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  1. 4 points
    I can’t figure out how to quote two posts Purple, but refer also to your post which begins by mentioning people’s new found faith in experts (which seemed to be missing during Brexit!). You say in the latter post that the experts don’t agree entirely. I think that has to be considered when accusing Boris of anything. Could he have listened to a different expert? Yes. Has he got ‘blood on his hands’ because he listened to one set of experts instead of another? Not in my book. Very difficult circumstances where different experts tell you different things and you’ve got various issues to weigh up. To your post above - do we have 100,000 policemen available to set up roadblocks etc.? Blame that on the Tories’ recent policies perhaps, but I struggle to see how Boris three weeks ago could find 100,000 policemen to govern roadblocks or curfews. Wacky reckons there have been 80,000-100,000 fines in Italy if I read his post right (seems high to me but could believe it). That - and your own stats re France - suggest even had Boris put more stringent measures in place earlier, people would continue to flout them. I’m not suggesting Boris has done everything perfectly (if there is a perfect way of dealing with an unprecedented crisis), but rather am suggesting that to claim he has ‘blood on his hands’ is extremely unfair. He took expert advice, acted on it, acted on other expert advice when he found that more persuasive, and your own/ Wacky’s stats suggest more stringent measures may have had little effect anyway. Add in that people continued to socialise despite government advice - and I’m afraid I cannot believe anyone didn’t know last weekend that they shouldn’t be socialising based on what the government had already said - and I think the criticism is over the top. Noted you didn’t make that specific claim, but that was what my initial post was in response to. (P.S. it almost hurts me not to give Boris stick I can tell you!)
  2. 3 points
    Anyone can make an argument on the timing and some of us have but the government are following the advice of the experts. The seem to be damned if they do and damned if they don't.
  3. 2 points
    In them days 18,000 was a bumper crowd and Robert Chase probably didn't want the extra expense of 2-3000 more seats. In fact Boardroom arguments over the new stand in 1985 was why Arthur South quit. The stand does have the foundations for an upper tier. Ever since the Worthy era the League 2 sized City stand has looked out of place with its low capacity. I think the old City stand which burnt down in 1984 held about 4500-5500. Until the mid 60s this stand had a lower tier of standing that were first converted to bench seats then the whole stand was realigned with one tier of plastic seats.
  4. 2 points
    I have been loads of times. 24 days is my record. You can just add manager, take them over again and continue the good work. Keano Lambert11 has in fact just been welcomed by supporters as a great appointment!
  5. 2 points
    It kind of is ‘getting your knickers in a twist’ if you whinge about it for several posts
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  7. 2 points
    We did this as an ice breaker at a meeting at work, going round the table one by one until one guy said “I’ve had dinner with Nelson Mandela”. No point carrying on after that.
  8. 2 points
    There are unconfirmed reports that Diane Abbott has COVID-27
  9. 2 points
    I understand the instinct to blame but I don’t think it is helpful in these unprecedented times. There are no easy right answers and it is always easier to criticise from the sidelines as opposed to making decisions in a new and fast changing situation. If you do want to blame then UK society and human nature s part of the problem.
  10. 2 points
    I'm pretty annoyed with my missus right now. I told her not to go out and panic buy, but I just walked into the kitchen and found Andy Carroll sitting at the table.
  11. 2 points
    Nothing to be ashamed of. You're hardly kicking up a great fuss, & certainly not posting a load of hate like some others on here. We all have problems & fears & it does no harm to share them.
  12. 2 points
    Seems like we are allowed to work but ,as you say all the suppliers have shut their doors this morning. Managed to get a few bits to keep going this week from one supplier who was good enough to open for a couple of hours but that's it. Seems there is a bill in front of parliament today to address the self employed conundrum. Fingers crossed. Stay safe and thoughts are with all affected.
  13. 2 points
    This headline may have a possibility of being correct perhaps in the coming weeks, but right now its a false statement completely. Its true that on a certain day after the 1st recorded both nations had equal deaths at 233, but 2 days later the Italy death toll was 463. That 2 days later for the UK was yesterday, where the total deaths stood at 335. Thats the factual state of things right now. Save that headline for if and when its actually true.
  14. 2 points
    Why mention the Guardian, as if that automatically renders something null? You can find any number of articles from around the world saying the herd strategy was adopted, before being dropped. Take this from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, which is one of the most respected scientific establishments in the world: A new report issued by a group of experts advising the UK government offers a blistering assessment of the country’s previous “herd immunity” approach to coronavirus, suggesting that as many as 250,000 people could die as a result—and that it would do little to stop health-care facilities from being overwhelmed. The background: Last week, Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced that his country would adopt a different coronavirus strategy from the ones its European neighbors have followed. Most governments have sought to suppress the spread of the virus by reducing mass gatherings, imposing quarantine restrictions, and encouraging social distancing. But Johnson said the country would forgo such measures with an unusual plan to prevent the outbreak from overwhelming the health-care system and protect the most vulnerable groups during peak infection seasons. Under the strategy, at least 60% of the population were expected to contract the virus and get better—mostly younger individuals who would face only a mild form of illness. The government believed this would result in a “herd immunity” that would subsequently protect vulnerable groups from infection, while avoiding “behavioral fatigue” that would cause people to stop cooperating with safety measures over time. Sharp realizations: That strategy was met with fierce criticism over the weekend. The Covid-19 Response Team based at Imperial College in London revealed on Monday that the government’s experts realized only over the last few days that its policy would “likely result in hundreds of thousands of deaths”—potentially 250,000—and that the burden on health systems would exceed their capacities and resources by as much as eight times.
  15. 2 points
    Wonder what he's teaching Wayne?
  16. 2 points
    Just had my letter from the NHS, good news is I can go into the garden.
  17. 2 points
    Lovely to see Wayne Rooney’s son home schooling him
  18. 2 points
    Did a shop Monday lunchtime. No queues, no crowds, no panic and full shelves. Just like normal times.
  19. 2 points
    Just getting Amazon, Apple and Google to pay would be a start
  20. 2 points
    The real truth is that the clubs need to know quickly that they can make plans for new season - and then as the community clubs they are free up their deep resources - medical staff, suites, grounds for the general need. Keeping them 'hanging on for a June restart is truy idiotic and frankly selfish.
  21. 2 points
    I have a John Peel story, which does go on a bit, so I shall keep it as brief as possible. 20 odd years ago, maybe more, I was involved with a local Suffolk and Ipswich League team which ran three sides at various levels. One of John Peel's (John Ravenscroft's) sons signed on for our 'A' team - Tom Ravenscroft, who was in his late teens at the time. He was a really good and popular lad. At the same time I got involved in a little social / drinking group, maybe 6 or 8 of us who met in the same pub every Friday. We dabbled in wholesaling organic wholefoods, just as a sideline, and always had a good laugh when we got down to the pub. We put more effort into drinking than we put into marketing. One particular night we were having an impromptu pop quiz which ran on and on into the early hours as the beer flowed. There reached a point where we were deadlocked over the answer to a particular question. One of our group - Mick O - insisted that a sixties singer 'Clarence Frogman Henry' had recorded a certain tune. None of the rest of us had even heard of Clarence Frogman Henry, so we refused to accept the answer. Mick dug his heels in this, and the dispute went on and on and on. Bear in mind it was after 2am and we had been drinking for hours, because what happened next does us no credit. Suddenly, Mick O got to his feet and walked over to the telephone which sat on the bar and said 'I know how to settle this'. Now, Mick managed the football team that Tom Ravenscroft played for, so he had John Peel's home telephone number. So, no matter the unearthly time, he rang the number, with us inanely giggling in the background. The phone rang and rang and eventually an extremely bleary John Peel answered. Mick simply asked 'Sorry to trouble you John, but have you heard of Clarence Frogman Henry?' With minimal hesitation, John Peel said 'No I haven't', and hung up. That should be the end of an embarrassing little story, but it wasn't. About two years after, on a sunny Sunday lunchtime, I found myself with Mick O and families at a North Suffolk pub called Cotton Trowel and Hammer. We were in the beer garden where there was a large swimming pool which drew the crowds in as soon as the sun shone. Sitting in the beer garden, Mick O suddenly reacted like dog which had got the scent of a rabbit. He had spotted John Peel and his family a few tables away, and like the naive guy he was he upped and walked across to JP's table and fixed his stare quizzically upon the world famous broadcaster. Eventually, John Peel enquired 'Do I know you?, to which Mick replied with three fateful words - 'Clarence Frogman Henry'. It is fair to say that JP was not amused. He said ' Do you know I had to go ex-Directory because of you, you c**t'. And that was it, end of conversation. I still find the story embarrassing and amusing in equal measure. The evils of alcohol!
  22. 1 point
    I've been playing alot of football manager. Trying to make Ipswich rubbish. I've succeeded I think. I was disappointed with their lucky point the first season so I'm determined not to make the same mistake again!
  23. 1 point
    A very sensible and likely figure. I would be surprised if any foreseeable expansion went beyond increasing capacity to 33,000.
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  25. 1 point
    I think some people I work had problems with Teams so we didn't try it, although many people have recommended it. In the end we went with Zoom. I'm a teacher, and Zoom seems the best platform that I've seen to do online lessons.
  26. 1 point
    It will only flatten when the incubation period following this current lockdown has passed, I dont think anything done before will have made that much difference.
  27. 1 point
    With all the extra free time self-isolation has given me, I've designed a potential City Stand expansion on Sketchup. I calculated the scale and size by a combination of wikipedia numbers, fag packet sums and just my eye - so if it's not perfect then that'll be why. I reckon the capacity of this stadium to be about 35,700. Link to view: https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/0c3a8066-7a23-4d4f-9b07-24d4f229814d/Carrow-Road
  28. 1 point
    I think people can use their common sense. The point is to cut out any social contact so as to stop the disease spreading between households. If you live in the country and walk your dog in fields or along empty roads then it doesn't really matter how often or how long for. Obviously people living in cities are much more at risk of coming into contact with each other when out walking/running etc hence the restriction to once a day. I read Gove said earlier that the police weren't likely to be stopping people in cars and asking them where they are going. I expect they will be looking at dispersing any gatherings and keeping an eye on supermarkets or city centres where people may congregate.
  29. 1 point
    I think we may safely assume actual infection rates are many times the reported rates (think about Vo in northern Italy a small village which tested everyone and a huge percentage who had the virus were asymptomatic) ...experts have suggested x10 and x20 but it may be many more. Herd immunity is therefore naturally occurring. The virus will play itself out (probably by the end of April looking at Italy and other graphs where number of new cases graph is easing) as it will find less people to infect... no hosts. It just depends how well we can protect those that need the extra care in ICUs.
  30. 1 point
    You’re ok, garages can remain open
  31. 1 point
  32. 1 point
    I think now with an unprecedented NHS critical crisis emerging in front of our own eyes (and let us be guided by the hundreds of doctors and nurses telling us not any politician) it is a question of praying for the best. Critical care beds are needed at 200 per 100,000 of the population and UK capacity at present is 6. It's not difficult to witness the daily numbers and the likely demand but none of us are experts. Yet, in the final analysis the figures won't lie. And I agree that any health service is likely to be at breaking point. It's a sad fact that people will go into ICU and loved ones won't be able to say goodbye to them. Shocking but already we are reading about this. Reports today tell us that a potential collapse in the health service will occur in the next 2 weeks (hospitals where I live have stated this. They know). The human cost to all this far outweighs political recriminations at this moment ... there will be years of that to follow.
  33. 1 point
    Every strategy in Europe has cost lives and will continue to do so.
  34. 1 point
    Going round in circles today . Thought I’d got it sorted in my head to go to work . As you say , builders merchants now shut !! Also listening to BBC radio , stressing only to travel to work if absolutely necessary and to check what those occupations are !?!? I realise there’s a ridiculous amount to sort out , but surely it can be clearer than this. Think the announcer may have got that wrong . Not helpful .
  35. 1 point
    Yes, this is my understanding. Of course doing nothing was discussed, all options would have been but there was never a plan to do nothing If you want boris tone the devil incarnate then you'll find the evidence If you want him to be a latter day florence nightingale I guess the same applies.
  36. 1 point
    No, not Johnson who has no strong opinions and changes them like a weather vane. Dominic Cummings, widely quoted as saying if a few pensioners died, so be it.
  37. 1 point
    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874742/Full_guidance_on_staying_at_home_and_away_from_others__1_.pdf i understand these are the official guidelines linked by the BBC. so you can still go to work if you can’t work from home but obviously keep distance i think Boris is just following scientific advice but obviously this changes as they are learning about the virus all the time but some less verbose and more clear and direct language would help which I think he is trying to do but not something that comes naturally to him.
  38. 1 point
    Full_guidance_on_staying_at_home_and_away_from_others__1_.pdf "You should only leave the house for one of four reasons." 4) Travelling to and from work, but only where this absolutely cannot be done from home. OTBC
  39. 1 point
    I was calling for something like this several weeks earlier so finally pleased if a bit too late. It's not a complete shutdown but with retail, pubs and clubs and 'social' events/reasons closed plus people working away from home that only really need to it will stop all unnecessary interactions and have a direct effect on the transmission of the virus. .
  40. 1 point
    I think we need to be careful pointing fingers, it’s government advisory which dictates his actions. Add to this to say cost lot of British lives is a little controversial as how many of those were in the final throws of their lives? Most who have succumbed have serious underlying illness. It’s harsh to point fingers during a testing time. Like I said I’m no Boris lover but he’s under serious pressure and so far is acting as advised, shame people on the street couldn’t do the same.
  41. 1 point
    The reporting has been somewhat contradictory but, as I understand it, people are allowed to go to work as normal if they can't work from home (and obviously assuming they are symptom free). However, a number of business types have been instructed to close; all of which seem to be in relation to customers visiting the premises. All non-essential retail is to close, but shops are encouraged to continue online sales and and deliveries will continue.
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  43. 1 point
    Yes , I think that’s what I’m thinking Van wink . Just want to show solidarity and really don’t want to get it wrong !
  44. 1 point
    Im in a similar boat over here Hermano , fortunately I do not need to have contact with either client or plant supplier this week anyway. So I'll drive on to get this week done. I have arranged communication via email and payment via bank transfer. Its as much as I can do to carry on being productive but involving no one else. We have been practising socialisolation for two weeks already. Starting to get usedto it now.
  45. 1 point
    You're lucky if your April bill has been lowered as I finally managed to get my Sports package paused,after 3 days of constant buffering and 2 snotty complaints using their on-line procedure,but only May and June has been amended.I had an automated response to complaint No 1 promising me a reply within 48 hrs but ........guess what........over 48 hours later I'd still had no reply so I sent another shouty complaint,following which I made 1 final attempt to do the Pause procedure and .......would you bl**dy believe it,my Sports Package pause went straight through in a few seconds. Why the hell did SKY not do this as an automatic procedure for ALL Sky Sports customers without the need for potentially overloading their website for days on end ?
  46. 1 point
    I'm sure common sense must prevail. If you drive out to somewhere isolated & go for a walk there can't be a risk. I'm not that far from London but can walk for miles without seeing a soul. Anyway, best of British ricardo. We're all rooting for you.
  47. 1 point
    So have the Hells Angels !!!
  48. 1 point
    There’s not much food left on the shelves so today I just bought what I could get my hands on, and I’ve tried crab paste for the very first time. It’s disgusting, I’m taking it back to the chemist first thing tomorrow to get a refund.
  49. 1 point
    I also accept Bill's analysis but nevertheless there must come a point in time when the impact on clubs becomes less were the season to be canceled. There is no point messing up next season (reducing it to half the games sarting in January, as the EFL chairman muted, because of insufficient time) with the massive negative financial impact that would have in order to save the quarter of a season we have remaining. The idea that we flout the CMO's advice and place extra burdens on the NHS in order to play football doesn't sit well with me at all. If proof that football has got an inflated view of itself were needed then this would be it.
  50. 1 point
    No, afraid not. After WW2 voters had been exposed to a different way of doing things. A comment from a Scottish soldier in one of Spike Milligan's war memoirs was something on the lines of how he had grown up eternally hungry as a kid beside the Clyde where boats unoaded masses of food, yet here he was in the desert miles from anything and a truck had lumbered out to feed him and the other three as they repaired a broken down vehicle. It was seing how things could be through education. health care,food and housing that saw a massive vote towards building on that after the war. If we can do all this to kill other people then we can do it to better the lives of our people ran the thought, Contrast that with Dec 2019 where those who had spent the past decade cutting education, training, housing and health were elected because they would get 'rid of immigrants'. The very immigrants who have been needed to cover the lack of UK trained workers. The lack of housing that meant UK workers could not move to where the work is. the challenge will be to move society to where improving housing, healthcare and education is of far greater benefit to society than a constant consumption of cheap goods of dubious origin. Kids may not always want everything TV ads says they should have. But they may want time with their parents - not in a B&B because the government thinks that won't cause long term damage. Add up the Housing Benefit that has been wasted on shoddy rented accomodation that could have been used to increase the nations housing stock. NHS money spent on agency staff because we drastically cut 'training our own'. What might be learnt is how much work can be done 'at home'. That doesn't mean an isolated employee stuck in a back bedroom, but in Norfolk redundant light industrial premises are not converted into someone's second home. They become a work place where employees can work in a 'work environment' so breathing life back into dormant villages. The hours saved on commuting can be used to walk their kids to school and get to know their neighbours. Instead of billions on an absurd H20 which will move workers 20 mins quicker we need to upgrade broadband to the fastest posible speed right across the country. It should be about moving information and dat to workers - not the other way round, Properly done the employee in North Norfol can receive medical, legal, banking etc consultation with anyone in the world. There is much that can be done, if we have the same mindset on 1945 - sadly it is the mindset of 1985 that now pervades.
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