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  1. 4 points
    I think you’ll find that Rupp is viewed internally as a classic old-school utility player. That he can provide second tier cover for the full back positions - an area where we simply could not honestly offer a first team pathway - means you have a quality flexible player who also solves some tricky strategic squad problems. Norwich simply can not justify - or even attract - top quality back up to sit on the bench like a non-playing photo-negative team. Parma
  2. 4 points
    Monty, your view is entirely reasonable - and I suspect fairly common - though I would suggest that Norwich’s determination to ‘do different’ mitigated against the seemingly equitable ‘middle ground’ option that you endorse. Personally I feel it underplays the unknowns that were inherent to our decision-making in advance of the season. The ‘Maddisons’ of this world do not have to come to Norwich. We can afford to ‘over-pay’ for them as we can afford headline fees above the going rate for players that won’t demand high wages and liabilities. Contingency bonuses, loyalty and success payments are only payable upon success (when you can afford them) - unlike the millstone in reverse when you have the liabilities and are facing losses. The ‘Maddisons’ of this world want to play however. They are increasingly rejecting lucrative contracts to get a distant squad number at a name club (bravo), in favour of ‘curating’ a career by carefully managing the best level they can reach whilst still being likely to play every week. To this effect we must offer a playing pathway to the ‘Maddisons’. Given that that is the model, it is not enough to talk about it, we must deliver it and - crucially - be seen to deliver it on a bright stage (the EDP is not enough).. This context provides the answer to your point: pre-season it was not in our interests to stall or block the pathways for up-and-coming assets such as Aarons, Lewis, Buendia, Godfrey, Cantwell et al. Other players were also expected to be central: Pukki, Leitner (yes), Hernandez, Klose, Vrancic even. Norwich cannot attract better players to come and not start however much they pay them (which they don’t). Norwich must be careful with money so must buy better than they have or - in effect - not at all. Hence loans for Amadou, Fahrmann, Roberts (all of which looked sensible). Players that are obviously better (pre-season) than what we had - or who would definitely be better than the level our players might reach - would be too expensive for us and would likely prefer elsewhere in any case, or could not be afforded upon relegation. The ‘Maddisons’ of this world are however thrilled by what we have done. Players of course only really think about themselves and their own careers. We have created fabulous PR for the model by not taking the ‘middle way’ and backing our young players (a back three with a 19, 20 and 21 year old is unheard of) - and furthermore sticking to it - is brave and hugely appreciated by ‘Maddisons’ (and many football clubs who are not brave enough to do it, though would love to self-identify that way). Regardless of sporting outcome, financially our key assets: Pukki, Buendia, Godfrey, Aarons, Lewis (and now Cantwell) have increased massively in value. This is success by any club’s measure and it feeds into the pathways that the Maddisons dream of (unlike us it is not finishing a career with Norwich City and helping us win the European Cup). We are a great stepping stone to initial higher level playing action, (some) more money and then the chance of a big move. This is our present and future, with the model designed to grow in increments. Perhaps we will see a Stadium legacy (which for me would be a cute rabbit out of the hat, justify most things and likely please all). So it was no accident and it still isn’t. Whether by design or necessity we have stuck to our model. Whether it has failed or not in sporting terms depends on your starting point, what constitutes success and how long a timeframe you judge it over. It also depends on what you view to be the fundamental responsibilities of business owners. We have played - and continue to play - the cards that we are holding. We are playing them to a hard plan (that seeing beyond the Premier will not be popular is well understood by all those in power). Given the parameters we have I am not sure we can do much else. Far from ‘little old Norwich’ it is quite strategically ruthless in many ways. Parma
  3. 3 points
    Thank you! You can probably guess the reasons I'm posting at 5 in the morning!
  4. 3 points
    I'm quite happy with where we are. I have no wish to "compete" in the Premier League on a long term basis if that means sacrificing what this club means to its supporters and I don't think any established PL team has what we have. I think being a "yo-yo" team is actually the best we can be and certainly the most enjoyable - I will cherish 2018-19 as the best season I have seen since I started going regularly in 1965 and we wouldn't have that as an established PL team. Maybe 2020-21 will be even better. I'd like to win a cup again - 1985 is a long time ago. I don't care if we get relegated but I don't want us to be ridiculed. Mata said that we have "personality" and I think the wider football world agrees that we are a good team who plays good football, but that we are naïve and open. It's frustrating that we can't defend, but if that's the price for the football going forward then so be it. Rather that than watch Burnley or Palace. When you played with your mates no one wanted to be a full back. The older I get the more I value the club and how it keeps friends and families together. Results matter, but not that much. I trust our current management team more than any other we have had in my lifetime. They don't lie or try to mislead. I am concerned that nephew Tom will have the necessary skill to keep it all going, but I am prepared to give him a chance.
  5. 2 points
    Given that we've just signed Rupp and Duda, and this guy is nearly 34, I think this can safely be filed as a non-starter... the only way I could see it happening is if Amadou's loan is terminated and Biglia came in until the end of the season. He's a hell of a player, mind - combines the playmaking skills of Vrancic with the combative edge of Tettey.
  6. 2 points
    Short memory? And congratulations Terminally! The first 21 years are the worst.
  7. 2 points
    Yeah I get people questioning his age and position generally but a pet hate is when fans become the most simplistic species on the planet and cry "BUT WHAT ABOUTZ AR DEFENDERZ" as if we are incapable of signing more than one player in a window.
  8. 2 points
    I cannot think of a single area where the club is failing to provide me with the 'product' which I expect. Last season was fantastic. This season is disappointing. There is not a club in world that does not have disappointing seasons. Not one. The club has integrity, two-way respect, it provides a great environment for us all. It strives to succeed within its means. It is open and exceptionally approachable. It is always looking to improve.l I really don't ask for much more than this. Would I like Delia and Michael to be 500 times more wealthy? Possibly, but not if it spoiled the fantastic club we have.
  9. 2 points
    TJ, many on this board forget that things are binary: you either do sign players in January or you don’t. If you’re struggling and you don’t you will be heavily criticised, if you do you have to take on huge liabilities (a £5m player is actually a £15m or £20m player: £5m + £50k p/w x 4 years + bonuses+clauses). The transfer fee - often the number reported or referred to - is often fairly irrelevant and easily payable in the Premier. It is the wage and package liabilities that are onerous and destructive in the Championship where a £5m-£10m loss per annum is ‘normal’ . Thus a quality player on loan with something to prove is an excellent piece of business. Farhmann and Amadou are logical versions of this model. Unlike many other clubs - with the ownership and operational model they have - Norwich must focus on keeping their ongoing monthly outgoings low. This poses a problem because actually - upon promotion - capex could easily be spent. It is the contingency of ‘what if’ and the subsequent post-Premier pcm outgoings obligation that is the handbrake. De-facto then we need to keep the money to pay the losses post-relegation. Asking whether one inherently causes the other is a reasonable question. In this context Duda is an excellent signing, in both a sporting and operational sense. Parma
  10. 2 points
    IF we go down and IF the binners are promoted there's 6 points right there...
  11. 1 point
    True, but when they become teenagers , you'll have sleepless nights for other reasons.... ever tried persuading a 16 year old that 2am IS late enough to be picking them up from a party? Or waving your only daughter off on her first all girls holiday....to Magaluf...there's a whole weeks sleep gone there. ... in one dose. As someone said above... the first 21 years are the worst. P,S more than 2 kids in less than 5 years means you can't get 3 baby seats/ boosters across the back seat of a normal car. This is very god advice unless you want to drive a people carrier or minibus.
  12. 1 point
    I bet you say that to all the boys. Naughty boy
  13. 1 point
    Yeah. This forum could do with a negative, whinyassed thread. Maybe someone should mention finances and funding as well.
  14. 1 point
    The new manager would have to be German and have very similar philosophies to Farke I feel. How do you do about finding somebody similar to a manager that people on here believe to be special? Quite a few players at the club knew Farke before arriving, Leitner, Stiepermann, Zimmermann, for a start. It does help a manager to have allies in the dressing room. A new manager would probably need to bring in a few of his own players but that could upset the apple cart. I just hope he stays really, I'm not sure there is some sort of limitless German conveyor belt... Of coaches or cheap players. I'd be seriously worried if he left.
  15. 1 point
    How do you know it isn’t? Have I missed something? Is there a written rule that states we sign players in a certain order according to their positions? There’s approximately 3 weeks of the transfer window left
  16. 1 point
    Page 206 of the thread is just people insulting each other. Guys, if you need to change letters to avoid the filter you are probably not going to add anything to the debate, so why bother posting?
  17. 1 point
    That's obvious Ron.
  18. 1 point
    I strongly suspect that you've never bought a ticket for a Norwich game ever.
  19. 1 point
    Check out his stats on that page too, 1 game played for us, 65 goals
  20. 1 point
    Surprise. NFL analysis still has Andrew Luck in the Top Ten of QBs. I must admit, I don't know how many times I have seen the Colts. Obviously a top team back in the early days in Baltimore but apart from the odd season when Dickerson was their runner, the seemed to suit their old nickname, the Dolts. I agree that is fair about Jimmy. All I can assume is that Shanahan thinks he will stick to the plays which should be enough with that running game. But should anyone stop it, he doesn't look capable of taking control from the pocket. Interesting KC, that you have Brady and Brees far apart on the list. Both in their forties and defying Old Father Time. Do you really think Brady is past it? And don't forget, Manning is still on the roster at the Giants
  21. 1 point
    I will explain as succinctly as I can: I fell in love with NCFC one night in the early 1970's, listening on the radio to a latter stages League Cup game against Chelsea at a fog-shrouded Carrow Road. Affection for the club was embedded that night, and has never left me. Strange, but true. I have lived well away from Norfolk all of the years since until moving to the city last year. During those years living away from Norwich I did work for another EFL club, some of it voluntary, never full-time, doing the things I love in and around football. Working inside football you soon get to see the underbelly - the good and the bad in roughly equal measure. At one time I used to think that I had decent contacts with every club in the League. So, in 2017 I decided it was finally time to cut my ties elsewhere and to commit full time to following City, initially travelling the distance required and more recently as a resident of the city. Now the rub. This is what I have found: the effort that the club puts into treating its supporters fairly and with respect is pretty much unmatched within the upper reaches of the pyramid. The integrity of the club is unmatched. The communication with fans is equally outstanding. The level of entertainment provided is impressive for the size of the club. That's enough to be going on with, I think.
  22. 1 point
    Okay I'll try. I expect to see us playing either in The Championship or The Premier League (not League 1). I hope that we will become an established Premier League team (although I'm not quite sure what a realistic definition of 'established' is - 3 seasons? 5 seasons? forever? ) I expect to be entertained when I go and watch us play (that doesn't necessarily mean us winning the game). I expect the club to be open and honest with fans about what they are doing and what they are trying to achieve. I expect the club to be run in a way that doesn't endanger our future existence - e.g. by not spending recklessly in the pursuit of short term success. I expect the players on the pitch to show effort and commitment.
  23. 1 point
    The worst thing about getting promoted from the Championship is that you have to play in the Premier League. I imagine if we had to play in the 'premiership' we wouldn't be physical enough, the salary cap would be a challange and our players and fans would be confused by the rules of Rugby Union.
  24. 1 point
    The owners, the manager, the board....what about the fans too? Aren't we to blame too? And the geography of Norwich? Surely worthy of your critical eye? I can't think of anything else to blame but maybe you can help in future posts.
  25. 1 point
    Farke doesn't have a Saudi prince behind him. Farke performed a miracle last season. He deserves a free hit at the big time.