, much like Safri's goal against Newcastle or Justin's strike against Liverpool back in the day. It simply ripped into the net before anyone could move. You could see the confidence rise as the home side kept the visitors at full stretch and it was no surpise when they doubled the lead ten minutes later. Kenny's teasing cross in from the City left put the defence in two minds and with everyone else seemingly static it was Nunez on the move again to guide the ball past the helpless Ruddy from about 6 yards. It almost got better just before halftime when City broke from midfield with Sara putting Idah away through the centre. He outpaced the defender but John Ruddy was quickly off his line and got enough on the ball to turn it just wide of the post. It was a very satisfactory half and certainly one to reignite playoff hopes if they could maintain this sort of form. However as we know to our cost this has been a season of contrasting halves and so it proved to be once again as City found it difficult to click back into gear as the second period began. It all got a bit scrappy with the home side suddenly unable to find the accuracy of pass that they had shown earlier. I still didn't feel that Birmingham had much about them but they scored early out of not much at all. City couldn't get a nothing cross away and paid the penalty as the visitors right back cracked a low shot from the edge of the box just inside Gunn's right post. The next ten minutes was a bit hairy but Gunn fielded a Hogan header on the line then the ref allowed play to continue after a foul on a City player and a low hard cross was almost turned in at the far post. Ref Gillett then got quite a bit of deserved stick from both crowd and City defenders. Kenny should have restored the advantage mid way though the half when Idah's nod on put him in the clear and although he poked the ball past Ruddy, a defender managed to hook it off the line. Sorensen and Tzolis came on for Gianoullis and Hernandez as Wagner freshened things up as the home side began to look a bit more comfortable. A couple of sweeping breaks nearly brought a third goal as Birminham were forced to commit more forward and only a narrow offside call prevented Nunez and then Idah from wrapping things up but the wrap up did finally come as we entered time added.Tzolis went clear on the left and neatly stepped inside two defenders before administering the Coup de Grace with a shot that flew past Ruddy into the far top corner and settling things for those of a nervous disposition. Nunez my MOM. Honourable mentions for Dowell and Adam Idah who were busy up front and Max Aarons who seldom put a foot wrong at the back. Nice to see Tzolis get on the scoreboard, it should do his confidence the world of good. Its good to be back.
  21. 31 points
    Where did it all go wrong Daniel, Stuart, Delia? I had a client who - aside from other things - was a leading National risk assessor for Health & Safety accidents at work. When thinking about apportioning blame for any perceived failure, I often think about his firmly-held belief - borne of repeated experience - that major failures are almost always the consequence of a string of (he would say predominantly-avoidable) smaller errors occurring in collective sequence. These errors can be broken down into the strategic, the operational-systemic and the individual. The overriding driver for assessment is learning and structural improvement where necessary. Much as it is with Norwich. In the immediate aftermath of failure, my client would consider it highly unwise to leap to find fast answers and apportion useful blame. It is something of a human instinct, though it is a poor substitute for slower, more considered thinking. Norwich don’t have enough money to compete on an equal footing at this level. This is undoubtedly a massive hindrance and defines a number of macro imperatives that drive subsequent sporting decisions. Let’s start with the obvious. There are few Norwich fans who would argue against the statement that Buendia was our best player last year and that Skipp was our most important. Buendia for pure ability to hurt the opposition and affect games, week in, week out. He cannot be ignored strategically by the opposition, they have to change their own preferred plans to adjust to his very presence. Coaching definition: a weapon. Skipp naturally played the exact way that offered a key counterpoint to the way Farke likes to play and set up his sides. He instinctively acted as a third centre back when necessary, didn’t get sucked forward or out of shape when we were on top, smelt danger before it arrives and was fast into the fire at its outbreak. If he was not priceless to us, his role was. If not him, then someone had to bought to do that exact job. It is even more important at the top level. This is not hindsight, it was pretty clear to the vast majority of Norwich fans who watch their team regularly. Let us now shoot a canard or two to move the discussion forward. It is unheard of to sell your best player and major weapon upon promotion. Unheard of. The timing of it is extraordinary. It was a huge gamble and - slightly - smells of a compulsive need-belief in ‘doing differently’ to the point where you try to reinvent the wheel in evangelical belief. Norwich did not have to sell Buendia. There have been thousands of footballers who pitched for a move, who got their agent to get spiky, who leaked some ‘come-and-get-me’ pleas, a thousand gentleman’s agreements in football that weren’t worth the toilet paper they weren’t wiped on. Norwich were premier League. Buendia was under contract. Promotion was fresh. Norwich chose to sell Buendia. This goes to the heart of the issue, as it combines the weaknesses of lack of finance with sporting strategy. It is not retrospective wisdom to note that at the top level teams are full of powerful, capable squads who have the top level nous to minimise on-field strategic weakness (and force the best to be brilliant, week-in, week-out). Weaker teams face more pressure and thus weaker players make more individual mistakes. Is this then really errors of the individual or the inevitable odds of the wheel of fortune? Stuart Webber wisely stated that we would not try to compete with this, that we couldn’t, that we would focus on improving the first xi and not spread money around a vast squad of interchangeable (likely not-quite-as-good-as-everyone-else’s) players. Nevertheless the decision was made to sell Buendia - who not only a weapon in his own right, but also ensured that Pukki his compadre was at least half a weapon. That’s already good enough to trouble teams a bit. What has been bought are not weapons. They are good players. We are on average much better as a squad, yet conversely less dangerous to the opposition. There is the trade. It seems at odds with the early-in-pre-season statement. Daniel Farke can pick two good teams every week, though not an eleven that can trouble the opposition. This looks like an expensive mis-calculation. There may be a necessary asset investment angle to this. A Tzolis, a Sargent, a Rashica can flourish and suddenly be a valuable asset. They may stay and thrive in the Championship. This strategy may be a product of lack of finance. It would be hard to argue that it doesn’t sacrifice the here-and-now though. The painful truth may be that Daniel, Stuart and Delia have all done as well as they can with what they have. Demanding change now may be missing the point. Daniel may be wedded to a dominant footballing philosophy that flourishes exclusively against the weaker. Stuart may have ‘done different’ one too many times and succumbed to the - often wonderful - religious fervour of a new Messiah. Delia may be right to rail against the dreadful capitalism of the whole thing….but…. …Maths is a terrible adversary however and all the numbers are against us with what we have. Unpicking the stitching in the dugout changes little if the over-arching fundamentals remain the same. Farke may be the lightning rod, Webber may seek pastures new and trade off well-earned previous glories, Delia may cling on with an ever-tighter grip like Miss Haversham in the crumbling manor…but what then? Does the cycle repeat….the wonderful, awful pain and joy of yo-yo greatness and awfulness? The railing against Murdoch’s millions while gobbling it up so it can be dribbled away to pay for the inevitable annual millions lost in the Championship? Farke has an array of good players, though he has no weapons. Even Pukki is emasculated without Buendia. Of course when you have one or two weapons you are dependent. Of course you are one injury away from a real issue. Though even that wily old warhorse Steve Bruce - no-ones favourite for favourite manager of the year - essentially builds a solid, effective team then ‘gives the ball to the lad Saint-Maximin’ while the others players sit tight, watch and applaud. It is an effective strategy for the job at hand. Newcastle stay up comfortably (also not enough for fans of course, one must ever move forwards..such is top level sport). Unless you are a truly wealthy, incredible team you cannot hold many weapons for long though. Though the magpies do keep Saint-Maximin, Spurs do not sell Kane and nobody - but nobody - sells such a weapon at the point of promotion. Norwich are hamstrung by their ownership model. Self-sustaining to an absolutist degree is an extraordinary strategy in football. There is no money. Self-sustaining is not a philosophy or a laudable guiding principle, it is borne of necessity. Everything - selling Buendia included - flows from there. Unless Delia gives the shares away or bequeathes them to a group or individual, then they must be bought. They do have a value. Let us say that the club is worth £100m. To buy 65% of the club, an investor, new benefactor, lottery winner must spend £65m on a nameplate. Before anything else happens. £65m spent and not a single loan left back added yet. No wonder there ‘is no queue of investors lining Carrow Road’. So this is it. This is where the maths ends up and the road we tread again. Farke is a red herring. Sacking the manager changes nothing. I’m not even sure that 2 or 3 ardent fans would agree on what our best xi is, what shape it should be, where our best weapons are. I’m afraid simply railing that ‘we should get after them more’….or ‘we don’t go at teams from the off’ … or ..’we need to want it more’ is pointless, worthless nonsense. We have spent Buendia on a lot of players who are better than we had before and a lot less not-as-good-as-everyone-else’s. Though we don’t have anything now to really hurt teams tactically with. ‘Both boxes’ as the old boys used to say. Our failure is a cascading collection of small weaknesses and inter-connecting sticking plasters to cover the gaping wound of lack of finance. All of it is understandable. If we really want to ‘do different’ it is time to reach out to the SME world, to the Tifosys trading ground bond supporters, small investors, loyal individuals and create a genuinely inclusive French-Shared-Mortgage model whereby the small slices of ownership fluctuate according to investment size at any given moment. Whereby any small (vetted) investor gets a marketing share of brand usage, whereby the community and collective spirit is honourably leveraged to create a membership-style model that would truly be a fitting legacy to Delia’s wonderful era. She herself could and should be a major part going forwards. Like it or not, intended or not, the club has become a massively appreciated asset. It’s value has increased maybe tenfold from the very welcome, though contextually small investment of (anecdotally) £10m or less. The majority of the £100m is now Delia’s. She can hand it down to Tom. He can keep it or cash it in. Maybe it is a theoretical £100m that never sees the light of day. If you ask for that money from an investor, I would be reasonably sure it would never materialise. The ‘doors are open’ offer to sell is thus a somewhat theoretical one. It also would have no benefit to Norwich City. Not a pound would enter the club from such a share sale. Something of a circular reference self-fulfilling prophecy then…. ..and so we have 20 odd good players and no Buendia. Nor any Skipp. Nor any points. Not really an accident at all. Parma
  22. 31 points
    I think above all, he has earned the move. No moaning, threats to down tools, demands to leave like Todd and Buendia - he's consistently given his all to this club. If this is his last season in yellow and green, he should be applauded out the door by all fans of this club.
  23. 30 points
    In days gone by I used to get very nervous before Derby games but over the years It has become easier thanks largely to our long period of dominance over them. At some stage it must come to an end as all good things inevitably do, but as biked down to the ground at today I had no feeling of impending doom. Indeed, it was a fine bright morning and conditions seemed set fair for a decent game. The crowd was in good voice as the match got underway and City were the first to show, winning a corner on the left. The ball was cleared out to Sainz who could only volley wildly over the top. At the other end Town quickly won a corner of their own but it came to nothing. Both teams looked to keep things tight early on and consequently defences dominated and the was little in the way of goalmouth action. On balance the opening quarter of the game was closely fought but niether team committed much forward as the midfield play became littered with petty fouls. Both sides seemed to needlessly give the ball away and Duffy twice nearly blotted his copy book with silly passes out of defence. Ref Mr Donahue, was probably sensible not to wave the yellow cards too early but he had no choice as we approached the half hour mark and Tuanzebe took Sargent out on the edge of the box after a neat through ball from Barnes. Tuanzebe was certainly the last man but despite the howls from the crowd and appeals from the home side the card was yellow not red. Nunez tried to hit a low free kick under the wall but it was blocked for a corner. City kept the pressure on and it was Nunez again as 1p5wich got bodies in the way. Then the Town keeper had to punch away from almost under the bar and it was Sainz this time who couldn't get his shot past a mass of bodies in the six yard box. It was the best period of home pressure in the match and you felt that we needed to make it count and as Sargent was fouled centrally and about thirty yards out the opportunity came. It looked a bit far out for a shot on target but as the visitors formed a line, NUNEZ hit a swerving effort that bounced before beating Hladky and going in off the inside of the post. It was a deserved lead as City had started to look dangerous since the half hour while 1p5witch had still not managed anything resembling a meaningful shot on goal. They did start to push forward a bit more but a couple of catches by Gunn was all it needed to steer the home side through to a half time lead. CITY 1 1P5WICH 0 I thought 1p5wich might have been more up for it and for a team on top of the league I didn't feel they offered much in the first half and expected to be a bit more under pressure when the teams restarted. They had a decent bit of possession but still nothing to trouble Gunn while whenever the home side moved forward they looked the sharper outfit. A nice ball from McCallum flicked off Sainz's back and fell kindly for the little winger but he could only lift the ball over the advancing keeper but comfortably wide of the post. Barnes was alone in the middle of the penalty area and made his displeasure know in no uncertain terms. The visitors now began to lift some high balls in for Moore but Duffy was equal to it and Gunn was not stretched as a ball looped goalward. Then finally a shot came in on target but it was straight at Gunn who fielded it comfortably. As the visitors pushed further forward the gaps opened up at the back and suddenly Sargent was in a race with defenders and got of a shot that Hladky had to go to ground to save. Then it was Sargent through again only to be closed down by two defenders and from my end it looked like foul as he was upended on the edge of the box but again Mr Donahue was unmoved despite appeals. In the stands the confidence began to grow as rounds of OTBC and Yellows Yellows rang round the ground. With fifteen minutes left Barnes went off to loud applause and Gibbs came on to replace him. 1p5witch rang some changes also and although they buzzed around our area for a bit they didn't really create much danger. Stacey who had been a live wire all day, received great applause as he broke from defence and nearly ran the length of the field before being disposessed. Chaplin skyed a shot over from a neat ball from the left and then Al Hamidi went down on the edge of the box in a foot race with Gibson but again Mr Donahue wasn't buying today. Then there was a near thing as Harness found a bit of space in the box but Gibbs was on hand to scoop the ball away. Despite this late pressure I didn't feel that 1p5wich had it in them as every City free kick, goal kick and throw in was cheered to the rafters and the five minutes added time ran out without any serious alarms. As I rode home the bells of St Giles on the Hill were ringing out and I couldn't help but think how lucky we are to have witnessed this long period of dominance over the old enemy and what a pleasure it is to keep putting a spoke in their wheel. Stacey my MOM today. An absolutely towering performance. CITY 1 1P5WICH 0.
  24. 29 points
    To see my Club in this state. Been there and seen it all before , but it never gets any easier . How did we end up with this set of players . Decent owners but who now haven’t got the drive or the money who have rescinded power to a sporting director who has come to the end of his agitation and his wife who in interviews couldn’t be less (you know) impressive . How have we ended up giving new contract to a player like Onel who three years ago wasn’t good enough for our then team? Or a striker who doesn’t strike ? How have we deflated the fans and the sponsors . Found a way to perform suicidal PR stunt after stunt . Having to celebrate having a nice font or badge change. I feel tonight like I did under Roeder. We have witnessed relegation form in the last 10 games. I wish i didn’t care so much but Norwich are in the very core of my being . Watching that shocking performance , hearing the fans , listening to friends connected to the club and what is happening is dreadful. The City club is having a nightmare . I hate it.
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  27. 29 points
    There are a lot of threads of minimal substance calling for Smith to go, but very little in the way of reasoning and analysis to support the view. That's disappointing given the wealth of evidence we have to backup the assertion that he simply isn't getting enough out of the players. For me there is a fundamental point which highlights the failure of Dean Smith's tenure. The overriding narrative of his appointment has been that he is supposed to be making us better equipped for Premier League survival. Indeed, the criticism of Farke was that he couldn't get results in the top flight. These fixtures against the better teams in the Championship are the perfect yardstick with which to measure our progress. Your Watfords, Burnleys and Sheffield Utds represent the easiest of Premier League opposition. If we did (somehow) go up then these are the teams we'll need to beat to survive. Yet here we are. Barely able to get a foot on the ball. Backs against the wall, hoofing it clear over and over again. There's been no tangible progress. Just a dogmatic adherence to the flawed 4-3-3 despite its obvious shortcomings. Repeatedly trying the same thing and getting the same results. So what has Smith brought to the club? How have we progressed? I see occasional glimmers of what the plan might be, but then I see huge holes on our flanks with runners unmarked as they arrive in our box, time and time again. Is the hope really to just pump the ball forwards and hope that Pukki can make something happen? Just 18 months ago we were playing the best football I've ever seen from Norwich. It was beautiful to watch. Now we're a shadow of that team. Worst of all, Burnley are showing us exactly how it should be done. Passing, movement, intensity, perseverance. Things we only see in brief spells. And two of our best players in Pukki and Cantwell are out of contract in the summer. This is very much the end of an era. Sacking Farke looks worse by the week. And before you trott out that line about the same people calling for Farke's sacking now wanting him back... No, that's b@llocks. Lots of us - those with a sense of perspective - never wanted him to go. And we were bloody right!
  28. 28 points
    After battling my way round Marks & Spencers this morning I was dubious as to whether I had enough puff left to bike down to the ground this afternoon. However the habits of a lifetime are hard to break and although it was a little bit windy, conditions were otherwise fairly mild and dry so I gave it a go. The omens were good and having just watched our southern neighbours get a tonking at Elland Road I had a strong feeling that this was going to be a good Xmas. A small cheer went up from me when we lost the toss and kicked off towards the Barclay for a change. In the old days this was always the favoured choice and stood us in good stead for many years. In the early stages City dominated possession without really getting in any goal scoring positons and despite some nice accurate passing most of the play was across and in front of the Huddersfield defence and when the ball eventually came into the box the danger was easily snuffed out. The visitors were mostly set up behind the ball but did come forward in the sixth minute to win a corner and a free kick but they could do no better than find a header that went well over. City did eventually work a bit of space when Rowe burst clear but the move ended when Sara could only find the side netting when forced wide. It was obviously going to be a game of patience as City continued to look neat and tidy with the ball but couldn't find an opening in the visitors packed defence. Midway through the half Huddersfield did manage to exert a short period of dominance but the early pattern of the game reasserted itself and the home side almost snatched the lead when a Stacey cross from the right found Barnes unmarked and his firm header looked goal bound from my end, only for Maxwell to produce a fine save to his left. It was about as close as we had got to a goal first half and apart from a low shot from Nunez that went wide, there was little sign of a breakthrough. Just before the half ended, Gianoullis got a bang in the face it I wasn't surprised when he didn't appear second half. It looked better almost immediately when McCallum came on and linked up with Sainz down the City left and won a corner which Duffy couldn't get enough contact on. The ball ran out to the far side where Nunez retrieved and swung in a ball that McCallum headed into the net from a narrowish angle to give City the lead. Confidence now seemed to flow through the team and with Sara spraying passes right and left the crowd finally got behind the team and we had a few choruses of OTBC. Stacey then put in a lovely cross after a low ball had whistled across the face of goal without anyone getting a touch. Sainz glanced a header just wide then Rowe tested the visitors keeper with another low shot on target. There was little coming back the other way and I can't recall anything that troubled Gunn all afternoon. The introduction of McCallum seemed to have set Sainz alight and the visitors had to resort to a bit of rough house to keep him out more than once. We had Fassnacht and Idah on for Rowe and Hernandez just after the hour but it made little difference to the rythm of the game which was now mostly one way and just after seventy minutes Idah sprung away down the right and had time to look up and see Barnes haring down the middle. His quick low cross was a tad too strong but Barnes touch only set Sainz up and a touch and a shuffle inside was all that was required for the little winger to find space and curl a low shot beyond Maxwell for number two. After this it could easily have been three or four and one glorious move involving Sara and an Idah backheel almost ended with Hwang, who had just replaced Barnes, netting in the far top corner. Unfortunately it was a couple of feet wide. From here on the game was done and dusted and coupled with the 1p5wich result it meant a nice little Xmas present for those of us of the Yellow persuasion. I don't know if you can give a man who only had forty five minutes, MOM but I thought he really was surperb second half and was instrumental in getting the result. Sara and Nunez were again almost faultless and also a special mention for Onell who left it all out there on the pitch today. Hopefully this sets us up nicely for an improved second half of the season because we did look good today once the confidence returned and the crowd found their mojo. Happy Xmas and a prosperous New Year to all from Ricardo.
  29. 28 points
    Heroic. Of all the people needing a boost in these troubled times, I can think of no one more worthy than a school that charges its pupils over £7k a term to attend. For context, it will be used to buy Holt Hall and turn that into a fee-paying prep school. A facility that tens of thousands of people who went to normal school in Norfolk will have fond childhood memories of school trips there. And I wonder how much of that £35m Dyson earned by ditching Britain in favour of Singapore?
  30. 28 points
    By popular demand....well by one person anyway..... Just got back from the match and not read anything on here and couldn't listen to canary call, so all I've seen or heard was a rather shabby BBC report on Radio 5 that declared Burnley had chances to win the match, which implied that we didn't, which is a travesty of the situation. My thoughts? As a performance I thought it was gutsy, feisty, hard fought, passionate, at times exciting and we could and maybe should have scored. Totally deserved the point and the fans loved it with the relief of finally getting a point and seeing a really good performance. So good performances all over the pitch, Normann, Kabak and Gianoulis caught the eye particularly - and Rashica when he came on when he gave their left back a torrid time. You could see Sargent gives absolutely 100% too and was a handful and good at pressing and tracking back. Late in the second half Kabak and Sargent both had gutsy runs which really lifted the fans and showed intent - and there were two good shots from Aarons and Lees-Melou in the first half. Normann was excellent, drawing a good save from the Burnely goalie and he hit the bar with a cross shot - he looks a real player. If you compared this game to two years ago when were bullied to a 2-0 loss, this was quite the opposite. We were well up to the physical challenge today, which was really good to see. No bullying by Burnley then - we simply met them head on - and overall it was a good lively 0-0. There were faults, of course, too many misplaced passes still, looked a bit nervy passing around at the back - but we had a safety first policy in place where Krul quite often kicked long, so mixing it up a bit, which I thought was good practice and made us a bit less predictable at the back - Burnley could not afford to press too much as a result. Their penalty shouts were dealt with well by the ref - there was one that might have been given had their player not been running away from the goal at the time, but overall the decisions looked fair for both teams and the ref looked to me as if he was trying to let the game flow. Farke summed it up at the end when he came over to our cheering fans with his hand over his heart. It was that kind of game and we did very well under the circumstances of having no points and with confidence low, to battle and give as good as we got - and with a bit of luck migt have even got all three points. I've probably missed out some important stuff, but being my first match for quite some time, I enjoyed every minute of it - the team turned up and gave us the performance we wanted to see - and the fans were brilliant too. We're up and running! OTBC
  31. 28 points
    What the **** is wrong with you idiots? The day before the season starts and we're putting down our players with this sort of ****ing nonsense? Un-****ing-believable.
  32. 28 points
    Hi chaps Im a season ticket holder at Leicester and felt that you guys needed some praise today. Naturally im disappointed we didnt win considering our form and your league position (no disrespect) but we didn't do enough to win and more importantly i was really surprised/impressed with Norwich. That's the poorest we've played at home this season and these sorts of games happen but take nothing away from Norwich Defensively superb, particularly the full backs Aarons and byram, not to mention being very creative going forward. You guys always looked dangerous and have some talent in the attacking area's. Pukki constantly a threat plus really like Cantwell, quality player. Ive 100% seen a number of worse sides than you guys this season and playing like that you'll stay up for sure. Great support and i really like farke. Massively hope you do stay up
  33. 27 points
    Hope he gets the credit he deserves. Energy, fight and great passing. Totally changed the game.
  34. 27 points
  35. 26 points
    Hi everyone! This is my first post and I'm a pretty new football fan, so take it easy on me! I have recently become a Norwich City fan after seeing their amazing Mental Health video they posted back in October (I'm sure most of you have seen this). As some background, we lost my uncle to suicide back in January of 2022 - needless to say it shattered our world and this video really hit home. I'm from Canada, live just outside Toronto. A lot of my friends are into football and cheer for some EPL teams, I had just never gotten into it much. After this video, I figured I'd dive ALL IN. I did some research and stumbled upon these fourms, and figured I'd make a post and seek some advice from the community of fans. I've had some thoughts as I've watched matches recently and was hoping some on here could help! What are things I NEED to know as a Norwich supporter? Are there podcasts, YouTube channels, Twitter/IG accounts I should follow? I noticed on the Canaries website that their is a "Toronto Canaries" supporter group - anyone know anything about this? Rowe seems like he is a stud - always seems to come up with the big goal. But why does he come out of games early often? There seems to be a lot of distaste towards Barnes on these fourms. I quite like his aggressive style of play (I come from a hockey background - he seems like he'd be a bully hockey player!) On a similar note, I was a goalie when I played hockey, and I really like Gunn. He seems real composed and makes a ton of big stops at important moments. This group doesn't seem sold on Wagner as the leader - why is this? He definitely seems passionate. Any other advice as a new supporter? Also to share, you can see the big merch box I was lucky enough to get for Christmas yesterday from my fiance - definitely got spoiled but now I'm all in. And spending this morning with footy & Team Canada World Junior Hockey - what better! Thanks everyone!
  36. 26 points
    Villa fan in peace- I honestly think Deano is getting a bad rap on here and people not actually realising what a good job he has done throughout his career. So stick with me- I'll try and settle your minds a bit on it. Smith had his coaching education as assistant to Martin Ling at Leyton Orient before moving to Walsall as a Youth Coach. He took over as Caretaker Manager at Walsall before being given the Head Coach job. Remember this is Walsall, a club who sell their best players, never re-invest any money and solely rely on loans and free transfers. Under Smith, they were regularly challenging at the top of League 1, vying for promotion to the Championship. They were 2nd when he left for Brentford and they lost out in the play-offs to Barnsley in the end. Walsall have nosedived since and are just keeping their heads afloat in League 2. At Brentford he went in and took Brentford from a bottom half club to vying for the play-offs each and every season. Together with the smart recruitment strategy at Brentford, he developed so many players. Ollie Watkins was brought in from Exeter for pennies, sold for 30m. Benrahma another one. There are so many examples. He left Brentford for one reason and it was the Villa job, but he left them in a really healthy place for Thomas Frank, his assistant to continue the work done and fight for promotion, which eventually happened. He came into Villa which was an absolute sorry state at the time. Hours away from liquidation until our new owners came in and saved the day. Bruce with his backwards recruitment left us with one fit centre half and another playing with an injury which eventually cost him his Villa career (James Chester). Smith came in and instantly galvanised the place- yes you could say we had the likes of Grealish, Abraham and McGinn- top players at that level but Grealish was nothing like the Jack Grealish you think of today. He took him under his wing and took him on that journey to the player he is today. Without Smith, Grealish was nothing. We had a good run when he first came in, dipped a bit in the new year when Grealish was injured. Smith went about correcting the unbalanced side Bruce had left by loaning Mings & Hause in the January. Then from sitting in 13th, took us on a club record 10 game winning run which culminated in the play-off final at Wembley in the May, beating Frank Lampard's Derby. When he came in, the owners wanted promotion within a couple of seasons- Dean did it within 7 months. Whilst promotion was great, it left us some big problems. We lost 15 members of our playing staff due to contracts expiring or loans returning to their parent clubs. People will talk about how Villa spent £120m that summer but it was on 11 players at a average of 9m per player. And we had to do that as we literally had no squad- we had to somehow build a squad ready for whatever league we were playing in. Yes we were fortunate we had the backing of the very wealthy and ambitious owners, but even so, it was never going to be an easy task. We were okay until Christmas, keeping our heads above water. We struggled in the New Year, despite making it to the League Cup Final after beating Leicester over 2 legs in the Semi-Final. We were on a bad run which coincided with losing Heaton, McGinn and Wesley to long term injuries and COVID struck and probably saved our season and Dean's job. He was able to take stock over lockdown, came back and we had a much improved defence and ended the season with 4 matches unbeaten to stay up. Some will say hawk-eye kept us up, but worth remembering there were 9 and a half fixtures left following that incident- so much football still to play. And then that summer we replaced the Sporting Director, brought in some smart signings such as Watkins, Cash and Martinez, and tied Grealish down to a new deal. Had a strong first half of the season and everyone through Europe was on the cards. We stuttered somewhat, again coincided with injuries to Grealish, Barkley & Traore and finished 11th. The summer is where it kind of unraveled, Richard O'Kelly and John Terry both left for different reasons, leaving Smith a bit vulnerable. A couple of new coaches came in on the advice of the Sporting Director/Owners and it never seemed to click. Losing Grealish was massive, yes we took 100m but he was our talisman, he was Aston Villa and replacing him was going to be difficult. Again injuries have been rife- we still are yet to see Danny Ings, Buendia & Leon Bailey on the same pitch for more than 15 minutes together. We have had some flashes of brilliance this season, winning at Old Trafford and hammering Everton at Villa Park but overall it has not been great- but as I say there are various reasons for that happening. I was still convinced Smith would have turned it around, because he always does. Most of all, he is such a good man, a good footballing man. He is adaptable, understands he makes mistakes and works to put them right. He is a brilliant man manager who builds strong relationships with his players. The players were gutted when he left Villa last week. Predominantly plays a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 and will certainly get Gilmour & Cantwell in the team if he joins you guys. When it really works for Smith, it really works and the football can be a joy to watch. It's important he gets his right backroom team in. If he could bring O'Kelly and Shakespeare alongside him, you guys would be fine. He's not a sexy name but for where you guys are I genuinely think he is a perfect fit. He has experience of a relegation battle and if worst comes to the worst and you go down, he has extensive knowledge and experience of the Championship and you'd back him to get you straight back up. I hope he takes the job as the guy deserves it. Villa fans are so grateful to him, came in when we were floundering for a 3rd season in the Championship in 15th place- he leaves us as a regular fixture again in the Premier League, albeit going through a bad patch but with the tools to improve once again. Good luck for the rest of the season.
  37. 26 points
    Perhaps it was the excitement of being back or maybe just the relief of coming safely through a dark place but when I climbed the stairs behind the River End goal and gazed down upon a resplendant Carrow Road, I didn't think that I was alone in feeling a lump in my throat and a tear in my eye. All around me, people were renewing old aquaintances but it was sad to learn that one or two old faces had fallen by the wayside. Happily for the great majority of us life goes on and face another season of trials and tribulations in the one love that unites all who share the faith of the Yellow and Green. Here in Norwich it had been a fine sunny morning but it clouded over about midday and by kick off time it was heavily overcast though still quite warm. The team was pretty much as expected with Hanley returning to the centre of defence and the new boys Raschica, Lees-Melou and Gilmour getting the nod. When City kicked off towards the Barclay End the crowd was as loud as I have ever heard it since the '59 cup run days when there were 38k giving it the full treatment. The early moments were encouraging with City confidently knocking the ball about and retaining possession for a long period but without looking threatening. Liverpool took a while to settle but Mane was looking very lively when getting in behind Max Aarons. By the tenth minute the visitors began to assert a measure of control in midfield and City conceeded a couple of corners as they gave ground. From the second, the ball was worked back in and Krul had to react quickly to palm Jota's header over the bar. City eventually clicked into gear when Rashica raced away on the left but his cross could find niether Pukki nor Cantwell. Play moved from end to end with neat interpassing from both sides although it was always obvious that the Reds carried the greater threat as Salah volleyed one a yard wide. Not to be outdone, Aarons slipped Pukki through in the righthand channel and his fierce shot was parried away for a corner by Alison. City kept the pressure on for a while but things came to nothing when the Liverpool keeper cut out Raschica's cross. It was now mainly Liverpool in the ascendancy as Salah again tested Krul with a stinging drive but again City came back when Cantwell pounced on a mistake and tried to catch Alison out withan outrageous lob from the right wing. The first goal was obviously going to be important and when it came there was more than a touch of good fortune about it. A ball in from the Liverpool right appeared to bounce off Salah and fall nicely between Hanley and Gibson for Jota to stroke the ball under Krul's despairing dive. It was a touch unlucky but Liverpool had certainly looked the more likely and for the next few minutes it was all hands to the pump to prevent the rampant visitors from extending the lead. Lees-Melou cleared from near the line as Van Djyk poked the ball goalwards and one or two last ditch tackles from Aarons and Hanley saved the day. City got through to the break without further damage but you could already see that getting anything out of this game was a fairly long shot. When we resumed, things continued in much the same vein with Liverpool bossing the centre of the pitch and Aarons had to be sharp to clear away Mane's effort with Krul beaten. Gilmour impressed with some good long range passes but despite periods of neat play the home attacks carried little in the way of a sharp edge. Just after the hour mark Firmino came on for Jota and as another City attack broke down a lovely flowing move stretched the home reaguard to breaking point as Salah set up Firmino for a tap in. It was all over bar the shouting when ten minutes later, Salah wrapped up the scoring with a rasping drive when City failed to clear. To their credit the home side refused to wilt and when Pukki and Raschica made way for Sargent and Idah, there were a couple of close things. Sargents late cross shot was only just wide of the far post and with four minutes left in an almighty scramble on the Liverpool six yard line neither Sargent nor Idah could force the ball past Alison before the big Liverpool keeper managed to claw it away. A disappointing result but make no mistake this is a top class Liverpool side and with Van Djyk back they are a force to be reckoned with. All the City new boys looked decent but will take time to bed in and will find much easier games than this as the season progresses. A nice range of passing from Gilmour and touches of exciting pace from Rashica give hope for the future and Josh Sargent showed enough in his short cameo to see that he has something about him. All things considered it was wonderful to be back at a full CR and I am not going to get too depressed at this result, there's still a long long way to go. Grant Hanley my MOM, played a real captains game.
  38. 25 points
    After a week of Brass Monkey weather here in Norfolk, winter released its icy hand and the thermometer rocketed to the dizzy heights of five degrees. Thankfully the M&S thermals worked their magic and I was as warm as toast in the nether regions when I arrived at Carrow Road. Games against West Brom are usually difficult affairs and after ten minutes of fairly dogged defensive work this one looked like it was going to be more difficult than most. The visitors were soon dominating possession as the home side fell back to guarding their eighteen yard line and the crowd became very quiet. On the plus side there didn't appear to much danger from the West Brom attack as a corner and a free kick into the box were easily defended. The home side did at least look dangerous on the rare occassions they broke forward. Its not a style of play I favour but it worked a treat on thirteen minutes when Kenny had time and space to venture beyond the halfway line and slide a lovely pass between two defenders to allow Josh Sargent a clear run at goal. With defenders snapping at his heels he hit a low shot that Palmer seemed to parry but could not prevent the ball from squirming away into the net. Things livened up a bit after that as City began to have a lot more of the ball and they certainly looked far more likely to add to their total than conceed. Sainz almost broke through but was crudely tackled at the expense of a yellow card and the same player toed one over the bar after a good period of City pressure. The visitors came back into it again with a long period of possession but despite a lot of buzzing around the penalty area there was little to trouble Gunn and although it wasn't pretty it was certainly quietly effective. On the half hour City did put some nice passing movements together and Palmer was called into serious action. When Rowe picked up the ball on the edge of the area and side stepped a defender, I was half out of my seat as his curling shot looked destined for the top corner. Somehow the West Brom keeper managed to fly to his right and just get enough on it to turn it round the post. It was a superb bit of action and worth the entrance money for that alone. Gianoullis might have done better than flash wildly over the bar when well placed and just before the break there were oh's and ah's as Sara's dipping free kick landed on the topp of the net rather than under the bar. At the other Thomas Asante had the ball in the net but it was a clear handball that I called from my end a hundred yards away. All in all a satisfactory half although many City fans are not happy when the opposition dominate the ball it would be difficult to argue that it wasn't effective. The quick incisive breaks were fleeting but they were a delight to watch with Sainz, Rowe and Sargent all looking a handful. There was the expected response from the visitors when play resummed as they pinged the ball about at a higher pace and although the home defence were stretched a few times, they didn't break. There was a close thing when Swift I think, hit a shot on the turn that only drifted a foot wide with Gunn beaten and then another bundled shot that Gunn watched go a yard wide of the other post but still nothing on target. Just after the hour, Sargent and Sainz, who I thought were probably amongst our most effective players, were withdrawn for Fassnacht and Nunez. I moaned a bit to the boy that it was a strange decision and I got even more worried when Thamas Asante finally brought a save out of Gunn with West Brom's first effort on target. In all honesty it did feel like an equaliser was coming and the crowd was getting nervous but when a goal came it was at the other end. Stacey did brilliantly to intercept just outside our area and moved well into the other half before squaring the ball inside to Sara who timed his pass to Gianoullis with perfection. The City full back slid a low ball across the face of goal and Johnny Rowe did what Johnny Rowe does best and suddenly there was a whole different atmosphere in the stadium. The visitors slung on Dike up front and although he got a head to a couple of crosses Gunn was not too extended in dealing comfortably with them. Rowe brought another save out of Palmer before City shut up shop and repelled West Broms final flourish. In the end it felt like a comfortable victory although there were times when it got a bit frustrating. Rowe my MOM today with good mentions for Sainz and Sargent, who brings a different dimension to City's attacking options.
  39. 25 points
    Morning, all. Firstly, having read this (rather epic!) post back to myself, I can see plenty of statements in it that those who aren't fans of Webber will be able to pick holes in, but I'd urge you to try to read the thing in its entirety if you have the time. I've genuinely tried to be as balanced as I can, and I've done plenty of research in compiling it. I read Mick Dennis's piece on MFW this morning with great interest, and while his staunch defence of the club was predictable and heavily rose-tinted, I wanted to do my due diligence and try to see where he was coming from without automatically dismissing it as propaganda and rhetoric. In terms of Mick's defence of Dean Smith, while I have some sympathy with the notion that whoever we appointed would suffer with 'not being Daniel Farke', the lack of progress over the past year-and-a-bit, coupled with his divisive attitude towards to the fans, makes his position untenable. Short of three convincing and stylish victories in a row, I just don't see how that relationship can possibly be repaired. So let's leave that argument there, and focus on the bigger picture. As part of my due diligence, I decided to do as Mick suggested and listen to the Michael Calvin podcast with Stuart Webber from the start of September (if you're interested in doing the same, the Webber bit is from 20 minutes to around 52 minutes). Whatever you think of Stuart Webber, the one word that I think describes him best is 'driven'. On the podcast he mentions having been raised in a single-parent family, and having to walk a mile up a hill every morning to get a bus to school from the age of six. A minor detail, maybe, but that drive has taken him from helping the ground staff at Wrexham one day a week when he was 18, to being our Director of Football, via running Wrexham's academy, working with Kenny Dalglish and Joey Jones at Liverpool, taking Huddersfield to the Premier League, as well as spells at QPR and Wolves. He's been here five and a half years now, and he's still only 38 years old. (Here's another interesting article I'd not seen before about his career, which fills in a lot of that detail: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/little-known-welshman-linked-man-16412202) People quickly cottoned on to the '90%' comment, and took this to mean he wasn't fully committed to the club. I genuinely don't think that could be further from the truth. He tells an anecdote on the podcast about phone calls with Dan Ashworth to sign Isaac Hayden when he was at 4,000m above sea level – acclimatising to altitude is a big part of mountaineering, so he was actually spending several hours a day sitting in a hotel working once he'd done his climbing. He's mentioned before that he gets up at 5am every day, and does his training before he starts work. He's obviously a hugely motivated 'high achiever', and perhaps some of the discontent around the club may well be due to the exacting standards Webber sets himself, which then becomes expected of the people around him. He speaks at one point of finding the prospect of failure 'exciting'; this is another very common trait among high achievers, who are willing to experiment and court failure in pursuit of new and improved ways of working. And, of course, with being a massively motivated high achiever comes an unshakeable sense of self-belief which can easily be perceived as arrogance. It comes with the territory. And yes, it's true that he enjoyed talking a good game – from the infamous 'money pissed up the wall' statement when he first joined, to the more frequent media appearances when we were riding the Farke wave – but now seems to have disappeared into the background, not wanting to engage with fans or non-internal media sources. However, let's not forget that when he kicked off at those fans during the 'bedsheetgate' incident last season, there was one guy (who later apologised publicly, if I remember correctly?) who could be heard saying “Where's that c**t Webber?” before he came out to speak to them, and then when Webber challenged them as to whether they wanted a serious conversation, one of them said “no” and others continued to throw abuse at him. In that context, I was totally fine with his reaction to the situation. I can quite understand him now wanting to 'ignore the noise' and focusing on doing his job – and, similarly, I can quite understand the majority of the criticism coming his way for going silent now things aren't going his way. I can totally understand the questions that have been asked of our recruitment, especially in selling our biggest weapon in Buendia and trying to strengthen the squad with lesser players who so ignominiously failed to keep us up last season. And I can absolutely understand the criticism coming his way for appointing Dean Smith in the first place, and the seemingly 'shotgun wedding' nature of his appointment, and for his apparent perseverance with Deano when it's clear a point of no return has been reached. Another interesting topic of conversation comes later in the podcast, when they discuss his Everest plans in more detail. Calvin talks about his experiences of sailing around the world, and how once he'd completed his challenge it took him a year to “take sport seriously again”. Webber then recounts a meeting with another Everest climber, who said that the first question he asked Stuart was “have you thought about what you're going to do when you get back down again?”. Webber admits that he hadn't given it much thought before that conversation, but mentions that upon reflection he is quite prepared to “come back to nothing”, or to “restart in a different direction” with a new focus. He says that he appreciates everything he's had here (at Norwich), and would never want to let people down. This, to me, exemplifies why the '90%' myth is just that. So, in summary, I think it's unlikely that Stuart will still be here in a year's time, but in the meantime I believe he will be utterly bloody-minded in his desire to leave this club in the best position he possibly can. After all, it was him who found and engaged the Attanasios on behalf of Michael Foulger – and, in turn, this has deflected a lot of insecurity and criticism around the majority shareholders as to their succession plan. Even if (as looks likely) Webber ultimately fails to achieve his stated aim of establishing Norwich as a Premier League club, I think he has laid a lot of excellent groundwork – and his willingness to embrace failure and taking risks has been a big part of getting us there. If we continue to hold on to Dean Smith and/or the Attanasios walk away, we'll be pretty much back where we started when Webber joined in 2017, just with a Soccerbot and some slick academy facilities to show for it. A man of his self-belief and bloody-mindedness will be desperate to leave this club looking better than that. If he can cement his legacy in 2023 by appointing us a forward-thinking head coach and overseeing the Attanasios' further involvement to the point where a full takeover looks inevitable, I think we'll look back in a few years' time and realise that, for all his foibles, transfer failures and perceived arrogance, Stuart Webber will have left an impressive legacy for this football club.
  40. 25 points
    I nearly didn't make it today having strained a muscle during the week but I had a little practice on the bike and in the end decided to give it a go. Conditions were perfect for a decent game with hardly a breath of wind and with the visitors struggling for form I had the feeling it might be worth the effort. With Kenny on the sick list it was good to see Sorensen given a run out and with Sargent and Idah starting there was at least the prospect of some physical support fot Pukki. The opening minutes were quite encouraging with City having some good possession but it was mostly midfield stuff until PLM finally tested Pickford with a low shot that was comfortably saved. Gray was giving Aarons a problem down the Everton left but Krul had his angles covered when the shot came in from a narrow angle. There was plenty of strong running from Sargent and Idah and just after the quarter hour it paid off with City doing something they have found very difficult this season by taking the lead. Rashica carried the ball across the centre of the pitch and after interplay between Aarons and Sargent it was the latter who whipped a low cross in from the right that came off Keane and left Pickford stranded. I was almost tempted to take advantage of the stoppage to nip out for a wee but I'm glad I didn't because virtually from the restart Williams intercepted a through ball and set off into empty space down the City left. With defenders converging on him he played a superb low pass into the area for Idah to latch onto and poke the ball past the advancing Everton keeper for two nil. Eight goals in half a season then two in a minute, it was pandemonium at our end as the ball hit the back of the net. I was now thinking we needed to hold this until halftime and despite quite a bit of Everton pressure with corners and free kicks they managed the rest of the half with a certain degree of comfort as Tim Krul was rarely stretched into anything out of the ordinary. It was nice to have a halftime not filled with doom and gloom but although the visitors had rarely threatened, the City midfield had covered a lot of ground and expended a lot of energy in keeping things tight. I expected them to come at us as the second half began but it was the home side that almost struck another early blow. Idah earned a corner and when the ball was headed clear it fell nicely for PLM to volley from twenty yards. Unfortunately it was straight down the keepers throat. A minute later a poor everton back pass left Idah with only Pickford to beat but to the England keepers credit he was off his line like lightening and the chance came to nothing. The visitors were now having the bulk of possession and when Richarlison came on for Rondon on 55 minutes it added a touch of class and they began to look much more dangerous. On the hour a corner was headed clear but City couldn't complete the clearance and Richarlisons overhead kick gave Tim no chance. It was a different ball game now and it took a while for the crowd to whip up the noise and drive the boys on again. With lots of defending to do and some great blocks and tackles going in it was no surprise when first Williams and then Aarons had to limp off with what looked like leg injurues,. Thankfully both Byram and Giannoulis were able replacements as City fought hard to hold on to the lead as the minutes ticked away. Hanley was a rock in the middle as Everton banged the ball up to Richarlison and although many were now running on empty the City defence still managed to prevent the visitors from gaining a clear opening. There was an audible groan when seven minutes added time was signalled and I seemed to be checking my watch every fifteen seconds. There was some good running the ball into the corners from Idah and Pukki and the usual amount of Tim ****housery that did its job in winding up the visitors but in the final seconds it was City who had the big chance. Rashica broke clear on the halfway line and made tracks goalward. Teemu, whose legs had gone struggled to give an option down the middle but it was the winger who nearly went all the way as his low shot flicked off the outside of the post and out of play with Pickford beaten. Thankfully Andy Madely had seen enough and took mercy on those with weak tickers as the final whistle was greeted with rapture and relief. In many ways they might not be good enough but they fought until they dropped today and nobody can ask for more than that. Adam Idah my MOM, good goal, never stopped running and gave the front line a measure of physicality that has so often been missing this term. To be honest every man a hero today in a game that was on a knife edge. If you didn't get your moneys worth today you are never going to be satisfied. I shall be enjoying a small dram tonight.
  41. 25 points
    A very dull, damp and dark day here in Norwich and the lights were full on when I biked up to ground this afternoon. The team sheet with Cantwell and Gilmour was not much of a surprise as I had long thought that Farkes demise was as much do to personalities as to results. I expect we we all looking for some sort of new manager bounce today and at least some sign that we were good enough to compete in this league. Unfortunately we got a real slap in the face early on as the visitors cruised into a 3rd minute lead. A ball into the wide open spaces on the City right flank should have been cleared as it was worked into space for Adams to nudge the ball past Krul into the far corner. To their credit, City did liven up for a time and surprisingly got straight back in the picture in the seventh minute when Rashica combined nicely with Max Aarons and from the cut back Pukki was able to nip in at the corner of the six yard box and glance a perfect header in off McCarthy's near post. It got the crowd back on their feet with the expectation of more to come but we were to be cruelly disappointed as the visitors started to dictate proceedings to an almost embarrassing level. Both City flanks were wide open as wave after wave of red and white cut through the City rearguard forcing last gasp blocks and a succession of corners. City looked all at sea with little cohesion in midfield and nothing for the front runners to feed off. Thankfully Armstrong and Adams had forgotten their shooting boots as decent opportunities went begging and most of the on target stuff went straight at Tim Krul. It looked like just a matter of time before Southampton wrapped things up in such a one sided affair. I really needed binoculars because almost everything was happening a hundred yards away at the River End. By the half hour our penalty area was like a coconut shy andI was looking for a sofa to hide behind as yet another Southampton chance was skewed a yard wide. I have always liked Tod Cantwell but he was just not at the races at all today and bringing him back without match sharpness seemed to be a big mistake. The crowd got on his back after an error and that didn't help either. I was just praying that we could get to halftime without further damage and thanks to a magnificent save from Tim Krul we did. A sharp pass put Hanley in trouble and he lost possession to Diallo who had a free man either side of him. The ball was tee'd up for Adams and looked goal bound until Krul flew to his right to turn it away. Somehow we went in all square in what had been the most one sided affair I have seen at Carrow Rd for many a year. It looked like men against boys or two teams three leagues apart. City's goal was their only effort of the entire 45 minutes. Swapping Cantwell for Sargent was an easy choice and immediately you could see a difference. I don't know what Smith said to them at the break but it must have been along the lines of "show me if you are good enough" because the effect was instantaneous. City were quicker to the ball and the visitors seemed to wilt as the home side grew stronger. City began to dominate and at last corners were being won and shots were coming in. Rashica and Norman both tested McCarthy and it was Southampton who were having trouble to get any forward play going. The game was there to be won and Pukki almost did it when he scampered away on the right before bringing a flying save out of McCarthy at the near post, then a Normann twentfive yarder flew just over. On 79 minutes it was Rashica, who had been having a fine second half, won a corner on the City left, Gilmour trotted up to take it and the whole ground errupted as Hanley got on the end of his fighted ball at the far post. Ten or so minutes left and finally we were in front and had one hand on the three points. Saints pushed forward as City had to withstand some stiff pressure as the sand ran out of the hour glass and for the first time in a long while I was wishing the seconds to tick away. There was only one moment of real danger and that was right at the end when Walcott got on the end of a great cross but could only glance the ball a yard wide. I have seen a lot of strange games at CR over the years but I din't remeber anything like this afternoons tale of two halves. Chalk and cheese doesn't do it justice, it was like two entirely different games with the boys on in the first game and the men on in the second. We may still be not good enough in the end but it does give us something to cling to and that is more than enough at the moment. Hanley a bit rusty first half, a giant in the second, Pukki, fine goal and non stop running, Gilmour, got well into it today and Rashica, best game yet but my MOM today is Tim Krul, that save on the stroke of halftime made all the difference.
  42. 25 points
    Saudi money - on the back of misogyny, beheadings, bombing and starving the poor country next door, and generating the extreme form of Islamism that led to 9-11 I’ll stick with Delia
  43. 24 points
    Players ran into the ground for NCFC today. Terrific all over and the amount of second balls we won was exceptional. Gibson absolutely colossal at the back, reinforced by Duffy second half. Fans terrific throughout, got behind the team constantly. Management top drawer top to bottom. Got then motivated and ready to go after a poor Leicester game. Calm and collected throughout. Gibbs substitute perfectly timed. P.s - their fans were worse than when they came down here with Lambert. They deserve to mess it up.
  44. 24 points
    Stacey hit crosses that even Jesus Christ would like to be on the end of.
  45. 24 points
    I am a negative person. You will not be shocked to read that if you have read one of my posts in the last twelve months. I need to say the following: The 40 minutes we had last night in the third period are the most exciting signs I've seen since the Coventry game, despite the youthful Toulouse side we were up against. We had creativity, nous, flair and accuracy with what we were trying to do. It left me thinking that with Sara, Nunez and most interestingly, Tzolis (cutting in from the left to fill the half space pockets and positively impact the game) we might be on to something, I hope they don't sell Tzolis - I'm convinced there is a player in there. We look as if we should be as defensively solid as any Norwich side I can remember in recent history. I alluded to in the match thread. Not many Championship clubs would baulk at the idea of Duffy, Gibson and Hanley being the senior centre backs in the squad. Kellen Fisher is giving off serious 18/19 Max Aarons vibes and looks oven ready. Sargent will score goals IF he has enough chances created for him. He is a decent finisher - not on the Teemu level but he will score different goals - accurate, meaningful crossing is a must. I really, desperately want Adam Idah to do well. I hope one goes in off his **** against Hull and he goes on to score 20. If Aarons, Rashica and Omobamidele do leave - we will re-invest and dare I say be stronger for it (if our boy Stu spends it well...this window looks to be one of his hits so far - to his credit). Again, I am a negative person - no problems admitting that. But, I'm willing to give everyone a chance. I do fear the cauldron of Carrow Road is ready to bubble over and a few setbacks early doors should see to that. But this gobby internet mouth will try his hardest not to be a bubbler. Never mind the f'ing danger. Captain -------------- @littleyellowbirdie @hogesar From where can I collect my badge?
  46. 24 points
    Ten years ago (dear lord, is it really that long?!) I posted an analysis of how football finance had changed over time, generally, and in relation to Norwich City (and only in part to explain why the Chase and S&J eras cannot be sensibly compared without a great deal of context – not that it has stopped posters carrying on doing just that right up to now🤓). I will put a link at the bottom, but in broad terms the argument was as follows: That the old model which existed in the early decades after world war two, of clubs being funded by the success of the local economy, so in effect wealth produced by the community, was replaced by the influx of personal wealth, in the shape of very rich people. That roughly still applies but even so a fair bit has happened in the last ten years, with what seem to me some crucial developments (and I am indebted for some of the figures to Robin Sainty, who recently wrote a piece that chimed with thoughts I had been having for a while). The rich are getting richer Ten years ago I instanced Randy Lerner as owner of Aston Villa being worth in the hundreds of millions. The current big cheese at Villa is worth in the billions. Everton used to be the plaything of Bill Kenwright, with £33m. Now it is Farhad Moshiiri, with £8.9bn. Crystal Palace’s Steve Parrish, another comparative pauper, has acquired £3.3bn Joshua Harris to help out. It’s a corporate world Back when Burnley won the Division One title in 1959-60 the chairman/owner was Bob Lord, a butcher who ended up with 14 shops locally. Fourteen! Increasingly now clubs are being bought not by a single rich fan but by families/corporations as part of a portfolio. Such as the Glazers with Manchester United and John Henry’s company, already owner of the Boston Red Sox, with Liverpool. This has brought a different reality and a different mindset. A rich person by themselves, no matter how well off, has only their own money to use, which necessitates a certain caution, or should do, though frequently does not, as any number of cases prove. The corporate tycoon, often with the football club as only part of their business, can act more boldly (as well, if listed on a stock market, as Man Utd are, as having an extra means of finance). One way in which this manifests itself is by knowingly and willingly going heavily into debt. It is perfectly common in big business for companies to have large debt. It isn’t particularly scarifying for them. And debt and publicly traded share issues are the two main ways of raising money for expansion. The contrasting constraints for Norwich City, not keen on owing even a comparatively modest amount of money for any great length of time and not listed on a stock market, hardly need spelling out. Rules? What rules? You don't have rules in a knife-fight! And these advantages/absences of constraints allow and often engender a more buccaneering and risk-taking approach to business not just financially but in terms of breaking the rules or at least stretching them very close to breaking point. As one US hotelier infamously said, ‘Only the little people pay taxes.’ Although she ended up in jail. One must be careful here, but it seems clear that some clubs with ultra-rich and/or corporate owners have broken or sailed very close to breaking FFP rules to get promoted from the Championship and/or to stay in the Premier League. Anecdotally (so not necessarily specifically true but certainly suggestive of a general truth) it was said that Villa could have been in financial difficulties if they had not stayed up that first season back (thanks to VAR going AWOL), and equally that Watford’s recent firing of their coach was for the same reason. And the examples of Derby County and Reading and several others show this kind of gamble, which is only sustainable if promotion is achieved, is rife in the Championship. In 2016, after Brighton had announced a £25.9m loss for a season in which they had failed to get promoted (with the FFP loss £39m over three seasons but some bits of losses are allowable) owner Tony Bloom summarized the dilemma and the subsequent temptation: "Our ambition remains for the club's teams to play at the highest level possible. As chairman (and lifelong supporter of the club), I will do everything I possibly can to achieve that and remain fully committed. Any Championship club without parachute payments wishing to compete for promotion will inevitably make significant losses. It remains a delicate balancing act for the board as we strive to achieve our ultimate aim." Brighton then got promoted and have never been charged with breaking FFP, but it is a fair guess that if they hadn’t gone up the cost of another failed attempt would have been problematic. The temptation, to which too many fall, is to double down and throw even more money at another bid for promotion in pursuit of that most misnamed of dreams – the promised land that supposedly is the Premier League, hoping that any FFP punishment will either be delayed or insignificant compared with the TV riches to come. As Robin Sainty points out, having survived a winding-up petition from HMRC in January, ‘’Derby County are in administration, having accrued a reported £28m debt to the taxman as well as a £15m secured loan from an offshore company, while Reading face a deduction of up to nine points.’’ But the figures in the Championship are dwarfed by the eye-watering debts and losses racked up by the supposed elite clubs. ‘’Barcelona have announced a loss of €481m, taking their total debt to a barely conceivable €1.3bn, while in the UK, Spurs have external debt of £831m, Manchester United owe £526m and Liverpool £268m.’’ Turns out the sky blue’s not the limit One might have thought the wealth of the owners (not to mention the size of their losses and debts) could not go any higher, but now we have clubs being bought by companies that are to a greater or lesser extent linked to the governments of oil-rich countries. And even there the purchase of Man City by an Abu Dhabi fund headed by a senior government figure didn’t set the ceiling. At the stroke of a pen the de facto head of the Saudi Arabian government has made Newcastle United the richest club on the planet. Leaving aside (only for now) the morality of such blatant sports-washing, this development only confirms that the racheting-up effect that has taken place in world football generally but in the top two tiers of English football particularly has not stopped. Mary Trump, the psychologist niece of Donald, wrote a book about him and the whole family entitled ‘Too Much and Never Enough’. Which is a pretty accurate summary of finances in the Premier League. Even though unsustainably vast amounts of money are being thrown at clubs this upward spiral means it can never be sufficient. There will always be a new and bigger deal that, as it were, trumps, the previous ones. Unless and until, as Sainty suggests, the whole gravity-defying circus comes crashing down. Poor but honest? If the circus collapses our Good Life self-sufficiency will be hailed as the model that should have been followed all along. But even if that were to happen football would not go back to some prelapsarian non-capitalist world of purely local community clubs. Manchester United have come a long way from being the works team of a railway company; Arsenal ditto from a Woolwich munitions factory; and Norwich City ditto from the amateur imaginings of some Edwardian gentlemen in a city café. Money would not stop being the key factor it always has been. So unless and until, what faces our club? It can go on with its model. It works, and with good management should go on working. There has been much talk, prompted by the Saudi deal, of morality in football, but the often forgotten moral imperative and first duty for those running any kind of business is to keep it running and not imperil it with vainglorious gambles. By its nature our self-sufficiency model avoids the dangers of financial over-reach and subsequent administration and points penalties such as those listed in far from exhaustive detail above. But it is also of its nature limiting (and probably will be increasingly so) and even now everything has to work well for the club to keep its current (yo-yo) place in the football pyramid, and work perfectly for it to progress. Fortunately the unlikeliest alternative is a takeover by one of the oil-rich states yet to decide they need some sports-washing. That seemingly leaves only a very wealthy someone, or something. Anyone who has read the recent expert contributions by @Badger to the ownership debate will know two truths. That most would-be buyers of football clubs, whether individuals or corporations, want and expect to make money out of their investment, or at the very least not to lose out. And, such is the upside-down world of football finance, that well-run, debtless, ground-owning Norwich City is a less tempting proposition than basket cases such as Derby County and Ipswich Town, or Sunderland. A third truth is that even if some altruist were willing to buy us, the ‘too much and never enough’ racheting-up process would not guarantee success. We might be better off but still be bottom of the Premier League Rich List. And the temptation to rolling-the-dice gambling would be there. As it stands, the only plan known publicly is that Tom Smith will receive S&J’s 53 per cent majority shareholding. A common assumption is that this plan is set in stone, and that Smith will carry on self-sufficiency exactly as before. I do not believe the plan is fixed, and as far as how he might run the club I have no idea, knowing next to nothing about him, although that hasn’t stopped fans who seems to know as little as I do being certain about what he will do, and his ability, or more often his lack of it, to run a football club. If I had his ear I would suggest another alternative. A version of self-sufficiency that was community-based, recognising the role of the club in Norfolk as a whole, with some finance from a group of well-disposed local people in business, and genuine – as opposed to lip service - fan involvement and power (a golden-share veto?) in decision-making. Would that please all fans? Hardly. The extra finance would certainly not be anywhere near too much, and definitely never enough. We would still be poor but honest. Just not quite as church-mouse poor but honest as we are now. - https://forum.pinkun.com/index.php?/topic/69368-big-bob-v-delia-the-verdict/&tab=comments#comment-959966 -
  47. 24 points
    Words from the boss on this signing - Head coach Daniel Farke said: “We’re really happy to have Josh with us. He’s at a young age with lots of potential. There was a lot of interest in him, so we must pay many compliments to Stuart Webber for getting this deal done. “Josh has a lot of experience in the top level in the Bundesliga in Germany and has been there with many goals and assists. He has also scored goals for his national team. “He’s a very good striking option for us but is someone who can also play on the wing. He has pace and is also good with his head. We know he is always there with a big workload and has a fantastic character. His left foot is complete and utter shoite as rightly pointed out by a fan who watched a 3 minute video, but we really like his right duke. “We know we have to be a bit more creative in the transfer market. We think we have a player in Josh who can contribute and develop into a top goalscorer on Premier League level. We see his potential and are delighted to have him with us.”
  48. 24 points
    Afternoon guys...Good to see you back. Looking forward to seeing you again this year as you play decent football and nobody needs any more West Brom's in the PL! Chelsea fan here as expected coming on to wish you all the best with Billy G. You have secured a gem and if he stays injury free you will see the quality immediately in the same way that James Maddison shone - in truth I am really shocked we loaned him out. Billy has amazing awareness for his age and you will quickly see his head is constantly on a swivel and most importantly he is always looking to keep possession but play forward wherever possible. His anticipation of space is superb and he hardly ever gives possession away. Defensively he is rarely caught out and was easily MOTM against Liverpool last year - no mean feat with those 2 midfields! He is mobile and likes to dominate the central third of the pitch and will link your play together and impact every aspect of your team play. He has been compared to Kante but I don't see that myself as he doesn't run with the ball in the way Ngolo does but If I had to find a comparison for him I would genuinely say he reminds me of a young Paul Scholes. Before I'm physically attacked clearly he needs to add goals to be in the frame with a great like Scholes but he has everything else and operates in a similar fashion. He now needs to add those forward runs that Scholes and Lamps were masters at and I'm hoping to see him develop with your team this year. You certainly play the way that should allow him to flourish. Wishing you all the best for the season guys - a proper club, proper ground and that Delia clip still makes me smile every time! Chatting to a mate of mine he said he would compare Billy to Modric in his early days at Spurs...well, if he becomes half the player Luka did I'd take that!
  49. 23 points
    You've got laugh at the pure ego of Norwich City Fans. One of the top clubs in the country, nay, in Europe, is interested in our Sporting Director and it doesn't create even a slight amount of self-reflection in considering that maybe Webber is actually highly respected and good at his job.
  50. 23 points
    Nice to see him pictured alongside his successful signings from last summer.
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