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You'd hope this sort of news story would mean people appreciate the approach we've taken this season and why we've done it; and how it could put us in a very strong position longer term. I mean, it won't. But you'd hope.

Alan Johnson telling it like it is:

Currently raging at the Corbynite cultists on twitter refusing to admit they are the problem. People like this claim to care about helping ordinary people but actually stand in the way of that happening. Blair actually made a material difference to the lives of working people because he realised you can't change things without winning elections. Corbyn has done **** all to actually make life better for people but these middle-class Marxists who never moved past their simple 6th form politics and who don't actually need a Labour government to help them fawn over him and his perceived purity. Sickening.

People saw a little kid lying on coats in a hospital. They saw a PM not giving a ****. And they gave him an overwhelming mandate to carry on. I'm sorry, I have no common ground with these people. One good thing to come out of this is that there are no more scapegoats. Can't blame the EU, Remainers, the Irish, Labour etc. Anything good or bad will be entirely down to the people that voted for it. Good luck to the good guys, not sure what fresh hell awaits us but I am sure we'll be back one day.

A British Prime Minister putting Britain first. How quaint.

He might not be happy but his analysis, as always, is absolutely spot on.

Never going to live that one down. @ricardo That said it will be interesting to see what 2020 brings (relegation might rain on my parade as well). Very little chance of Johnson getting a trade deal so it is likely there will be a Brexit Crisis. Will he crash out with no deal or will he use his big majority to sell out the Brexiteers with BRINO.

Any sign of pound / dollar parity yet🤔😉

Looking on the bright side for those crying into their beer, I think you will find Boris will follow a much more liberal agenda than many of you fear.

The one thing I've learnt about the 'left ' from this forum is this "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others" They Couldn't win a raffle, if they bought all the tickets!!

Anyone who doesn’t mind a 15/20 minute walk could try Tudor road (LE35JJ) and surrounding streets.It’s convenient as it’s just off the A47 and will cut traffic out on return journey to Norwich. If your in Leicester relatively early and fancy a free spot try it although there’s a cheap car park (£3 )near by.

Christmas has come early - this is a victory for everyone that voted to leave, were sneered at, told they didn't know what they were voting for and looked down upon by the MINORITY but OVER 10 MILLION brainwashed yoghurt-brained numpties voted for hard-left Marxist Labour.That's over 10 million of our fellow citizens, could not engage critical thinking past "free broadband" and "the Tories will ruin the NHS" Corbyn on the scrap heap 🙂.

This is a wonderful demonstration of the common sense of the ordinary people of our country, the silent majority of us who have had three years of badgering and hectoring from the remain brigade, the establishment, and the rest of them - not to mention a lot of people who make endless posts on here which they think are clever when they aren't.

Absolutely where I'm at with this. I share no values with the people who put Boris in office. They don't believe in tolerance, respect or an equal society where there is a level playing field. The working class North were f**ked by Thatcher and that wasn't their fault - this time, they'll reap what they sow.

But why is it lucky? We were brave enough to outbid the others in signing Madders. One mans luck is another mans just reward and another mans plans working out.

So this is my BTTS line. Again thanks for all the suggestions for this one, here's my final six for this... Sheffield Wednesday v Nottingham Forest Barnsley v QPR Northampton v Forest Green Arsenal v Man City Brentford v Fulham Sunderland v Blackpool Thanks everyone for their help this week - hopefully we'll get some joy somewhere along the line, whether through mine or FTW's picks.

Here we go. Many thanks to everybody for their suggestions - after much thought and some very tough decisions, this is what I've gone for in my final six: LIVERPOOL v Watford PRESTON v Luton AYR v Alloa BAYERN MUNICH v Werder Bremen JUVENTUS v Udinese BRAGA v Pacos Ferreira Thanks everyone for their picks, this was tough and this is possibly playing it safe but I thought it better to get a win on the board if at all possible than worry about potential returns. My second line is coming soon...

"Your party? Hold on a minute sister. I think you will find it’s OUR party now. Britain has Boris and a blue collar army. Nationalism is back. British people first." Katie Hopkins. With friends like those, who needs enemas.

Lots of left wingers protesting in Londan ”Not My Prime Minister”😀 I think you will find he is.

Who remembers defenders of the earth? Loved that cartoon.

Hi folks, It's been really tough working out how best to divide my tenner; obviously it's a home banker and as such there's not much to be made backing Leicester. However, given how easily they stuffed Villa last weekend I just can't see how we'll get anything from the game. Let's go for: £2 Maddison to score anytime (17/10) £2 Double result Draw/Leicester (16/5) £2 Vardy hat-trick (13/2) £1 Zimmermann to score anytime (25/1) £1 Norwich over 1 card in each half (20/1) 25p Scorecast: Vardy first goal, 3-1 Leicester (33/1) 25p Scorecast: Vardy first goal, 4-1 Leicester (45/1) 25p Scorecast: Vardy first goal, 3-0 Leicester (18/1) 25p Scorecast: Vardy first goal, 4-0 Leicester (28/1) 25p Scorecast: Pukki anytime, 3-1 Leicester (20/1) 25p Scorecast: Pukki anytime, 4-1 Leicester (28/1) 25p Scorecast: Pukki anytime, 4-2 Leicester (50/1) 25p Scorecast: Pukki anytime, 5-1 Leicester (50/1) A bit of a random assortment!

A lot of A, a lot of B.

Seems like the Tories are now the party of the “working class” the “middle class” “ the upper class” and of course the “chinless toffs”.

Ain't this the greatest bass line in popular music

I imagine we probably will but by the next time we get to vote on the 'important stuff', i.e. another 5 years it will be way too late to repair the damage caused by yesterday (even if we win then, which frankly seems very unlikely especially without Scottish seats). For sure as far as the climate emergency and Brexit are concerned the damage will be irreparable. The economy who knows?? The Tories have abandoned even the pretence of competency so I think we can assume that after another 5 years there will be a massive and very long term repair job required there.

It only seems crazy until you realise that Adam Webster went from Bristol City to Brighton for £22 million. Webster is three years older than Godfrey, had never played Premier League football before that move (and of course was so bang average that he'd played for Ipswich for two seasons). Godfrey has already captained England U21s and is playing week in week out in the most competitive league in world football having impressed massively the season before in The Championship.

No they dont, exactly the same as Militant........sadly for them there is a long and tough road ahead before a new Neil Kinnock comes along and exposes them as a cult, which is all they are.

I agree that this has been coming for some time but I also think the FPTP system has much to answer for. However in that particular post I wasn't blaming FPTP for the result so much as supporting the report from John Curtiss that the idea that achieving a massive majority will do nothing to end the disputes and especially the deep divisions in the country. I think he was referring specifically to Brexit but he could just have easily been talking about climate change or the economy - you remember I'm sure the decades when the economy was the all important issue in elections. IMO the main reason the progressives lost is simple and obvious - they were divided and for that I blame Labour entirely. Their refusal to work with the progressive parties on top of their own incompetence in a number of areas meant we never had a serious chance of winning. But although you rightly say that Lib Dems remain untrusted but over 3.5m people voted for them and were rewarded with 11 seats. The Greens, I would suggest, are perhaps more trusted by many people but the 865,000 that voted for them were rewarded by one seat. 865,000 for 1 MP!!! Compared to the under 40,000 needed to elect a Tory MP. Goes against the grain but in an attempt at fairness the Brexit Company got nearly 650,000 votes and got nothing, whereas the equivalent number of Tory votes would have produced 16 seats by my simple arithmetic. Unfairness on that scale IMO means the divisions just continue to fester and get deeper, and of course its not just the English nationalists that have won big. FPTP has helped all the nationalists in the Union especially the Scots and this has been also been brewing for some time. The Scots are on their way out of the union, with the Northern Irish not too far behind - those divides have definitely been re-inforced by the election. FPTP is not the only problem but it is an major enabler and magnifier of the deep fractures in our society.

No @Creative Midfielder, this has nothing to do the FPTP electoral system. We progressives lost, and lost big. The reasons are clear. There was a failure to present any kind of argument that resonated with the electorate. If Labour had exceeded 35% and the Liberal Democrats exceeded 15% you might have had an argument. It is not about election day though, this has been coming since the Referendum. The Conservative Remainers, now paying for it with their demise, failed to grasp the opportunities for a 2nd referendum when they had it and now it, and they, have gone. Corbyn's ridiculous abivalency on Brexit failed dismally. The Labour manifesto contained some popular policies but was less than a sum of its parts. The Liberal Democrats remain, quite rightly untrusted. Anti-semitism was never dealt with, and neither was the question of competency. Every cloud has a silver lining though, selfishly I am financially better off under Johnson's tax plans as opposed to Corbyn's, it looks like neo-liberal eceonomics is dead for a generation in this country and all the Brexiteers excuses are gone. They broke it, they own it.

City 1st was a nasty little sociopath who got his comeuppance. No sympathy from me.

What a lot of tosh you Corbynistas spout. The NHS performance in Labour run Wales is worse than in England so the idea that only the socialists can be trusted with the NHS is utter boll*x. I laugh my head off when you hard lefties describe Boris as liar. Corbyn and McDonnell are paragons of the truth? My ar$e. Boris took the Mayorality of predominately socialist Greater London. He did such a lousy job according to you naysayers that the voters of GL voted him in for a second term. The Brexiteers are thicko little Englanders mantra is still shouted out by you idiots. No wonder traditional Labour voters gave you Marxist loving scum a good kicking. Let’s hope the centralist Labour members can regain control of their party so we can have an opposition worthy of the name. BTW, is Billy Billsh1te still sulking in some dark corner?

Well what a wonderful night and a landslide victory that totally vindicates what a brave few of us have been saying on this forum in the face of mean-spirited intolerance. Hopefully some will now realise they do not reflect the views of the majority and they will stfu, if even for a little while. So yesterday was your second referendum and the answer coming back was that the country is more determined than ever to leave the EU. Last night was also the rejection and total humiliation of a nasty, racist leader of the opposition by the ordinary decent people of this wonderful country. A shame on all those who, despite all the facts, still voted for that evil piece of work who hopefully will now slink off into the darkness where he and his ideas belong. So you have a choice. To get onboard this project and start to make this country great again or you can f off elsewhere. I'm sure the EU will welcome you with open arms. The rest of us are done with you.

Exactly - nothing to do with luck. Players are the club’s assets. Buy cheap with potential, sell for a profit and reinvest. If you come across hard times and your squad is full of 35 year old journeymen you don’t get out of trouble. If it’s full of young exciting players who you’ve helped improve significantly, then you do.

Quelle surprise. No wonder the Tories are so dead set on ripping the heart out of education funding....

That was Bercow's problem. No responsibility to be neutral

but Sky have Bercow on there and he's extremely insignificant.....

As a left-leaning bleeding-heart liberal, this is even worse than I feared. I knew that the general electorate wouldn't go for Corbyn, and you Conservative voters must have been rubbing your hands together watching Corbyn cleave his party down the middle while you dithered. It's the battle of who f*cked up least, and the Conservatives seem to have won it by a landslide. All I would say, though, is if you have Sky News then give it a whirl rather than the BBC. I'd usually watch Beeb, but Sky have Bercow on there and he's extremely insightful.

Stunning result

. The real fault lies with morons like you who are too thick to know what you're voting for. The lefties just can't get past this. It's why they lost.

Wrong leader and wrong front bench. They need to clear out the Momentum nutters, but they probably wont, nothing more than protest group. Pound is soaring.

Best of luck. I suspect some of those who are celebrating tonight will be less joyful in a few years' time, so enjoy while you can.

German Bundesliga for Graham.. Schalke v Eintracht Frankfurt Home Win BTTS for Graham... Barnsley v QPR For Wolfie..... If you're feeling reckless with a quid Norwich win is 12/1.

Yep... Annoys me when we hero worship ex-players who are playing for opposing teams. Holty was always fun though. Big ol cheer when he showed up at Carrow Road with Villa (I think) then we booed him every time he touched the ball during the game! That was funny, as with a character like Holty you could get away with it. He knew we loved him really!

What's disappointing me is how refs are being undermined. Yes, they can't see everything, so giving them a bit of help on a dodgy offside or a handball that is on their blindside is fine, but only after the passage of play has finished. Its getting to the point where any contentious decision is being reviewed rather than accepting that the referee is in charge of the game and his decision should stand. As I said earlier in the thread, he blew for the offside 3rd goal when he saw the linesman's flag go up, so we stopped and the ball ended up in the net. It's really confusing for the players - if they see a flag go up, their natural reaction is to stop. For the red card, he gave what he saw (wrongly, I admit), so should he have just blown for the free kick then made the TV shape with his hands before producing a card?

For me he should get a massive round of applause pre match when his name is read out and then if he comes over after the game a clap and a rendition of his song just nothing during the game. I remember going to Derby a few season ago and the away fans where singing Bradley Johnsons song throughout the game and he popped up with the winner 15 minutes from time and they continued to sing his name during the game, didnt get that if im honest! Before and after the game fine, during the game not needed.

I happen to like most of the way things have progressed. Twenty four seven live football suits me. 3pm Saturdays, Sports Report on the radio on the drive home and then Gerry Harrison on Sunday after that traditional roast is all full of marvellous feelings but reflect a bygone age. (never much enjoyed the brass band at half-time though.)Times change, so do we. What alternative is there but to accept, like it or not? There's plenty to like as well after all. "I can't change time, but time changes me" (Bowie?) I certainly wouldn't want to swap the internet and it's increasing availability for watching live football for that once a year live game, which was the FA Cup Final and which brought every kid in the street out to kick a ball about at 5pm. because it was such a novelty. Of course there is a lot wrong. The excessive finances, the cynicism on the field of play, agents etc. but life has never been a cafeteria whereby you can pick and chose just what suits. Overall, I've never had instant access to (all) sport (it's not just a football thing you know) and enjoyed it more than I do now. Question: Is there some pre-ordained ruling that the beautiful game should be primarily a live spectator game enjoyed by thousands rather than a televised sport enjoyed by millions now that the technology makes it possible? Neither is it an either/or. Just more choice.

We have never had any success by spending money. Recently it nearly finished the club. If you are happy for your club to buy success with a completely new team, go and support Manchester City.

The powers that be couldn’t care less about those that pay to actually go to games. They haven't since the TV money was greater than any income through the turnsttile.

Bit ironic Wenger being put in charge of var bearing in mind he never saw anything

I’m seriously disillusioned with football. All the playacting, the cheating and poor decisions have always frustrated me but now, with the use of technology, those in charge are making a day out at the footie a confusing, doubly frustrating and simply angry experience. Im not talking about just Norwich either, decisions in numerous games baffle me and are taking the simple joy out of the game. Too many subjective decisions that a referee makes a subjective decision about are then being reviewed by someone else a long way away to make a different subjective decision and overrule the man in the middle of the action. Only clear and obvious errors would be overturned we were told. B******* The powers that be couldn’t care less about those that pay to actually go to games. We’re left wondering what’s going on with no replays and no explanation while we watch the referee stand in the middle of the pitch with his finger to his ear, the announcer often announcing a decision pending as the result is given on the pitch. VAR has got worse as the season has gone on as they try to rectify early problems, which has simply lead to inconsistency and more confusion on rules of both VAR and of football itself! Scrap it and give the game back to the fans. Home and away supporters were united at numerous times throughout the game ’its not football anymore’ ’f*** VAR’