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  1. 9 points
    It just seems strange to me is all, crying for someone you never knew She was the mother of the nation - the figurehead at the head of the country that was always above the nonsense of politics and politicians so a very important part of the workings of the country, a fantastic ambassador for the UK around the world, a plainly lovely lady whose smile was always full and sincere, the knowledge and experience she had about her position was incredible, a hugely influential person who carried out her duties with 100% comittment ever since she was old enough to know what they were - and that is since 1938 when her father came to the throne - 84 years. No retirement, always focussed, never let her guard down, always stayed in control through the terrible times in her personal and family life - and showed a kind of love and devotion in her duties to the country that can only be wondered at. Look at the smile she had on her face in that photo of her with Liz Truss just two days ago, full of life and radiance as always. She was a huge figure at the head of the country and has been since before the second world war. I've never been a staunch royalist either, but in recent years, I've grown to appreciate her more and more - the historical aspects of her life and the monarchy are astonishing - and although, as you say, we never knew her personally, she was like a distant relative you knew all about and felt an affinity to. She has seen it all and given her whole life to her duty and position, so yes, she was worth a tear or two.
  2. 7 points
    The more I think about this the more it just seems unecessary, especially given the guidance issued this morning made it clear it was not necessary/expected that events would be cancelled. You now have a situation where people are working, going to school and continuing as normal today and will do so next week and yet the things that bring those people a bit of enjoyment and light relief at the weekend (at a time when they might need it) are being cancelled due to authorities feeling the need to do so in order to show respect. Hundreds of thousands of people being inconvenienced in the process. They really should have just had 2 minutes silence and renditions of God Save the Queen at all sports events and uit would have been a more fitiing tirbute that brings everyone together. Instead we all seem to be expected to sit in a dark room mourning and then go back to work next week. And I say this as a pro monarchist and as someone who had huge respect for the Queen.
  3. 5 points
    Hayden can get another solid week's training in. Byram and Sara can mix a bit of intense training with recovery. Some positives to take from an enforced lay-off.
  4. 5 points
  5. 4 points
    You aren't ever happy with anything though really are you.
  6. 4 points
    I think people just need to stop bitching and moaning either way. It is what it is, stop acting like children and accept that the games will be played at a later date 🙄🙄
  7. 3 points
    It's not a question of resilience, it's a question of respect. People are choosing to stop to mark the significance of the event, like the monarchy or not this is an historic event that has caused a global reaction, look at the response from some of the people around the world and then try to tell me this isn't significant and doesn't deserve a modicum of recognition. I don't believe there should be no sport before the funeral (horse racing may be different due to her connection with it) but to postpone one round of matches is certainly not an over reaction.
  8. 3 points
    Whether you are a supporter of the Royal Family or not, a week or so to reflect on 70 years of public service, is a small price to pay, a very classy and extremely well liked person loved by the vast majority, throughout the world.
  9. 3 points
    It's an historic event for the country whether people agree with the monarchy or even care, her successor will not engender the same feelings so the period of mourning and massive state funeral will not happen again. IMO this is the beginning of the end of the monarchy as we know it which in itself marks a place in history.
  10. 3 points
    That's a strange way of looking at it. People lose their mothers every day, but I doubt they get offended by the thought of Walsall playing Gillingham the next day.
  11. 3 points
    Is it not more of a tribute to her that things continue and therefore people can show respect at each event? She seemed to pride herself on never stopping... And clearly when close to her death bed, and most likely feeling beyond crap - she was swearing in the new leader. I just feel that many events up and down the country celebrating her is just a far more positive testament, personally.
  12. 2 points
    I'm sad to hear of The Queen's passing. I don't consider myself a royalist, but I think she did a pretty good job for 70 years. She was held in high regard around the world. I have found it quite touching that I have had people come up to me during the last 24 hours to offer condolences. RIP 😔
  13. 2 points
    The defender of the faith and head of our state has died, it would be inconceivable that trivia like sport should continue
  14. 2 points
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  16. 2 points
    Of course it's a big event Ian, nobody is denying that, nor the fact that she was a remarkable figure and a great servant to the country. The point are simple ones, however: 1. Pubs, clubs, betting shops and everything else is open as normal - why should sport alone stop? 2. Not everybody shares our belief about the Queen, why should we impose our beliefs upon them and restrict their freedom of action. Other peoples' views and belies have value as well.
  17. 2 points
    Well that sure is one way of making it absolutely clear you do not have the faintest idea what is going on here...
  18. 2 points
    But you have 🤔 If you don't want to read people's rambling opinions then forums possibly are not for you.
  19. 2 points
    They're even cancelling grassroots. Kids being stopped from playing football. Really pathetic.
  20. 2 points
    My only word on this subject. Yesterday the new PM launched a policy that will have an impact on the nation for probably 50 plus years, yet our MP's are not going to get to debate it properly at all now. Meanwhile millions of people continue to worry about how they will pay for their food after 1 October. If King Chuck III had any moral compass at all, he'd tell everyone to get the **** on with their lives. But he'll just bend to his advisor's instructions from number 10 and play along with the rituals and pomp of State? 🤔 There's this song written by one of the most right wing guys in the country right now, showing at least in the UK people are allowed to change their views over time. I apologise in advance if this is seen as in bad taste, but I think its just a very good song. For now though, RIP Your Majesty.
  21. 2 points
    Shame we couldn't do music albums Dean Smith's 'The Queen is Dead'
  22. 2 points
    The power of the EFL compels you
  23. 2 points
    I don’t quite get the blanket cancellation thing - society is far different from last time a monarch died. Imo it’s far more meaningful to show respect via different ways. The day of the funeral should be a quasi bank holiday, the rest is overkill.
  24. 2 points
    It seems not. A 96 year-old lady had passed away and some people want everything to stop. Whatever one thinks of the Queen, you'd have thought that the nation would be able to function more normally but it seems that there is very little resilience at all.
  25. 2 points
    I have been criticised before for coming late to a topic. Here I am late again. I am a republican but it has been recognised by many of us that the Queen did a very good job . I am also rather old so please don't assume the differences in opinion are generational. However a period of mourning 11 days up to the funeral I think seems appropriate to me. So let's all accept that a few postponed football matches are small beer compared with 70 years service. The bigger question for the country and the commonwealth is what will follow. I have been surprised by the number of people on this forum who have expressed reservations about the monarchy. Meanwhile poor people have been asked today to find another £10 a week for energy whilst energy firms are forecast to make £170 billion excess profits with no extra tax. Fortunately that gross policy is now confined to the inside pages of the newspapers. Every cloud and all that ......
  26. 2 points
    Completely agree. It’s not disrespectful to play football in these circumstances at all. I’ll still be working and I can’t see parents of the kids I teach supporting any decision to shut school for a few days so they can mourn. The national anthem is appalling and I never sing it. It represents nothing other than the institutions of the church and the monarchy. As an atheist non royalist it’s like me singing how much I love Ipswich.
  27. 2 points
    I had a tear in my eye at the news, what's wrong with that?
  28. 2 points
    I echo this Ron. In a strange way I've always felt like she has been a kind of grandmother for everyone, and not just for people in the UK either. Also she has reached out to different cultures gaining respect. I've always had the sense that she had a great sense of humour coupled with a rare wisdom. To be neutral in life, to somehow be open to everyone is a very hard thing to do. Hard to be like that on a forum. She has demonstrated a detachment at times when she must have had strong views. So her death does feel like a part of a world gone, and mostly because what she seemed to represent was rare in a person. Nobody could have done it better.
  29. 2 points
    Simply the best. I cannot imagine anyone fulfilling that role any better. I feel genuinely sad. Not for her, 96 & still bright as a button to the end, it's all any human being can ask for. But another part of my world has gone & it's another reminder of my own mortality. R.I.P. Queen Elizabeth. You were truly remarkable.
  30. 2 points
    Would think your opinion is way off the opinion of the majority of true UK citizens who appreciate the work our Queen did for the United Kingdom and Commonwealth
  31. 2 points
    FFS, no ones asking him to sodding play 🙄
  32. 2 points
    The opportunity to manage a top European club may never come again for Potter. You can't blame him, really.
  33. 2 points
    Far from a fool. He signed wee Billy at Brighton, so that's one less issue for him to solve at Chelsea!
  34. 2 points
    "potter is a fool"
  35. 2 points
    Hardly foolish. He, like all managers, knows he is only ever one bad run away from being sacked. His bank account just got an awful lot larger and will ensure comfort after he’s forgotten in the game. It’s not what I would want - loyalty is no longer part of the game- but it makes a lot of sense from his perspective
  36. 2 points
  37. 2 points
    And added 10 million to his new clubs kitty. Bit like on the old Champ Managers when you'd create a new manager, take over Man Utd and make them buy Shaun Carey for £5 million before retiring.
  38. 2 points
    Maybe Potter knew what was coming and signed him so he wasn't on Chelsea's books anymore. Football genius
  39. 1 point
    The vast majority of people I know, and particularly those with an IQ above 100 seem to agree that this whole thing is being taken far too seriously. She was 96. Was god supposed to save her indefinitely? There are genuine problems in the world - not least the many elderly people who will die this winter as a direct result of government policy - which are far more deserving of our attention. I fail to understand (nor have I seen anyone even attempt to make a reasoned argument) why it could be considered 'disrespectful' for football or indeed any other activity to continue. However, football itself is also fairly insignificant in the scheme of things so it's really not worth getting worked up over, either way.
  40. 1 point
    If you mean this Saturday then that is incorrect- Rugby and Cricket both taking place on Saturday.
  41. 1 point
    Not that many people are indifferent; it's a huge majority genuinely grieving a great public servant versus a minority of haters of little account. Nobody's going to turn on the monarchy for a missed football game after the death of our monarch of 70 years.
  42. 1 point
    Nobody really has to explain it to you, though. It's happening whether you like it or not. It's 10 days of mourning because that's what happens when the monarch of the UK dies. Get over it.
  43. 1 point
    Surely you mean King Charles III Road now?
  44. 1 point
    I hate that phrase - if people want to pay respect to the Queen, wear poppies at Remembrance time, sing the national anthem etc, they should be respected for their beliefs not accused of "virtue signalling."
  45. 1 point
    I think that whatever peoples views are on the monarchy, most people respected the Queen for how she conducted herself during her reign. I do though think mass cancellations of sporting events is unnecessary and hope we are not going to see all our games prior to the funeral called off.
  46. 1 point
    Thank you for your service and dedication to our country and the commonwealth. In times of trouble and strife you were always calm, and dignified, so many people looked to you for support, your support was your own faith. A remarkable woman, Thank you, ma’am.
  47. 1 point
    Ten days of enforced mourning seems rather anachronistic to me. When I was young, not long after the war, the United Kingdom probably really was a united kingdom, and the vast majority of people sincerely loved the Royal Family as a symbol of it. I think there would have a real grass-roots swelling of feeling and a desire to collectively mourn rather than have it decreed from on high. But the UK has fragmented and divided in so many ways since then and I suspect the number of people who deeply care about the Royals is a minority, and possibly a small minority. Like almost everything public these days, the period of mourning will be largely performative rather than deeply felt, at least for most people. As others have said on here, if people can't go to sports events, they'll go shopping instead. Is this really how we want the country to mourn? By buying more crap it doesn't need?
  48. 1 point
    It's conjecture on far more solid foundations than the 'birther' stupidity indulged in by many Trump worshippers. Trump was President while Mueller oversaw that particular whitewash; the fingerprints of his interference and manipulation were all over it. Given many of the very tenuous conspiracies championed by Trump's own supporters, the circumstancial evidence against Trump regarding Russia would constitute outright proof for anyone that Trump was pointing the finger at. You mention the irregularity of Clinton's private email server, who Trump beat to become President, while serving in one of the major office's of state as a bit of whataboutism an ex-President who stole classified and top secret official US documents and attempted to flush them down the toilet when the FBI pursued it. That's funny. Trump failed to uphold standards representing a far far lower bar.
  49. 1 point
    At least he's one of her countrymen... But seriously, whether you agree with the monarchy or not, she was the head of the country and had been for 70 years. She has sacrificed her entire life for service to the country (yes whilst being handsomely rewarded for it) the least people could do is not **** and moan about a football match being postponed, it comes across as selfish and entitled.
  50. 1 point
    What a truly terrible disease it is. I've done some charity work for MND, hoping to do some more in the future
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