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Are you not seeing progression here? 17/18 Obviously a Farkenstein's monster of a squad with players from 2 significantly different regimes. The football is a mixed bag but for the most part it doesn't really click and we draw loads of games. We finish 14th and then go and sell our 2 best players, obviously only going 1 way next year, right. 18/19 Everything clicks. We make smart signings, our youngsters are world beaters, we're scoring last minute winners every week and everyhting is amazing. In reality this squad was just a continuation of last year's work. There wasn't any real expectation that it would be in the top 6 let alone winning the league. 19/20 Concious decision is made to not spend on the field but to secure the finances, tie players down long term, pay off the new training ground and hope that momentum carries us through (momentum worked pretty well for us under Lambert). Instead of that happening everything goes wrong, injuries and then just as things are looking like they could improve a global pandemic. 20/21 Unlike 18/19 this season a squad is put together with intent on finishing in the top 2. What did we learn last season? We need to be more physical. A majority of our signings this summer are bigger, faster or stronger than those that are phased out or leave and we play a more defensively secure system. Obviously we then walk the league. 21/22 Only time will tell. Obviously the big talking point at the moment is Emi Buendia. In my opinion Buendia's sale has allowed us to make more dramatic improvements through the squad than we would have been able to if we had kept him. Would Buendia and smaller improvements to the squad have us in a better place now? Maybe as there would be less need for the team to adapt. I'm not sure he'd have us beating a lot of the teams we've played thus far mind - see 19/20. It's obviously not smooth sailing all of the time but it looks to me as if we're trending upwards. For the most part each unit of the squad is improving year on year. Facilities are constantly improving (at the cost of signing us a few world beaters I'm sure) and the youth pipeline is looking impressive. Until a billionaire comes knocking I think this probably is our best shot at being massive.

No idea what a 'clapper' is beyond someone who supports their team but either way you're absolutely tragic. What you actually said on 31st August was: You said it was the best transfer window you can remember. Let's not pretend you had some insight beyond everyone else because we all know that's false and proven above.

I'd like to highlight an excellent post by @Parma Ham's gone mouldy in the thread on Farke's use of substitutes. In particular, the following stands out (remember we're talking last season in preparation for this season): Now it seems that I'm the only person making the distinction between the attacking 4-2-3-1 system we played in 19/20 and the more balanced version of the same system in 20/21. There seems to be an accepted wisdom that we get torn apart at this level when we play that way and that none of our midfielders can play the role that Skipp did last year. We sold Buendia, we couldn't get Skipp back, so Farke attempted to adapt his system to suit the players we did have. The 4-3-3, built around the prodigious Gilmour in the middle of the park. Flanked by two athletic midfielders who would do the dirty-work, Gilmour would be the creative fulcrum. We didn't need a number 10 any more because the two attacking midfielders would use their pace to get forward with Pukki. One of the midfield 3 would always be able to get forward and assist in attack so we wouldn't lack numbers and the extra midfielder would make it more defensively secure anyway. The fullbacks could give us width so it wouldn't be too narrow... The 4-3-3 worked perfectly. Against Bournemouth's second string. 6-0 with the attacking talents of Tzolis and Sargent showing their potential. You could really see how the system was supposed to work. Unfortunately we weren't up against Bournemouth in the Premier League. The midfield in that 4-3-3 were defensively frail yet also lacking a cutting edge in attack - the worst of both worlds. I don't think you can lay the blame solely on the system - although it's easy to see the holes. A significant part of the problem was the enormous turnover of players in those crucial positions. Of our previously solid midfield of Skipp, McLean, Cantwell, Dowell and Buendia, only Cantwell would feature in our opening two league games. That seems like a massive amount of disruption to the continuity of a team which was on a roll. What about the steady, long-term evolution that Parma was talking about? What about the solid, defensive core? Farke stuck with it. Narrow defeats to Leicester and Arsenal followed. It was almost working but, for some reason, the fullbacks were being exposed, especially down the left. The extra man in midfield wasn't compensating for the lack of tracking in the wide areas. Rashica simply didn't have an understanding of the defensive work required. Cantwell was now on the right and struggling to influence the games. So Tzolis and Dowell were given the chance but with little difference in the outcome. Then disaster. Watford at home. Probably the easiest game of the season on paper. Kabak's in at centre back. Normann makes his first start. Sargent and Rashica get the nod in attacking midfield. It's a shambles. Rashica fails to stop a cross from deep. Kabak loses the only man in there and bang, it's 0-1. Norwich respond with Normann feeding Pukki. Finally the season is up and running. Well tear them apart in the second half... Sadly not. Normann doesn't have the stamina and completely switches off. His man runs free, cuts it back and it's a tap in. Finally we see the 4-2-3-1 for the last 20 minutes. But it all unravels with a mistake from McLean leading to a 3rd goal. The team fall apart and Watford could have had more. Farke concedes by going ultra defensive. 5 at the back. Still 3 in midfield. That means sacrificing another attacking player - from four under the 4-2-3-1, three in the 4-3-3 it's now two in the 5-3-2. It might have worked against Everton had Kabak not swung a leg in the box. He's certainly not covered himself in glory in those first two appearances. But Burnley and Brighton are largely kept at bay. The rot is stopped. But Farkeball has all but gone from the team. Balls are routinely cleared long for the front two to chase. There are glimpses of fluid passing, some nice through-balls and a few great chances, but they mostly come from defensive mistakes rather than attacking play. So, here we are. We have four attacking midfielders - Cantwell, Dowell, Rashica and Tzolis - competing for zero places in the starting line-up. Two of the three biggest signings in the club's history on the bench and arguably their most valuable remaining player not even in the squad. Gilmour, who probably provided the catalyst for the switch to the broken 4-3-3 in the first place, can't get near the pitch. There's no room for creativity in this latest Farke team. It's looking more and more like the summer recruitment holds the bulk of the blame. Buendia was the talismanic figure who people said it would be hard to replace, but Skipp was the vital cog who held it all together. Maybe Normann and Lees-Melou will develop into the solid core we have been missing - the signs are good. But we're nearly a quarter of the way through the season with just two points on the board. The questions remain: how does this evolve to become a system which will win games? what place is there for the attacking talent which has been so unashamedly cast aside? I don't think we'll see a sudden deviation from this defensive setup. But I think it might be a panful remainder of the season. I was happy with the money received from selling Buendia, but I can honestly say that I think it's been wasted. We've signed a whole new team when we should have concentrated in a few key areas. I still think the 4-2-3-1 could work and should be tried, after the Chelsea game. And it should be a disciplined, defence-first version of the system. I doubt we'll see it though. Farke will likely flirt with the 4-3-3 again. But, as challenging as it is to fit a number 10 in, without one, we look pretty unable to create much.

It’s not as good as last seasons, looks lightweight and I doubt you will score more than half a dozen times in it. I hope I’m wrong.

Lol “No risk of Polexit” from EU, says Polish PM amid Brussels row You miss the part of the story around what the citizens of Poland think. They consider their version of Farage a complete nutter. The support in Poland for remaining in the EU is massive. Of course you will tell me the Poles want a vote on wether to stay or leave but their reason is different to ours they want to stay. Asked how they would vote if such a referendum were held now, 64.4% of respondents said they would be in favour of Poland remaining in the EU while only 14.8% would choose to leave. A further 6.7% said they would not take part and 14.1% did not know how they would vote. I note in Australia or New Zealand you describe a demonstration of 1000 people against lock down as massive, yet when hundreds of thousands of Polish citizens demonstrate against a few in government you don’t even mention it. The will of the people I guess but only when it suits your side of an argument.

Good post Petriix, enjoyed that. It really shows how much things can change and how quickly they can change too. I feel like there is a feeling of 'this will never end' whenever the club gets stuck in some kind of rut, I guess its down to some kind of short-term recency bias; when we are losing it feels like we will never stop losing, when we are playing a very defensive minded formation it feels like we're never going to branch out, when certain players aren't playing it feels like they're never going to get a chance. The same thing happens when we are doing well too (usually in the league below admittedly). You see it with Arsenal and United all the time, lose 3 games at the start of the season and the world is going to end, win 3 games in a row and all of the sudden Arsenal are back baby champions league winners 22/23 but then draw to Palace which will probably be the start of a swing back the other way. I think we can all be guilty for doing it and getting caught up in the emotions of what we have just seen, but it simply isn't the right way to look at things, there has to be a middle ground, or an overall picture. Your OP already illustrates just how much has come and gone this season. There is still so much time for us to see more of Tzolis and Rashica, for Cantwell to get a run of games, for us to experiment with 4 at the back again which I expect we will see within the next 3-4 games, for us to find a new attacking mojo following the overhaul in midfield, and for us prove the Buendia money was not 'wasted' as you fear. It's still early days! I said it at the time and I've seen nothing since to tell me otherwise; the Watford game was the 'teething' game, we threw in our two new and probably most important signings when they arguably weren't ready and the result was disastrous. However, that has allowed us to map steady progress since with incremental increases in performance levels from that game, the Everton game, the Burnley game through to Brighton. This is not the end of Farkeball, this change in style IMO was a necessary evil in terms of stopping the rot and picking the team up from rock bottom, trying to acclimatise our new players in a less chaotic environment and finding a new equilibrium in playstyle. I described it before as trying to turn around a large ship on a collision course, I feel like we are starting to veer away from disaster but we've still clearly got a lot more turning to do. Whether we will continue to improve enough to stay up, I find hard to believe right now, but we're clearly still a work in progress and it would not at all be a miracle if we did, IMO. I expect we will remain fairly competitive for the rest of the season, improve on our goal scoring and points total in 2019/20 and certainly avoid breaking any damning records come the end of the season, but maybe fall short of safety with an 18th place finish. I'd be keen to read another 'evolution' post in 8 games time, I'm sure we could be having an entirely different conversation then.

You own that site don't you?

Farke has clearly told him what he needs to do. Impress in training. Todd has done this many times before and I've no doubt he can do it again.

We will finish on minus 27 after being found guilty and docked points for failing to comply with the basic rules of the Premier League. The specific charges being that we have ostentatiously refused to rack up unsustainable debts, that we have persistently obeyed FFP regulations, and most heinous of all that our owners would actually pass the fit and proper person test.

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Yes, we also have casual Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays & Thursdays. I still buy cakes on my birthday and send a memo to the rest of my team to tell them they are in my kitchen.

While I agree with what you’re saying, this means we have to accept measures like lockdowns ultimately just delay infections until later on, they are not a solution to the problem. So we need to deploy them only when there is a specific short term reason such as when vaccines were being rolled out. That’s not the case now. you need an exit strategy, we can’t continue permanently restricting peoples’ everyday lives, willingness to accept restrictions is clearly waning especially among 20-somethings who have least to fear from Covid. At the moment, the key number continues to be hospitalisations, which are currently at a sustainable level. Reimposing restrictions would only be justified if hospitalisations are getting out of control, and there is no sign of that as yet. So although it’s an uncomfortable idea, it’s looking like we’re now at a point where Covid cases could be too low as well as too high, otherwise we might face high numbers later at a time when the NHS has less capacity to cope. I’m open to other ideas but I’ve not heard any, except China seems to be going for a permanent policy of harsh restrictions and lockdowns, which let’s face it probably suits the Chinese state. I think this is more than anything because it would be embarrassing for them to concede their zero-Covid approach is obviously impossible, which has been clear for quite some time.

Certainly Webber's infinite game looks as though it's going in the right direction. On paper we probably have a better team and certainly a miles better squad than two years ago. We should end up being much more competitive this season than last time. But, but... In the short term, things like luck and confidence play such a huge part. The lack of pre season plus the awful start plus the length of time it took to get our transfer targets in mean that we're still just getting started. And it's easy for things to spiral out of control. I want this team to stay up so much. I really hope the model can be vindicated and be shown to work in the Prem. Even a gutsy 18th or 19th would suggest we're going in the right direction. But ye gods we need a win soon.

Let's put it this way. When Farke took over just over four years ago, our scapegoats were Wildschut and James Husband. Now it's a player with close to 200 matches in the Bundesliga and some European experience in Lukas Rupp, or a proven Scotland international midfielder in Kenny McLean. At the same time we've brought some excellent youngsters through (Maddison, Godfrey, Lewis being sold, Cantwell, Aarons very much worth a pretty penny, Omobamidele and Idah looking like possible breakthrough players). On top of that, we've radically overhauled the training facilities and cleared up a ton of old debt. And we've done all that whilst having a mother-funster of a pandemic affecting things. Definitely trending upwards, but it does depend on three things: 1. A consistent stream of talented youngsters coming through 2. Enough of them become the likes of Godfrey, Maddison etc. to sell when their value appears high, and 3. When some older, more experienced heads come in, they perform at the necessary higher level to secure top-flight status. We're just struggling with #3 a bit, but the last two performances had a glimmer, no more, that they are getting the picture.

Don't judge a Formula One car while it's in the pits having a tyre change. Farke is stabilising us and will look at reducing down to 2 CB's I'm sure. There's no way he would walk away from the wide players that he clearly adores. This is the quickest way of finding out which defenders and midfielders offer the most protection for our creative players to build from.

I had a letter from NHS today re third Primary dose of Covid vaccine for those with severe Immunosuppresion. (ie me). The letter says this is " the third of a primary vaccination schedule of three doses and is different to the booster vaccination roll out to the wider population" Apparently I can just go straight to a walk in centre without a prior appointment. I shall head off first thing tomorrow👍

3 hours in and I’m surprised that nobody’s given the obvious answer- ‘Down to the lake I fear’ 🎤🤣

I share your twitchiness VW. I can see lots of people who come up with all sorts of reasons why in some manner it's 'gone away' or we can or should ignore it i.e. 'Herd Immunity ' as per BB (that idea as a solution died last summer) or that it is in some undefined manner already 'endemic' by which I think they mean steady state. The summer pause was likely simply a Iull before the storm. Simply for me its just a numbers game. We've all had flu (or very bad colds) at some point - sometimes more than once. Once we've all had Covid once or twice then we will be at 'steady state'. Not until. Until that point it's really now just a question of managing the numbers - if you let, as we currently are on course for, millions to become infected then expect thousands of hospitalizations. As ever the current hospitalizations let alone deaths relate to infections caught likely 2 or 3 weeks ago - when the confirmed PCR tests were a lot lot less. Higher hospitalizations and deaths 2 or 3 weeks from now are already 'in the can' as far as Covid is concerned. We all hope for Covid to be self-limiting and the vaccine to take the edge off. But surely from a public health perspective we can't rely on our wishes or plain luck or boosterism to see us through.

Chase was so professional in the way he ran the club it got far closer to administration than ever it has under the supposed amateurs Smith and Jones.

I am inclined to agree. I have thought for a fair while now that the assumption that high infection rate =bad might be a thing of the past. Neither past exposure or vaccination appears to give 100% (sterilising) protection from infection and won't stop you getting exposed to the pathogen. What we do know is that that best protection and nearest we get to the gold standard comes from double vaccination and exposure So when you are exposed, as you probably will be given the R0 of delta is astronomical, would you rather that was when you still had antibodies in circulation in your blood or when only your baseline memory still existed? Would you rather be exposed go a virus against which the vaccine still has very good efficacy or an indeterminate variant? And that's before the NHS seasons come into play

Get back on the phone to Villa and beg them to give us a decent offer in January in the short term he needs to do to a decent barber

Possibly some truth in those statements @Son Ova Gunn but maybe there is another category - who is a realist? Most on here wouldn't want a dodgy ownership but want to belong to a real community club with the kind of values associated with it yet also realise it's more complicated and difficult to attain a seat at the top table with such a set up. You either support the attempt at doing so (not necessarily whole heartedly but at least you 'support') or become embittered. Ultimately it all boils down to results as to our short term views. But there are many other pleasures in supporting a club like ours over a lifetime. Taking a much longer term view there has been so much value in being a Norwich City supporter these last 50 years. Maybe even a top ten ride of all clubs that are in the top two divisions? We've had a lot to feel grateful for. As ever, it's about perspective I think.

I think this is a fair post. I only get annoyed when people claim that they know more than the rest of us or there is an easy solution to the problem. *Also because it was a Tuesday morning and I didn't want to go work I agree about that being a possible strategy with the likes of Buendia, but I'm not sure it would have been the right one. I think it would have left lots of gaps in our squad that we would have come to regret. I actually do believe the wealth of our owners holds us back. I think anyone denying that is absolutely barking up the wrong tree. However, I tend to think they get a lot of other things right, far from perfect, but we wouldn't be where we are if they were running the club badly. They have their flaws, they have their qualities but I'm not going to pretend that I see more examples of better owners than I see examples of worse. Until someone comes along with a concrete example of a better owner (or potential owner) who we have turned down, then I just don't see any point being disappointed by it all. In that case top 26 is probably a fair expectation, but I want it to be top 17 and hope to god we can find a way to be that.

They are upset because according to the deal that Johnson signed they are allowed to, but like the NI Protocol what Johnson promises or signs up to and what Johnson actually does are two completely different things. I think you'll find that it isn't just the French but most of Europe, and in fact the rest of the world are pretty unimpressed that agreements signed by the Prime Minister of the UK aren't worth the paper they're written on - especially when we now know that Johnson never intended to honour them even at the point of signing.

I don't think it's the fan base that's changed - it's the whole set up of football. The advent of the Premier League has completely changed the financial relationship between the top two divisions.

Its beginning to look as if immunity from infection isnt as good as that from vaccine, and as we know we need to keep boosting the vaccine to maintain relatively good immunity, I fear the concept of herd immunity isnt really going hit the spot with this virus re waning vaccine and post infection immunity and a very infectious virus. I was very much against the July opening up, but gave the philosophy of getting the post opening rise in infections during the summer the benefit of the doubt, the recent figures sadly suggest that we may have got it wrong.

It's a question of how often and how repetitive people's posts are. If you complain too often and loudly and fail to take on board anything people say about a bigger picture, then you will just be seen as a noise maker with nothing to say other than being negative. It works the other way too, like if I make too many positive posts, without seeming to take on board the way people of other views take, it upsets those people and I get a negative reaction. The answer is to try and be level headed and try and see both sides of the argument, show that you understand that there is another way of looking at the situation and then you might not get such a reaction to your posts, but if you just want to see bleakness and doom and gloom, you will get a reaction, just the same as I do when I go too far the other way. I understand that people feel negative and even despondent when they see us struggling, but for some reason, when I see us doing badly, I see it as an opportunity for us to do better. Our squad has some excellent players and potential in the terms of the young players we have, so I would prefer - always - to look forwards to the next game to see how we develop, see how we can improve. Its a process, not a cut and dried situation where things will always be bad, so ultimately, it is - imo - up to all of us to try and see beyond our emotions of what happens when things go badly and see the possibilities for improvement. It's not all doom and gloom, but that is what you and some others seem to want to foist on all of us. Show that you understand there is another way of looking at it and you might get a bit more understanding for your own point of view. We get it. we're in a difficult place when we are struggling so much...........but really, the struggle is what it is all about!

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Only 3% of corners result in goals. Not quite the potential goal mine some would make out

All people who want to watch football on Amazon Prime should switch off now. This message is only for people who want to watch live football at the grounds. NCFC face 2 winter midweek matches to be shown on live TV at what are probably the 2 least popular grounds in the Premier League both in terms of location and fan facilities. OK at least Selhurst Park is in London but still an unpopular location. Presumably the Club would like to encourage as many of its supporters as possible to attend and support the team? Therefore why not a buy one get one free offer? Not sure if both these games would be attractive enough for the offer, perhaps the second match should be a different game altogether? Any thoughts?

Wilberforce certainly had an important role to play in the abolition of slavery but it is pure nonsense to claim that slavery would have continued for another century without his input. Prior to his involvement there was already a very important and flourishing abolitionist movement begun by the Quakers' establishment of anti-slavery committees (evidenced by their presentation of a petiton to parliament in 1783). The Rev. James Ramsey had already spent several years writing a book calling for abolition before meeting Wilberforce in 1783. Wilberforce's first activity in support of abolition didn't occur until circa 1786-7. Frankly, comparing Wilberforce to Ghandi is patently absurd.

I don't need this pressure on

I'm mildly perturbed by the misaligned cushion on the chair.

Says more about Uncle Freddo than it does about Todd.

Go grab yourself a medal from the medal draw.

I'm not a massive fan of threads like this admittedly, but perhaps wait 38 games until we talk about "points total".

But those cornflakes aren't as big and strong as all the other teams cornflakes .

I thought your black dog was about to chew your hat. So maybe new slippers are in order. But I can't speak, I use a 15 year old pair of very battered sketchers as my slippers ....don't think even a dog would chew them.

It is his therapy, might need to try something else other than repeating negative mantras if he wants a positive outcome though. Just sayin🧘‍♂️🕉 Ommmmm

I have been to nearly all the home matches this season and am fed up with all the 'Farke out' comments etc ..... on Saturday it was obvious that improvements have been made by the coaching staff ..... the defence was solid, the midfield played with more cohesion and (apart from some poor finishing) the strikers linked well with that midfield ..... Pukki and Sargent worked their behinds off and with a bit more confidence when it comes to finishing I feel sure goals will come ..... Sargent has received a lot of stick from some keyboard warriors but his performance yesterday was sound ..... he was tireless in his pressing and got into some great positions, I know he missed a sitter but, as I said, with more confidence goals will come ...... the much criticised (by the same keyboard warriors) Grant Hanley also impressed, as did his defensive colleagues ...... Brighton are in the top 4 and in excellent form and it was NCFC who made them look ordinary ...... the team is starting to gel which is why Farke probably played an unchanged side ..... it's all very well saying stuff like 'Gilmour should be in'. 'where's Cantwell?' and 'we miss Buendia' but the situation is as it is ..... the team over the past 2 matches has played well and kept clean sheets ..... also, Buendia has been rubbish for Villa all season according to my mate who is a Villa fan, so the grass isn't always greener ...... City have some good players, they have a good manager and a board that is keeping the club out of the financial mire ..... NCFC may be bottom of the league but that league is the Premier League, not the Championship or League 1 ...... in this age of financial clout being so important in football and of people wanting everything now instead of waiting for things to develop NCFC could have given in and spent multi-squillion pounds on the squad and still ended up bottom of the league ..... be grateful for what you have, a team that is in the Premier League and fighting hard to stay there ..... the last time City went up it was all about Sheff Utd and how great they were ..... this time it's all about Brentford ..... look where Sheff Utd are today, 15th in the Championship ...... who's to say that Brentford won't be in the same position in a couple of years with NCFC back (or still) in the Premier League ..... as the late, great Jimmy Greaves once said ''it's a funny old game is football'' ...... I may be viewed by some as a 'Happy Clapper' but I say keep the faith ..... OTBC

Oh come on - of course we would have known! Some mega rich millionaire/billionaire who really wants to buy the club approaches Delia and Michael. Delia and Michael knock them back. What to do you think happens next? A. Millionaire/billionaire disappears without a sound. B. Millionaire/billionaire lets every media outlet and Norwich City fan group they have made an offer for the club and been rebuffed.

The attitude has changed because football has changed!! (When the facts change opinions change).

I've had the same thought many times but feel uncomfortable about it nevertheless. The Delta Plus variant I've read is widespread in the UK (I'm sure I read 2/3 of new cases) so I've wondered if we are an outlier for that reason? Then again we are testing more. I'm unsure too about lasting immunity through vaccines (of which the 'waning' effect has been much reported in recent weeks as scientists and modellers try to explain our increasing rates). So, I'm very much looking forward to my booster! All in all it therefore doesn't feel we are back to normal in any realistic form. I don't know. One thing that has angered me however is the seeming disinterest by our government (not using this as a stick honestly). I watched the debate on poor David Amess yesterday and one side had no masks at all and the opposite bench everyone was wearing masks! WTF you might think. Just what message does that give us ....it's become politicised! And it's a pandemic. Why can't there be a simple request to wear masks or social distancing to continue (because for sure there is no need for lockdowns again). Why can't we all take simple precautions at least and the public messaging is reinforced daily to do so? I agree with @Essjayess on this matter. I fear we are taking our eyes off the ball to use a football analogy and you'd have thought with Covid it's the last thing we should be doing. Just allowing some herd immunity unfettered feels very risky in my simple world.

Source was a discussion programme on Radio 5. I think it was the lead football reporter with The Times but Chris Sutton was also involved. I think you've hit the nail on the head in that everyone is now doing it which really is the proof that it works. These people lose their jobs if they get simple stuff wrong. I recently heard Alan Smith critisize a team for using a small player to "mark" a big player at a corner. He just doesn't understand how the zonal and blocking system works which is shameful bearing in mind that's what he's paid for.

That's exactly what DCB does!😀

The first note of the Champ is all it takes and you know it.

There are no rules, you state your opinion and either get agreement or opposition. Thing is , you can whinge and gripe as much as you wish, no one in any position to make any changes wil listen. So Pi$$ away, the wind will last longer than your weak bladder. How frustrated you must be 😂😂😂😂😂😂

It takes time to bed in some new players. Emi didn’t feature immediately, took about 6 games for his first start. Also that was in the championship. We’re now trying to introduce a young, raw attacking midfielder into a PL team that has been haemorrhaging goals. Sort defence first, then bring in the creativity at the other end. I don’t think there’s anything to panic about with Tzolis.

He did leap 15ft into the air!

STOP In the name of love, before you break my heart. Is it over?