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I think Starmer is doing the right thing by not party-politicizing this. As to BoJo, he has always been a hollow man who conned the gullible into thinking he was clever because he knew a few over-used Latin tags. And whether by luck or judgment Labour have chosen the perfect opponent in Starmer, whose dullness looks increasingly like a virtue compared to Johnson’s flippancy, and whose forensic skills will quietly eviscerate Johnson in Parliament. Cummings has a keen mind, and is certainly sharper than Johnson, but that hasn’t stopped him being a fool over Durhamgate. There may be more to come out, but even on the basis of what is known to be true he has been very stupid. Probably through arrogance, and particularly thinking he would be too smart to get caught out by mere hacks in the media. Hence he and his wife writing pieces for The Spectator that were lies by omission. You would have to be very dumb to assume the truth would not come out.

It was amazing LDC, after our results against them in the previous games and then to wipe them out in the first half, it was beautiful. One of those days where we were destined to win, made up for the misery of Cardiff.

This forum is very quickly becoming a joke. It really is getting worse every day. Football cannot return quick enough. At least then we will (hopefully) have intermittent posts that actually belong on a football forum...

Kim.

Er.............do we not have a 'NON-FOOTBALL' forum on here ............or do you think that this is football-related ?

If they were played at the Aviva ,Dublin, that'd be Eire.

This whole sorry episode of playing behind closed doors is possibly even more tragic when it comes to the FA Cup.

Word of the week: Exit Andy Shaw 29 MAY 2020 SHARE TWITTER FACEBOOK LINKEDIN EMAIL Definition: A way out (from confinement, usually of prisoners restricted to their cells) Derivation: On behalf of the government, Dominic Cummings drove to Barnard castle to test procedures for exiting the lockdown. Like Dr. Jonas Salk – who discovered a potential vaccine for polio by testing it on himself and his entire family – Classic Dom took a test drive on behalf of us all. He discovered that it is safe to go outside, that cars still work and, shockingly, that it is still possible to use your own judgement. Following the Barnard Castle experiment, the government is hoping to ease restrictions, to exit the lockdown. However, the government has scared much of the population and many are anxious about returning to normal life. Some have demanded that the government issues detailed instructions on how to perform everyday tasks. A sizeable minority secretly love the lockdown and want us to stay in it forever. Curtain twitchers Residents who keep an eye on local ‘comings and goings’, or relish in gossip, used to be viewed as petty-minded. Since lockdown, ‘curtain twitchers’ have been thrust into the frontline of community policing – they have become ‘key watchers’. Acting as the eyes and ears of police and council officials, they have played a valuable role, by informing on neighbours who receive visitors, by sniffing out the source of barbeque smoke and by denouncing mothers who leave their children with friends, on their way to work. Weekly registers have been maintained, noting the attendance of each neighbour at the Thursday NHS clapping sessions and the level of enthusiasm displayed has been carefully noted. It is rumoured that ‘key watchers’ have offered their services for ongoing community monitoring. Goths Goths don’t like mixing with people, they live indoors, have a gloomy outlook and harbour a brooding sense of the coming apocalypse. They have been pleasantly surprised that the world has recently adopted their way of life. Although Goths have maintained their miserable demeanour, they are secretly delighted at our current circumstances and have covertly enjoyed being back in fashion. TV Journalists TV journalists used to complain that viewing figures were in decline and that people get more of their news from social media. However, millions are now watching the Daily Briefing and journalists have something to talk about. TV journalism has regained a sense of mission and purpose. Journalists feel a deep sense of camaraderie and they have started to operate in gangs, focusing on one issue at a time, in unison – PPE, ventilators, daily death figures. Journalists are working so closely together that they have developed a collective, singular outlook. The revelation that Dominic Cummings drove his car has enabled TV journalists to morph into a unified and highly motivated pack. Those who flout the rules should live in fear not only of the police but of the media mob. Anxious parents All parents worry about their children, but some parents have made a profession out of it. They worry about feeding the right food to their kids, about the changing climate, about kids walking to school and playing out on their own. Some parents worry so much, they fear that their kids will be damaged by their own anxious parenting, so they mix with other parents who confirm their anxieties on WhatsApp and MumsNet. The Covid-19 outbreak finally gave them something real to worry about and they feel vindicated. Anxious parents are now setting up petitions to demand that schools stay closed and children stay cocooned in the safety of their anxiety bubble. Use: “You can exit lockdown now. Oh dear, I think you’ve developed Stockholm Syndrome.”

Agreed - the starkness of the red and white and the yellow and green in the stadium looked fantastic - and it was an amazing thing to see us dominate a match so much at Wembley - the three league cup finals and the play off final in Cardiff were brilliant occasions and even though we won the cup in 85, they were not great footballing wise. In 2015 we owned it.

I think you need to go and sit in a garden or other green space and have a quiet word with yourself. My Mother was living in a very good Care Home - rated as outstanding, and they have lost 20 of their 60 residents since the beginning of April, including my Mother, most of them with other causes of death than the virus on their death certificates, because the Tory governments of the last 4 years have ignored warnings,and failed to act on the results of pandemic exercises, and because we were so late in even beginning to test anyone, and criminally late in beginning testing in Care Homes and allowed mass gatherings like Cheltenham and didn't test anyone entering this country and didn't make people entering this country quarantine themselves and didn't renew our stockpile of PPE... I could go on. We are an island nation for goodness sake and have one of the highest death rates in the world. We should be comparing ourselves favourably with Australia, New Zealand and South Korea (in effect an island). I think that "Right-thinking people" have every right to vent their fury, in the face of such abject failure. This is not about election results or Brexit, it's about consecutive governments failing to govern.

Nope, and neither can any of your other 7 log-ins Love Bill x

FA Cup final scheduled for August 1st? So when does next season start then? Week after? The Players are held on short term contracts ? What about the transfer windows across Europe ? I've lost the plot here. This is bonkers.

What a way to thank them for voting for Brexit 😳

This has even got me and the missus arguing she thinks he should be hung drawn and quartered I told her he was an outstanding human worthy of a knighthood and I was on his side , her reply " dont you dare Cummins side me" .😉😇😷👍

.........yes, of course it is - plus the 100+ Tory MPs who've said DC should be sacked, the Tory minister who has resigned and the many, many thousands of Tory voters who've written to their MP to express their disgust. Oh, and I forgot that well known left wing rag - the Daily Mail, they're at it as well. 😂🤣😂 But apart from them it's just........

This is not ideal but so much better than pretending the season shouldn’t finish without relegations or promotions.

Barely human , less than human Now your nit picking If I've done something terrible, I am sure I will get a ban Maybe you should though, as calling someone barely human has got to be close to hate speech. Dehumanising people is what happened in the 30's

I notice no-one commented about the potential reasons that the Cummings scandal was carrying on (because it creates a massive distraction for other things to happen in this pandemic). And, because of social distancing, WR Mogg is now restricting parliament to 50 MPs only and even the digital scrutiny is to be removed. Effectively, business will be decided by 50 out of 650 MPs. This harks back to the 1930s in Germany. Do folk have a view on this? I realise the pandemic is forcing changes but could parliament not meet elsewhere and we protect democratic processes? This issue seems to me of massive significance.

Another feature of our current Government is the "Priti Patel" apology, as in "I'm sorry that you feel that an apology is needed." Also in my use of the English language "Barely human" does not mean "less than human". Why haven't you been banned yet?

Yes these are confirmed cases. Confirmation rate now under 2 percent of those tested. It was 20 percent a month ago.

Just another way we’ll be unfairly and sadly disadvantaged by being a self-funded, well-run, cost-saving and non-billionaire-owned club.

"She is never coming back" who ?

This. All the deaths are a tragedy but so is businesses going to the wall and people losing their jobs. We have to get back to some form of normality at some stage. The players have to put everything out of their minds and battle for their footballing lives. No excuses, 11 v 11, just go for it. This really isn't the season to be relegated.

So here is just about where we are, a summing up of promising vaccines and drugs https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/science-vs-covid-19-vaccine-trial-wins-and-other-hopeful-findings

I'm looking forward to some kind of football. Far better than all this stuff about PPG discussions on here. Can't wait to be discussing a Pukki or even better, a Buendia goal.

Hi Nutty, First of all huge thanks to everyone for all the excellent selections. I certainly feel like I’ve travelled far and wide looking at these and been to some leagues and places that I didn’t even know existed! Nutty, for my pick I am going for 25 New York City v New York Red Bulls. After some careful thought 😉 these are the ones that I’d like to pick: 3 - IFK Gothenburg v Norrkoping 7 - Varbergs v Djurgaarden 18 - Chicago Fire v New England 22- LA Galaxy v Minnesota Utd 25 - New York City v New York Red Bulls 26 - Orlando Fire v Portland T 31- FC Voluntari v Chindia Targoviste 32 - Dinamo Bucharest v FC Viitorul 33 - Hermannstadt v CSM Iasi 35 - Brage v Degerfors 44 - Chapecoense AF v Guarani Thanks to everyone for their suggestions, good luck everyone 🤞👍

Wouldn't be so sure about that - if you think that is 'football' then fair enough, fill your your boots. Not sure yet what I'll be doing on the 17th but I am certain that it won't include spending a couple of hours watching that charade, or any of the other sh!tshows that are going to follow in rapid succession.

I think Rishi effectively saying “no” when asked if the furlough system will come back if there is a “second wave” as good as rules out any major return to full lockdown. There’s no way the government will enforce full lockdown and not have the furlough lifeline. Unless there is an absolutely massive spike, I think lockdown is only going to go and stay one way now.

I think we’re going to get to a point - and it might come sooner than I expected (and probably sooner than it should) - where ‘mostly younger generation’ do go about their lives as normally as possible, but the ‘elder generation’ and those who are at high risk continue to shield. The risk to the ‘younger generation’ is minuscule - none of them want their parents or grandparents to die of course, but shielding those at risk and everyone else trying to get to “the new normal” makes most sense for everyone.

Last years picture but definitely this years fund raising amount, thanks again to all of you who have supported us

Not while we are getting under your, and your ilks, skin

But unavoidable if the vulnerable are to be kept alive No one wants this, but apart from a few loonies on here nobody else wants UK football to collapse, as the inability for payments to be made to non PL clubs would cause that And as far as I am concerned we have nothing to lose, we were not expected to win the original game so let's just enjoy it and know that we still have a chan

ask yorkshire_canary 😏

I'm a liberal, can i stay around?

The playoff final is the least corporate of the big games held at Wembley... maybe the league cup , but that stadium , half green and yellow, half red and white , was something to behold. My experience that day was of course influenced by the fact we totally outplayed boro and never looked in danger of losing.

Whilst I'm a generally a 'glass half full' type of supporter, before the lockdown I couldn't see any chance of us getting a win against Man utd in the cup. They have thoroughly beaten us twice this season and in my opinion probably one of the most difficult opponents for us at this point. I did wonder if the no fans scenario may help us however, I can't see it. Now be typical of Norwich City to win this and eventually get to another FA cup semi final in decades, and I miss it. Still, I'd rather win it with no supporters present, than not.

I thought the centenary match v Ajax in 2002 was your centenary too. Me and my Dutch Ajax diehard fanmate were singing ' on yer bike Ricardo(o ooooo), never mind the strangers, cycle on, nows your chance, waahey , you've crossed the road!!' Silly us.

And mine👍🎂😁 Although I'm not as old as the club😉

It's; Now you're nit picking..............

Unaccountably. But serendipitously. I started something.🤓

Thanks, Good news on three fronts in there. What caught my eye is the cross reactivity of (old) SARS antibodies. Possibly evidence/hint that pre exposure to another coronavirus might give protection to this one? Obviously very limited study. I am not sure what to make of the implications for UK epidemiology but surely if antibodies for a different (and ten year old) coronavirus are still effective it does hint that mutation rate is not a huge issue.

There have been rumblings from some Championship clubs that have kept to the rules (or say they have!) that Covid losses/emergency funding might be used by the likes of Derby and Sheffield Wednesday to avoid breaking FFP rules or as an excuse for having done so.

I have applied for a ticket on the grounds that being unsure of my eyesight, the only way to see if I can see is by testing it. They believed me!!!! Someone somewhere must have set a precedent. My next prob is finding one of those 520+mile no fuel up cars with built in toiler and snack bar...... they do exist, apparently.

Schools have also closed around Seoul, but not across the whole country. BBC says on Thursday there were 79 new cases within 24 hours in South Korea.

Starmer on the news tonight was straightforward. He would have sacked his advisor if he was PM (guess easy to say) but his reasoning was that the government had wasted a week and we really needed to be making progress on test, track, trace. As such #CumGate (as it's been referred to on twitter) has been a distraction. The focus, you got the impression, was on the business in hand. He wasn't engaging in a crude form of points scoring. Such a contrast to BJ.

Course you did...

I'm going to disagree... As an exile who wouldn't have been able to attend anyway, just watching a game on TV without fans takes an awful lot away from it as a spectacle.

So what happens if one team is missing 7 players due to coronavirus, and another is missing 0? Also, what happens if a player tests positive after full contact training... does the whole squad have to self-isolate for 14 days? Then after that 14 days they have to play a match after training in their back gardens, against a team that is doing real training at their training ground? Can't fully wrap my head around it really.

I imagine the only thing that could possibly cause a problem would be if the now-allowed contact training saw a large increase in positive tests. I reckon itll start now but less sure itll finish.

Not a pleasant town. Full of angry bald men swearing at complete strangers. 😀