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  1. 22 points
    I have had several posters ask me recently to write a piece about my early supporting days back in the early 1950’s and as we are in the fairly quiet time between seasons I thought I would give it a go. This part I call "How it all started" My Grand parents lived in King Street and many years it was the family meeting place before going off to the match. I must have been six or seven years old when I first became curious about “The Canaries” or “Carrow Road”. I think it all started while listening to bits of excited conversation between my dad and my uncles on Saturday lunchtimes in the early 1950’s. The excited tones must have got through to me because I soon began to pester my dad to take me to a match. My dad was an engraver and sign writer and couldn’t leave the shop on Saturdays so my first trip down to Carrow Road was with my uncle Bert and my cousin Mike. Now many people say they have vivid recollections of their first game but in all honestly I can’t recall very much other than I think it was a pre-season game which they used to call Possibles v Probables. I can’t remember the score or anything other than the surge of noise and excitement every time the ball got near the goalmouth and I was pretty much hooked on it from that first moment. This was in the decade following WW2 and apart from the football, the cinema and radio there wasn’t a great deal in the way of entertainment. Not that many could afford it anyway, the country was skint and food rationing was only now coming to an end. I think this was the 1953/54 season and although I was taken to three or four league matches I have very little recollection of them now. What I can remember are the names, Tom Johnstone, Alfy Ackerman, Johnny Gavin and Bobby Brennan. I have no visual memories of the first two but the latter two were to become my earliest hero’s. In the early 1950’s the kick off time was 3.15pm while it was light enough and then 2.15pm once the clocks went back. Floodlit matches didn’t start until the latter part of the decade. We used to head off down King St, past innumerable pubs, shops and factories, the vast majority which have passed into memory. Rouen Road didn’t exist at that time, just a multitude of little lanes and alleys that ran all the way down from Ber St. The whole area was a maze of Victorian terraces, interspersed with the odd open space still evidencing the scale of the bombing that had scarred our City a decade before. As a small boy I found enormous pleasure in exploring those narrow alleys with their flights of steps going up to different levels and with shops and pubs on every corner. The crowds would stream down them on match days and at each junction with King St. hundreds more were added to the ever increasing throng headed for Carrow Bridge, for there was no other way across the Wensum, except at Thorpe Station. There seemed to be a pub every fifty yards or so, The Builders Arms, The Tuns, The Ship, The Old Barge, The Wherry, The Ferry Boat, The Kingsway and probably a few more that I’ve forgotten. The abiding smell was of beer from the pubs and Breweries and tobacco smoke because virtually every man had a fag or a pipe on the go and everyone seemed to wear a hat or a cap and a gabardine raincoat. Nowadays it’s fashionable to turn up in the latest replica kit or during inclement weather, a woolly NCFC hat with matching gloves and scarf. Back in the 50’s most fans just came in their ordinary daily clothes and just occasionally you would see somebody with a home knitted yellow and green scarf. For FA Cup games you might see a few rosettes and of course wooden clackers that seem now to have largely passed into history. The bright modern stadium we see today bares little resemblance to the Carrow Road of the 1950’s. It was then a fairly drab looking structure with dark painted fencing and wooden turnstiles. It looked exactly what it was, something that had been knocked together in double quick time without thought for any long term utility. What will always remain in the memory are the huge green painted iron gates that used to be swung open by groundsman Russell Alison just after halftime. There were always a few who couldn’t afford it and would creep in and see part of the game for free. The terraces were just large earth mounds covered in grass at the rear with two or three sets of concrete steps leading up to the summit. The fencing at the back of the terracing was simply a line of elongated railway sleepers set on end with the occasional bit of advertising hoarding on top. It wasn’t permitted but at big matches people would climb on these for a better view. We usually entered from Carrow Road into the ground ( I think it was either nine pence or maybe a shilling for boys) and then went up the side steps onto the River End terrace. This was only partially concreted and for many years a large potion of the standing terracing consisted of railway sleepers. We called it the River End for obvious reasons but in reality it was part of “The Ground” as you could stand anywhere right round as far as the corner of the Barclay for the same price. It was all open terracing; the only cover was the Barclay and Main stand. In the corner where they built the Disabled stand was a curved bit of terracing that stood beneath the old Pinkun Score-board. It was a large black painted structure with letters from A to Z painted on it. At halftime a man would come out of a little door and hang numbers on hooks underneath each letter. If you had a programme you could match up the games with the letters on the board. You may well laugh but that was the state of technology at the time. Mobile phones and the Internet were something out of the Eagle comic and Dan Dare “Pilot of the Future”. You had no knowledge at all of other games and results unless you got home in time for Sports Report on the BBC at five o’clock. You could not enter the ground from directly behind the South stand because there was a water filled **** that ran up from the river. I think this was still there even into the 1970’s. We used to walk round from the River End and stand half a dozen rows back and directly in line with the penalty area. I think that is why many of my early memories are of goals scored at that end. One that always sticks in my mind is Bobby Brennan’s opening goal against Sheffield Utd in the ’59 Cup run. After the South Stand was covered in 1960 I used to move to which ever end we were shooting in and change at half time because that decade was mainly a dull time and there was nearly always plenty of room. It was during that time when we said goodbye to the railway sleepers and all of the terracing was concreted. In the early days there was a concrete slope that you could use to exit the South stand if you wanted to leave by the Thorpe End. When the Stand was improved and extended this was eliminated and you could only get out at the corner through a smallish opening that led to a narrow flight of steps. At the final whistle there was a rush for this exit and you were squeezed out above a precarious 30 foot drop. Thankfully there was a strong steel barrier to save the unwary. The back of the Barclay was just a grass covered mound with steps leading up. There were brick toilets in both corners I think and a large wooden building serving as a bar for half-time refreshment which consisted mainly of bottles of Steward and Patterson’s Light Ale. When the second half resumed there would be hundreds of empty bottles left on the shelves that ran along the front of the bar. If it rained hard you had the choice of the Barclay Stand and at any time during the match you had the option to pay either three-pence or sixpence to transfer through a little gate in the fencing to get under cover. If I went in the Barclay I liked to stand to the right of goal and it was from here that I have a strong memory of standing with my dad in 1960 the night we beat Southend 4-3 to gain promotion to Division 2. We lived just off Plumstead Road at the time and used to get the 92 bus to Rosary corner. We would walk back and he would tell me stories about the old days when City played at the Nest on Rosary Road . Because of his work he could only get to evening matches so those few occasions that we stood together are especially treasured in my memory. I remember him taking me to the first ever floodlit match atCarrow Road in 1957. It was a friendly against Sunderland, I still have the programme. The façade of the main stand was the only brick built structure. The seating was mostly wooden forms with a numbered space. Only the centre block had tip up wooden seats but that was for the toffs and well out of our reach. In front of the seated area was a narrow standing terrace about ten steps wide that was called The Enclosure. You could get a transfer into it from the ground for a small sum. I stood in there a few times but I only ever recall going in the main stand on one occasion. That was on a rather chilly Boxing Day in 1958 when my dad decided it would be a Christmas treat. We played Reading and Roy McCrohan scored the only goal with 25 yard scorcher at the Barclay End. It’s over sixty years ago but I can still see it as though it was yesterday and it still brings a tear to my eye when I think of it. I'm sorry if it's a bit long but once I started the memories came flooding back and I found it hard to stop.
  2. 11 points
    It's a **** version of Big Brother, full of no mark tosspots trying to be famous by being tosspots. Epitome of everything wrong with society today. None of them are coming over well because they're all self-obsessed ****wits. The only way any of us win is if Kim Jong-Un nukes the entire island.
  3. 8 points
    I don't know how the person who took this photo got their pet elephant up to the top floor of the Holiday Inn.
  4. 8 points
    Genuinely can we keep the softcore **** to the one thread? Some of us like to view this forum on our breaks at work and I'm currently unsure as to what thread I can open in the office without risking some uncomfortable questions. It really isn't too much to ask.
  5. 8 points
    Morning All I know this is a real shot in the dark but I don't suppose anyone could point me to a service for writing university work / just getting a diploma could they? I have looked everywhere and just cannot find a link. Any help much appreciated.
  6. 7 points
  7. 7 points
    Telling someone with an addiction disorder to ‘get some willpower’ is like telling someone with depression to ‘pull yourself together and cheer up’.
  8. 7 points
    Shows how beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I think they look awful!
  9. 6 points
    I think you're being cruel to a man who took Derby from lowly 6th place to the dizzying heights of 6th place.
  10. 6 points
    oh dear oh dear looks like some of the more simple among us may have missed the joke here
  11. 5 points
    Have to say how impressed I am with the entire club top to bottom. Refreshing change in recruitment focussing on quality youth products being coached into our first team. Some very good youngsters there and added to this window. This Under 23 team would thump 4 or 5 past that binners 11, so hope we get them in the caraboa cup! Would be a great laugh to see our stars of tomorrow stuff the binners.
  12. 5 points
    The problem with the railway car parks is that it is a first come first serve basis. if they introduced a priority £50 member ship scheme all would be well
  13. 5 points
    I'm seeing too many people on here getting nervous and worried about next season......THERE IS NO NEED! Ok, I know I'm clueless about football, I know I talk alot of guff (sometimes) but sometimes you just have to say.....COME ON!!!!! Stop mithering about the Premier blessed league and embrace the challenge. Enjoy it for goodness sakes, that was the message last season.....ENJOY IT! The challenge is there to be relsihed not to be timid and think we are just a little club in the east of England and how on earth are we going to compete against the mighty PL clubs.... What's the worst that can happen anyway? We could get relegated again....and that is what the pundits expect (and want) so it would be no surprise to anyone......so why the need for being worried? Are we desperate to stay up.....or is it a fantastic opportunity to have a free hit at the PL....even if we got relegated the club has a fantastic set up now for getting back up again. So if anyone out there is worried.....DON'T WORRY!!! BE HAPPY!! Pep talk over.
  14. 5 points
    I disagree with the criticisms above. Interviews come in a wide variety of shapes and sizes from the ruthless interrogations (Paxman) to the cosy chats (Soccer Am). There are pros and cons to whichever way you do it but, having watched pretty much every interview going with SW I would say that you're being churlish if you think nothing new emerged from this. Perhaps a few people are guilty of being sneery because they resent seeing other passionate supporters enjoying this opportunity?
  15. 5 points
  16. 5 points
    Have we not, as Englishmen, all made the same type of joke about Scotland on a regular basis over the course of our lives? Besides, it's been well established that Murray made that comment in the run up to the 2006 World Cup after Tim Henman sitting next to him took the **** because Scotland weren't there. Holding that joke against Murray 13 years later isn't really justified.
  17. 5 points
    I think it's a shortsighted view. OK, we can invest in the playing squad, gain £1.9m by finishing 15th instead of 16th or whatever, and we'll reinvest the money straight back in the playing squad and aim for the same thing next year. Then, fast forward to 2025, and no matter how established we are, we'll still end up getting relegated eventually anyway. Stoke, West Brom and Swansea showed last year despite being established sides with ten, nine and seven consecutive years respectively that clubs of our size will always recycle themselves between the top two tiers. But oh well, at least we have that £1.9m in the bank still from five years earlier, thanks to the £15m striker we bought from the sale of Max Aarons, instead of putting the money towards a new stand. Oh wait! No we don't. We gave it to a new signing as a loyalty bonus, so now we have no £1.9m, we've been relegated, the City Stand is decaying, the season ticket holders are in their 70s and no teenager has been able to get regular tickets at any point in their childhood. Meanwhile the other sides have been improving off the pitch as well as on, they have bigger and better grounds than us now, and we've just been twiddling our thumbs as Carrow Road got neglected, the season ticket holders got older and the next generation couldn't get tickets. Also, is there anyone out there who is thinking 'Bloody hell, what a waste of money the Jarrold Stand was! We could've spent that money on new players and been a Premier League regular by now with several European campaigns.' Anyone? I'm guessing not. We're all looking back and thinking what a fantastic long term investment it was. Imagine the state of the ground, and to a lesser extent the club, if we still had a 20,000 capacity ground that was out of date. Prospective new signings wouldn't be impressed, revenue streams would be down and our standing as a club would be lower. You have to keep moving forward in order to not fall backwards. It's a shortsighted view to not invest in the ground now, as we're guaranteed £100m in TV money this year and we can easily gain £40-50m next summer by selling any two out of Aarons, Godfrey, Lewis or Buendia. A new stand would cost a fraction of the amount we'll bring in over the next 12 months, and even if it meant having a smaller playing budget, we'll be glad we did it in 20 years' time, when the population of the city has risen again, younger fans can get tickets to set the club up for future generations, the ground is comparable to other clubs our size who have all invested and our club has seen a general reputation boost (or maybe just not a decline) as a result of investing in more modern facilities. Even if we make a slight loss now, it needs to be done for long term success.
  18. 5 points
    I'm making a Goan seafood vindaloo this evening. Tomorrow is going to be challenging.
  19. 4 points
    Had a reply to my letter today in the form of a phone call from Ben Kensell. He explained the situation again, pretty much in line with what he has said already in interviews, but I pushed him on the having to buy two memberships as an exile and that there ought to be an option for some kind of joint membership being available at less cost than the £100 outlay I and others will have to pay to enter the ticket lottery. He wouldn't say much on that other than to say that I should be able to get tickets when I want them, as long as I get in early in the process each sales window. So that is how it will have to be for this season. Very good to talk to him and appreciated the personal touch of a phone call. He stressed he wanted feedback on how things go with getting tickets so it will be interesting to see what happens through the season......but I shall be very disappointed if I shell out £100 for nothing and will let him know that! Time to get on with it now, but there is no doubt in my mind the reaction to the scheme got a lot more negative feedback than the club thought. Plainly there will be more consultation with fans and hopefully lessons learned, but the proof of the pudding for me will be if I get enough tickets to justify the £100 outlay.
  20. 4 points
    To ensure that we smash Ipswich in the EFL Trophy.
  21. 4 points
    I have to question that. Pukki was a gem of a player at Brondby known for his brilliant one touch finishes. He had done well at Schalke and it was only at Celtic that he struggled - yet still scored 7 goals in 26 matches there too. Brondby wanted him to stay too. I remember looking at this when he came to us and thinking wow, what a player. So he was pretty special already!
  22. 4 points
    Liam's an arrogant c0ck that knows he's an arrogant c0ck and embraces it. Noel is a pretentious, arrogant c0ck without the self-awareness to realise it.
  23. 4 points
    Stay where we are and rebuild the City stand. There is no transport infrastructure to move it out of the city to a desolate wasteland where there are no pubs,restaurants etc to provide for 30,000 plus fans.
  24. 4 points
    TBH I like that the ground is in the centre of the city. So for me I hope it stays where it is. The city then has a buzz rather than out of town where the surroundings are soleless. We have all been to grounds where that is the case and it is pretty uninspiring. With only one sporting arena in the city it would be a major loss of atmosphere, if a cricket ground, rugby stadium or an arena was in the city then you could argue for it. But for me relocation is not needed. The Jarrold stand has been built with the option of possible expansion with an upper tier if I remember. But happy with CR at the moment.
  25. 4 points
    I think Dickens wrote something about the relative performance of East Anglian teams last season. "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way..."