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  1. 9 points
    No plan B , poor timing of substitutes, not good enough etc etc etc what a bunch of whinging knobs!!!! Get a grip!! Burnley have not been top 10 in this division, played in Europe for nothing - they know a trick or two!! They did us in the first 20 minutes bloody well, and then shut up shop . Well played Burnley. But we were not as poor as the knobs are making out. Young team , learning - get real!!!!!!!
  2. 7 points
    The trouble is that you see games like WHU (a) and Burnley (a) and some supporters will class those as winnable games, when the reality is that they are incredibly difficult games away from home against sides far more established and with far greater resources than us at the moment. A draw in either game would have been a fine result. We have so many injuries at the moment than some of the 'plan b' options simply aren't available as compared to last season when we would go to a wing back system and use Onel and Max as wing backs and stick Rhodes on with Pukki. We have so few defensive options that Amadou is playing in a position where he is less experienced and Godfrey is carrying an injury. Byram is just learning his way. With the problems we have at the moment, and undoubtedly the hardest first six fixtures of any side in the league, to have 6 points at this stage is a fine achievement. Cut the manager some slack maybe.
  3. 6 points
    As the title of the thread says......just enjoy the fact we are playing football in the Premiership, embrace it, enjoy it, do not get down if we lose, do not go overboard if we win, just enjoy it..............
  4. 5 points
    Farke doesn’t employ a Plan B because he doesn’t want to. He doesn’t want to because - over the whole season - the best odds of success are achieved by a clear, repeated methodology. An inflexible repeating methodology is necessary when you have inferior resources and need to amortise the differential by specialising more intensely at very specific pattern of play and movement principles. We do not have to guess at this. We have seen it very clearly over the last 18months. Some games - Burnley Away with low-rent-but-effective and well-drilled 442 as an example - will disrupt our unorthodox orthodoxy. So be it. It might have worked the other way around and they could have spent 90 minutes chasing our fluid shadows. We have to play the odds as outliers. Change is a dangerous thing in that context. The calculation is that the overarching methodology is more valuable and more likely to win us points - at this stage in our development - than mixed messages and a more horses-for-courses approach. It is the price we pay. I fully endorse it. Parma
  5. 5 points
    https://www.alongcomenorwich.com/articles/burnley-duncs-verdict/
  6. 5 points
  7. 4 points
    This plan b nonsense stems from the fact that what many posters called "tippy tappy football" has never really been accepted. The critics just went quiet when we were winning. Nothing wrong with that, I don't like the more direct styles but you can bet i'd be quiet if we were winning playing that way. It's not just on here, in the stadium too there's a lot of unease about how we play. Shouts of "get rid" as we try to play out still happen because many fans are totally frustrated by it and prefer a more up and at em approach. If the results dry up at home the booing will be back, Webber will probably say if you cant appreciate this football go and support someone else, and with two shakes of a lambs tail the Messiah will once again be a very naughty boy.
  8. 4 points
    6 games and 6 points. An average of a point a game gives us 38 points, and another season in the premiership. The comment ‘No plan B ‘particularly amused me. I believe he is one the most astute coaches to have worked at this club, and to suggest the he and his team have no plan B, is ludicrous, and if a journalist had written it, he would quite rightly be accused of lazy journalism.
  9. 3 points
    We have beaten the 2nd and 17th placed teams and lost to those in 1st, 5th, 9th and 11th places. other than the fabulous result against Man City these results fit with the likely expectations for these positions. Given we have played 4 of the top 10 to date we are doing well and there is nothing to be despondent about at this stage.
  10. 3 points
    Blimey - that's two matches in a row for Villa against 10 men and they've managed to get a grand total of 1 point from them. Sounds as though they need a Plan B. 😉
  11. 3 points
    Lol. It was a real post from after the West Ham game though. Honest. Just not mine.🙃
  12. 3 points
    I think Farke has briefly mentioned our plan B and we saw it last season...3 at the back and wingbacks. We turned several games because of it. The reality is we dont have the personnel right now for us to use it. I imagine the belief is opting for that with our current set of available players would weaken us further.
  13. 3 points
    Sorry king canary to touch upon your sensitivities but when a **** is being a **** you have to call him out!!
  14. 3 points
    Knee jerk reactions aren't needed, neither is a post calling fans knobs for having opinions.
  15. 3 points
    Balance and perspective is what is required. Accept that we are new and inexperienced at this level, we’ll have good days and bad days while learning each week. We have an exceptional coach who is learning all the time too, Sean Dyche has been round the block several times but you can bet the next time we play them we will perform better. There is no need for knee jerk reactions. Judge the club and it’s staff on the last 26 months rather than the last 90 minutes.
  16. 2 points
  17. 2 points
    Not at all. Anyone can express an opinion. It's just a little humility and a basic recognition that managers understand the nuances of the game more than the vast majority of casual viewers/posters wouldn't go amiss.
  18. 2 points
    I don’t think that’s just us though, I think most fans of English football have grown up with a safety first, get rid, physical, don’t pass it around at the back type approach. Many of us will have played youth football as kids or Sunday league or whatever with the same approach. That’s beginning to change and even at “grassroots” and pub footy level nowadays you see much more willingness to try and pass it around. I don’t think the plan b needs to be a change of formation or players necessarily. We need to figure out a way to beat the press - sometimes you can’t and results like yesterday will happen. It sounds as though Leitner coming on helped a bit yesterday - probably having a slightly “trickier” player in holding midfield helped beat the press. Maybe the five at the back option mentioned above would give us (a) an additional player to help playing it out but (b) also the opportunity to push the wing backs higher, allowing a slightly more direct option to by pas the press. Agreed three/five at the back doesn’t work at the moment with injuries though. One option might be to play a more out and out winger to stay high and wide, and give us that outlet to try and by pass the press/make the opposition think twice about closing down with the extra man. You’d think Roberts was the obvious choice but doesn’t seem to be rated. Drmic possibly?
  19. 2 points
    You’ve kind of answered your own question. As I said, Plan B is a lot like Plan A but possibly with subtle changes in formation and different faces. Farke did this again yeaterday; we went 3 at the back and employed wing backs as confirmed by Michael Bailey on Twitter: FTR, Norwich are now in a back 3: Amadou, Godfrey, Lewis. McLean and Byram wing-backs. ⏱️81 | 🍷 2-0 🔰 #NCFC #BURNOR #Burnley So there you have the subtle changes that you’re advocating. 🤷‍♂️ Of course it isnt perfect and we are hampered by injuries but I think the only real criticism that can be levelled is perhaps the timing of these changes. Even then, I think it’s because of the belief in our Plan A and wanting to give it as long as possible to work. Given what I’ve seen. I’d struggle to argue against that philosophy either.
  20. 2 points
    Everyone's entitled to an opinion of course, it's just that sometimes it seems that there's some perverse pleasure taken by some to list our faults ad infinitum.
  21. 2 points
    The good thing is it really is only one or two that are moaning, and I can’t ever remember a time in a message board era where 99.9% of supporters are fully supportive of what the club are trying to achieve, it’s quite refreshing. I would take the post I think you’re referring to with a pinch of salt, and not blow this out of proportion. Yes, Farke, who is blessed with fortune telling hindsight, should have made 3 substitutions at the 45min mark, moving Godfrey upfront, and turning Emi and Todd into bruising overlapping centre backs, but that’s what you get when we ain’t got no Plan B, I bet he won’t be having a cuppa and cake on his couch this afternoon the naughty boy
  22. 2 points
    Webber made the point in a recent interview that if a team plays it long and it doesn't work nobody expects them to have a plan B of quick short passing. There's nothing wrong with our style of play. If you make mistakes at the back and fail to take your chances up front, this is what happens. They were another big strong physical side and unfortunately we didn't really have the strength to match them or the quality to brush them aside. The biggest disappointment for me was that despite having a decent amount of possession around their box in the second half I don't think their keeper made a save. As to the point about us not liking being pressed, well sure but on recent evidence neither do Man City or Arsenal. It's a calculated risk for both sides as the more numbers they commit to pressing us the more space they leave if we break through. Presumably if we weren't prepared for teams to press us at the back we wouldn't play quite so much tikka takka in our own box so it must all be part of the plan.
  23. 2 points
    Seconded, just like after the Hammers game, all these softcox, picking holes, bit of backbone required here. Webber said we'd be up against it this season and it's going to be a long one if we don't back our boys. We had the smallest budget and now have a pile of injuries to contend with, a little perspective please.
  24. 2 points
    Interesting that Farke is now classed by some as having a record of having an 'appauling use' of substitutes. Probs worth looking at how many games we turned around last season. Oh, and how many late goals we scored. Oh, and the fact we won the f*cking league despite the odds being significantly against us. Oh, and finally the fact that I didn't see anyone on the bench who could have provided what we needed. We needed to gain control in midfield early on in the second half and we had no options to make that happen. Roberts coming on earlier was probably seen by Farke as more likely we'd lose what little control we had in the middle with less cover on their counters.
  25. 1 point
  26. 1 point
    I would think after yesterday a few will be available on social media or on buy back from the club. Two 2-0 defeats away from home on the bounce will deter several Johnny Come Lately's who got tickets.
  27. 1 point
  28. 1 point
    This should be in the Premiere league thread .
  29. 1 point
    How on earth did you get the name Aggy, Aggyo ?🤭
  30. 1 point
    I'd conclude by reiterating that our plan B options are currently limited by injuries. But also that Farke has consistently, throughout his entire time in charge, left substitutions way too late. It'd be my one criticism of him, and I made it last season too. He rarely gives players enough time on the pitch to make a difference; I can't remember him ever making a tactical substitute at half time, for instance, in a match where a particular player was having an ineffective game.
  31. 1 point
    Exactly Hogesar. Think of the Bristol City away game last year when we were 2-1 down. Hernandez came on as a 76th minute sub and at the same time Aarons moved to left wing back. Our equalizer came when Hernandez crossed from the right (he more commonly plays on the left) to Aarons who headed home at the far post. I know that both Aarons and Hernandez are injured at the moment - you know that both Aarons and Hernandez are injured at the moment - since it's been widely reported I assume that the whole world knows that Aarons and Hernandez are injured at the moment. And yet still people come on here saying that we haven't got a Plan B. Our Plan B is injured!!!!
  32. 1 point
    West Ham are ordinary at this level. If we want to stay up we need to be beating mid-table teams like West Ham...
  33. 1 point
    Preferably with a European pedigree. We don't want Pulis or Dyche posting on here thank you very much....
  34. 1 point
    With the 4 games, Burnley, palace, villa and Bournemouth, I really did not expect us to do it at Burnley. We knew we had to be at it against a physical team and tbh we did what we have done against teams of that strength. Palace is the game where I can actually see the match up in players, style and formation where we hold an advantage. Villa will be on us straight away and as always beat the teams that come up with you and you can help move yourself out of trouble. Bournemouth I would expect them to use the guile as Burnley have tbh. So this easier stretch is not as easy as you may think. For Burnley we had to be at the races and we will, as farke said, learn a great real from this result. At home we will be more prepared for them. Shame as if we had the physicality we could get points with the great style we have but it was a game I felt we would fall short in. Palace was that away game that I felt we would get our first away win with. So hopefully we can move on quickly and get prepared for this 1 with a new energy.
  35. 1 point
    My wife has looked over my shoulder and told me to apologise for the aggressive language - not a good example to my kids!!! So I apologise for the aggressive language, and to anybody it may have offended!!!! But I don’t apologise for the underlying message let’s keep some perspective !! Coming out of the ground, yesterday many moronic moaners were active!!!! (Although I know it was fresh, and I apologise for calling you a moronic moaner)
  36. 1 point
    Agree that some of the criticism is over the top, although largely I think it has been fairly balanced - when we lose, there will be things we can improve on and those are discussed. When we pull off a really impressive victory against Man City there probably won’t be much we can improve on so there’s nothing negative to discuss. That’s the way of football.
  37. 1 point
    The point is that we don't have the personnel, the way Farke plays accepts that we will concede a few, I, for one am happy with that. As for Big Sam's Teams, agricultural is the best description, I hope we never play that kind of football.
  38. 1 point
    Another nonsense post by this poster in an attempt to get likes on his posts.We were stunning against City and rightly take all the plaudits. This is a football message board and yesterday’s game cannot be discussed if the fact that we started the match awfully has be be ignored, for apparently it’s seen as whinging. Everything that’s been said on here after the match is justified, as that’s what happened on the pitch. People like you don’t want any discussion unless it’s head in the sand stuff. so we may as well only post on here after a victory to keep you happy eh?
  39. 1 point
    I don't think Farke brought him on thinking he'd score two goals in 2 minutes and we'd get a draw. I imagine it was more of his man / team management. I would think Roberts hasn't quite shown enough in training or the right attitude or a combination of things hence us not seeing much of him so far this season.
  40. 1 point
    I agree with much of this but I don’t think we beat Man City because they underestimated us. We had an approach against Man City which worked well against them. Against Burnley we gave away a couple of early goals and then struggled to convert our chances. That’s football - you can beat the Chanpions on merit on Saturday and a week later lose to a team way down the league.
  41. 1 point
    I think we missed Max's energy, athleticism & dribbling skills. Byram's perhaps more consistent defending was useful against ManC - but was he involves in any of our breaks? Which were our main threat in that game. The makeshift Amadou/Godfrey pairing got exposed.too. We really miss Christoph in this sort of game, I think he would have been ideal against Wood; in fact this game reminded me of Champs. games last year, only Burnley were that much better & stronger all round. I just hope our CBs can get better together until Zimbo gets back. I saw on another site that Max said he'll be back next week. I hope he's right. He's an integral part of our game.
  42. 1 point
    A bit of balance here guys, last week we were Barcelona, this week we're 1p5wich.
  43. 1 point
    This is a joke post, right?, like the opener? I genuinely can’t believe you’re being truly serious? I don’t know if you only follow us when we’re Premier League or wotnot, but you do seem to be massively unaware that this Norwich City side has become renowned in the last 18 or so months under Farke and Webber for having much stronger second half performances than first half. It’s a common theme for us to pick up stronger during our second half performances... so with that in mind.... 🤷🏻‍♂️ Regardless of that information, you suggest, with hindsight 🤦🏻‍♂️, making 3 changes on 45 mins? Seriously? How many professional football managers do you see do this regularly?, if even at all? What happens when one or two players have to come off with either injuries or season threatening niggles early on in the second half? What would be your clever plan B then? Honestly, with respect, there is so much to be completely baffled about by your post.
  44. 1 point
    It's all part of God's plan. Like Job, we're being tested. He doth move in a mysterious way (but not as good as Emi).
  45. 1 point
    Yes our options are severely restricted by the amount of injuries we have.
  46. 1 point
    No but we could try bringing on our all subs earlier. Like 45 minutes earlier when it was so obvious that we were not at the races and nothing was changing. We could have taken any one of McLean, Buendia, Stiepermann, and Cantwell off at half time and given Roberts a try. We could have brought on Hanley and and moved Godfrey upfront. We could have tried having 2 strikers on the pitch at the same time. Any of this would have been better than sitting on your hands watching it all going pear shaped and doing nothing. I think Farke needs to accept the criticism this week just like he accepted the praise last week.
  47. 1 point
    Let's be honest - we've assembled a team on a shoe-string budget to play a very specific way. Because of this, we just don't have the personnel to suddenly up and change our play style. We are always going to struggle against big, physical, direct teams.
  48. 1 point
    Painful to mention this, but f%(€ING Lawro was right
  49. 1 point
    supposedly Man U were sniffing round a few years ago so he clearly always had the vision and skill but I imagine he is very much a confidence player. He will have gained so much from his efforts over the last month. Amazing that a clumsy step from Hernandez has had such a positive effect on our season 😂
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