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  1. 4 points
    The body bags are racking up. There is not a cats chance in hell of all leagues completing by 30/6. FFS we haven't even hit the peak yet and probably 2-4 weeks away. You have to overlay events of COVID-19 and the EPL seems to be living in a bubble and stringing clubs along. There is not a sporting event this side of July that hasn't been cancelled. It's bordering on the disrespectful really.
  2. 4 points
    There will come a point when finishing this season actually costs the game more money than cancelling it, as it will impact on next season. Its impossible to finish one season and go straight into the next as drawing up new contracts for many things, organising dates for all next season matches ( which must be a huge job in itself as there are others outside football to consider in that) all have to be done. How long are they prepared to consider going past 30 June in finishing the season? I would suggest that is the common sense cut off point in every respect.
  3. 4 points
    By acknowledging that football can not restart at the beginning of May the idea of finishing by June 30 is now effectively off the table.
  4. 4 points
    I think two separate issues are getting muddled up here. The club has relatively short term contracts with the players. Break the contracts unilaterally and the players could walk. The club also has many direct employees - no different to the shut-down car industry or retail. As a business it has to do what it can to protect the business - given it currently has and for the foreseeable future zero gate receipts etc and even questions over future TV monies. Many clubs as we know are actually or could rapidly be in serious financial trouble. Hopefully he players etc will separately agree to large 50% cuts/deferments else the opprobrium should be theirs
  5. 3 points
    "Weekend World" Cyber Beefheart a la plage Elastic Man 🙂
  6. 3 points
    I love the fact the biggest critics of our immoral approach to furloughing staff seem to coincide with being the same people who'd welcome a multi-billionaire with a dodgy business background, no ethics and a history of using child-slavery to make their fortune.
  7. 3 points
    Forget European football for next season. 85 clubs in this Nation don't take part. Football has to concentrate on its domestic leagues first and only. To mould next season around four clubs wanting CL is obscene and would show that those clubs dominate football to such an extent that they should clear off and form their TV league. Good riddance. And I couldn't care less if they have budgeted for it next season. You cannot spend what you haven't got. Oops, I forgot, they do all the time.
  8. 3 points
    Other reviews from RTB. The Great Escape - A story about a man who failed to jump a fence on a motorcycle. Jungle Book - Too much Jungle not enough Book Little Women - Some of them were quite big Oceans Eleven - At times there were only 4 of them.
  9. 2 points
    Nice ones Herman. Apart from Neil (loved him since Buffalo Springfield days) all new to me & all interesting. Debussy to start. It was on my 2nd classical LP i'd ever bought, & was disappointed because Claire De Lune wasn't on it. Surely Debussy couldn't have written more than an LPs worth of piano music?? Fun Boy Three next. Just love Terry Hall's stage presence. And what the Hell is Myra Hindley doing on drums? Brass bands. I love brass bands. I can see the cloud shadows drifting across the scree ... I don't really know why i like the last track. His voice just appeals to me when other similar ones don't. It rings true somehow. Just realised these are completely different to the ones I was going to post earlier! Watch this space pop pickers ...
  10. 2 points
    Tonight's theme. Oh Canada!!! (Classic, beautiful, upbeat, noisy.)
  11. 2 points
    Yes, everything is going swimmingly in the EU, more toilet rolls than the UK, more testing than the UK, oh and more people infected and sadly dead in Italy and Spain than the UK. I feel sadness for the people of Bergamo. The old city is beautiful and has some excellent restaurants. Well worth taking the fenicular railway up to see it should you ever visit.
  12. 2 points
    I'll be listening to this guy a bit tonight. Now he has passed on its easy to forget some of the great music he provided and isn't Lovely Day one of the greatest pop songs ever?
  13. 2 points
    The OP could write to the club and suggest all non-playing staff should be dismissed. Wouldn't go down well with those staff members' families but at least the OP could carry on supporting his beloved club! Or he may reflect on the differing employment contracts in place. The first responsibility is to those permanent members of staff (cleaners, ticketing office etc) and to ensure they are protected from redundancy. The club has acted, indeed is making up the 80% to 100%. Given, only two seasons ago the club were close to going out of business and the same reason has been given why we have not overspent on transfer fees, means this decision is consistent. The club is trying to protect itself. It is simply one of the first to do so. And speaking of morals, maybe we don't like watching multi millionaires playing football for our club, but that is the ridiculous marketplace we have, whether we like it or not.
  14. 2 points
    Interesting take. I can think of loads of other less than moral stances taken by clubs over many years. I can also think of decisions being made right now by big business during this crisis. Greed? Looking after staff? Being sustainable? Tax revenues issues? Did Sunak state which companies should not be doing this? Wasn't it about all employers? I see British Airways has? Does one not fly on their airline again? I see Argos staff still work where the CEO earning 3.9m a year decides they are essential. It's complex. I suppose though you've had some good decades supporting the club. It's still a shame that this one issue is ending that. I would wait to see myself what players and their union might suggest first. It's not great I realise that. But it's a far broader and more complex as an issue which certainly I have incomplete knowledge about. Try contacting the club ...e.g. Ben K. They are accessible.
  15. 2 points
    Utter, utter rubbish. April fools day has been and gone, so run along
  16. 2 points
    As a curiosity, everyone in Italy is wearing them but hardly anyone in the UK. I wear one here in Italy every time I leave the house: not because I think they actually achieve anything, but simply because I don't want to be the ignorant foreigner not following the local rules.
  17. 2 points
  18. 2 points
    ^ This is boll1cks. See below BBC link - 88% misleading ads from Tories, and 7% from Labour - but don't let facts get in the way of nonsense. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50726500
  19. 1 point
    A very informative and quite positive read. It does point to the relative worthlessness of counting deaths as any indication of anything but..........the number of deaths Too many areas to use as an example of how well things are now being done on a practical level https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/nightingale-emergency-coronavirus-hospital-london maybe when this has quitened down a bit voters might take time to wonder how they sat back and allowed those services to be underfunded for so long, and how it is that the supposed magic money tree, far from not existing, has now appeared as a forest. Yes, you...... the ones who happily trotted out that lie and who saw no wrong in doing so, or voting for the same Tory MP's who cheered when they blocked a pay rise for nurses https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-nhs-nurses-election-2017-bbc-question-time-leaders-special-a7770371.html
  20. 1 point
  21. 1 point
    Excellent stuff HIWEM, H, RO and FW. Will be good to hear your stuff Elastic Man.... Loved Totally Wired when it came out ... recall right now being at my friend's shared house, half the room out of their heads and this on repeated play (along with Horse I think by Iggy Pop....could have got my dates wrong). Beefheart reminds me of Zappa too and another music era. For my 4 tonight: in Herman's one word intro style...smooth, energetic, uplifting, 'english'
  22. 1 point
  23. 1 point
    Could someone tell me when the great soothsayers super market crisis arrives because I’m still waiting. In fact the biggest problem Im facing at the moment is toilet roll blacking the aisles. Probably about the same rime they learn some commonsense logic and reason. Never.
  24. 1 point
    It's all footballers' fault It's only a matter of time before Raheem Sterling gets it in the neck for coronavirus https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/03/raheem-sterling-coronavirus-matt-hancock-premier-league-footballers?
  25. 1 point
    So the announcement is that the PL and EFL are postponed indefinitely and will only resume when it’s Completely safe to do so and within the guidelines of the government and medical advisers. My conclusion from that is that once the calendar gets to a certain point and we still can’t restart, the PL and EFL will use the government’s guidelines as an escape route from this problem and say they can’t get the season completed
  26. 1 point
    If 20 million people can be trained to do a certain job proficiently then that job will not command the wage of one where only a few thousand are proficient. It shouldn't really be a difficult concept to understand.
  27. 1 point
    Do the right thing - This isn’t right on any level. Furloughing the rest of the staff and getting the government to bail them out. I’m embarrassed by the actions of Norwich and the silence on players not taking paying cuts like in Spain and Italy is deafening. Premier League needs to have a hard long look at themselves.
  28. 1 point
    Quite plainly that is not a correct figure. Strange how all those citizen video's showing what was really happening, suddenly disappeared from the Internet. Funny that.
  29. 1 point
    You mean the one that wears a red Ferrari jacket and is in love with Sophia Loren i assume ? 😂
  30. 1 point
    Rickkkyyy was there😀⛹️‍♂️⚽
  31. 1 point
    That has to be the greatest night of my football life Double N. My mate and I had been dropping hints at work that we we like to go to the match, we were only apprentices, and lo and behold, the manager said off you go. We picked up the then Miss KG, and off we went. I remember a lad we went to school with grabbed one of the penalty spots I bet Orient must have thought all their Xmases etc. Not only 15 K of us but loads of Arsenal and Chelsea fans turned up just to see what we were like. Watford was good but this was better. Happy Days.
  32. 1 point
    I was being sarcastic Teemu! As it's the lowest form of wit and I'm not that bright I tend to try humour😐
  33. 1 point
    The OP is bored.........and possibly a Bin Man...............that is all..........
  34. 1 point
    Hello Lakey - I hope you and yours are well. Kinda missing your crazy positivity in these troubling times! As I have learned quite recently, it doesn't work to try and give a balanced opinion about political issues on here. Even a friendly discussion will lead to someone attacking you; discussion is dissent. Let people believe what they will, whichever side of the fence they are on. Stay safe. OTBC
  35. 1 point
    That is definitely true. I'm working from home and my only expense right now is my food shop and maybe the occasional treat like a video game or movie rental to keep myself entertained. No petrol, no drinks out, no coffees, no lunch at work all adds up.
  36. 1 point
    They are still unskilled...but now they are heroes. Who knew events could change the nature of things, or that people could be both...I’d argue most reasonable people know. God this thread is full of boring political grandstanding.
  37. 1 point
    My annoyance with this is the speed at which we went to the taxpayer. At a time when 16 other clubs in the richest league in the world are holding back from pressing the button we went right ahead. Not only that but if webber's statement is to be believed we didn't even ask the players if they will take a temporary hit. And let's say it again...government money that could be spent on ventilators, PPE and any other amount of vital public services is instead being kept in players' and execs pockets. In 1939 we sent young men to die for the greater good and now we cannot look them in the eye and ask for spare change? Perhaps there are things we are not being told. If the more are in would suggest that the club needs to come out and say them.
  38. 1 point
    I think this is probably correct. My understanding is that, if people are put on furlough, you are effectively terminating their contract and then putting them on the furlough scheme so they can benefit from the government scheme. You can only put people on furlough if you were otherwise going to make them redundant. I don’t think there’s any obligation on the employer to take the employee back into employment whenever the furlough scheme ends - which would lead me to believe there’s no obligation on the employee to go back either.
  39. 1 point
    Well its look like the lines are drawn. Those who cannot believe the club or players can do anything wrong seem to be out today. Wake up and see what is happening in the world and believe me there is more to come. You cannot separate players from any other employee at the club. As much as you want to, they are all employed by the club and are bound by the same industrial laws. And because of this silly thought of contractual obligations at a time when no-one born since 1945 have known anything like it, clubs and players are hiding. Players can take a mortgage holiday and all the other holidays that companies are offering. There is no excuse whatsoever for this disgraceful behaviour. Take a lead from other players you miserable lot.
  40. 1 point
    We must also not forget that through the employees contribution of the tax on the players salaries Norwich City are contributing significantly to the income received by the government and thus I feel that they are very much within their rights to make use of this scheme.
  41. 1 point
    Are you in fact mollypinkfish ?
  42. 1 point
    Okay...leaving these tonight for tomorrow. More rock/pop and I could have picked so may examples but limiting myself to just one from each... 1. From the 12 Dreams of Dr Sardonicus ... Spirit, 1970. Could have chosen any of the 12, they're that good. Has to be in my top 10 album list. Ahead of their time. 2. Early Carole King. Class. The album "Everything's been said" is uniformly strong. 3. Again, I could choose maybe 50 Rundgren tracks (Keelansgrandad is fan) so I picked a very recent one of the 70 year old (at the time). Todd was the soundtrack of my youth. 4. Love John Watts guitar (biggest influence when I played). This 80s vibe might now seem dated (with cold war theme too) but I love the interplay of guitars and his taut voice. Still going is the old fella (big in Netherlands/Germany/Belgium) Love this thread btw. It's just the antidote to what's happening.
  43. 1 point
    A very worthy read https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/nhs-coronavirus-tests-matt-hancock-equipment-doctors-nurses-a9444231.html and no slippery spin on here or elsewhere will distract from where the blame lies people who were deemed 'unskilled' a few months back are now 'heroes' to paraphrase Kipling “If any question why they died, Tell them, because our politicians lied, As we wanted them to,"
  44. 1 point
    Not just the players. The execs need to show leadership on this too. It's one thing not being able to look a player in the eye and ask for restraint but the man in the mirror should cause no such problem
  45. 1 point
    Apart from anything else the look of the thing is awful. Totally ham-fisted PR. The club should have stressed the main aim was to help the non-playing staff on ordinary wages, talked at least in hopeful terms of getting a voluntary cut in players' wages, and and tied the announcement in with what seems now to be an initiative involving the players to help the community.
  46. 1 point
    So you're the chancellor of the exchequer now are you...you know exactly how this is and will be funded??. ...nobody's losing their wage here...the players nor the other staff at the football club....and hopefully you, I and nobody else will due to this government scheme. ..the club are doing their staff a favour here in envkoing this. They are allowing them to stay away from a potentially dangerous envirenment where they might contract a killer virus...whilst ensuring that they will be payed in full at a time where they may otherwise have lost their job. The only 'issue' here seems to be , once again people who have a jealousy or bitterness that footballers posess a skill that allows them to earn more money than they do. ....and I'll repeat...for a third time...high bracket eaners...such as footballers , pay a higher rate of tax, which contributes to the pot which the government is currently using to keep the general public in a wage during in the next weeks/months to keep food on the table and a roof over our head whilst allowing us to not be exposed (unless you're a key worker) to this global plague.
  47. 1 point
    Well obviously we have to import our currants as our mean temperature aren't high enough to promote the growth. SPring is the season they begin to flourish. I think we have to hope the southern hemisphere have enough in stock or the currant season may see the end of the spotted ****.
  48. 1 point
    There is a lot of confusion out there right now. Seems most people don't know their SARS from their EBOLA.
  49. 1 point
    Went to get a few bits earlier and due to the panic buying, shelves were stripped pretty much bare, so had to just grab whatever I could find.... As a result, I have just tried Crab paste for the first time... It tastes ****ing disgusting - how anyone eats that **** is beyond me... taking it straight back to the pharmacy in the morning.
  50. 1 point
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