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Every where you look negative city fans, GET A GRIP!!!! No disgrace in first 3 games!!! Yes at West Ham we looked second rate, a poor performance they happen!!! Far too many city fans believed we would sweep in on a cloud and hit top 10. Get real, this season is going to be a hard slog, every point hard fought, we know that. We are likely to be bottom at the end of September given the fixture list!! But lose heart, as many are doing on the posts today and yesterday, we will be relegated by Christmas!!! Wake up smell the coffee and metaphorically roll up the sleeves and get behind the boys!!!

True. I think its more born out of frustration though. Losing Klose and Hernandez to injuries has been a massive blow, with Zim too. I Think supporters feel we're not quite able to give a full account of ourselves currently. Pundits are already turning to criticise us, without appreciating the key early injuries we've sustained. That's incredibly irritating. Perhaps we need a reality check. We probably are a top end championship club, so perhaps treat this season as a free hit, enjoy it, and see where we end up? Lets continue our fantastic home support with all the flags and visual displays, and continue to draw plaudits that way. Ultimately, the future is still very bright. As long as Webber and Farke are committed long term then I think we'll reap more rewards in the next few seasons. We spent a lot of the last transfer window preparing for just that. OTBC.

And another thing - even if we didn’t get another point, got tanked 5 - 0 every week ( I don’t personally think that will happen), it was still worth it. To have last season one of the best, most exciting I have witnessed in nearly 50yrs of going to Carrow road. (When all I expected was mid-table mediocrity ) It’s a big step up !! The young lads are only now seeing how big, it will take the likes of Max (let’s not forget he is still a kid!!) time to learn and grow!!! Swallowed a positive pill this morning!!!

Only 4 games I know but we've had Liverpool, Chelsea and W Ham away. Not the easiest return to the PL by any means. So overall 3 points from 4 games is not that bad. Even our GD at -4 is not out of line with other Clubs currently in the bottom half and most of those teams have had easier fixtures than ours. Play like we did in the first 3 games and we can realistically expect to beat, either home or away or both, any team from those who are currently in position 12 downwards (+ of course Sheff Utd). Even with the likes of Leicester, Everton, Palace and possibly Man U we have a decent chance of picking up points because in most games we will play an awful lot better than we did yesterday. We might be 19th but we are not bottom and we are by no means adrift. I'm not saying we are going to be top 10 but staying up is still a realistic prospect. One bad game does not have to indicate that we are going to have a bad season.

I am happy to get behind the team, always have, always will.............but.........at the beginning of the season I decided that it is extremely likely we will get relegated, I have no issue with that. I love the way we play, I love the fact we have such young stars with huge potential, I love the way the club is being run..........but none of that stops me from being sure we will be relegated, I intend to enjoy every moment of this season despite that belief.........

I don't know about that, I think 90% of us are in that middle ground where we're happy to discuss things fairly. There will always be people who are ridiculously positive or ridiculously negative, but I think the forum's actually striking a pretty good balance at the moment. Match threads are always going to be a bit aggy because emotions are raw and people are more instantaneous with their posting.

Fixed that Laps. 😀

By the last 2 performances, do you mean Crawley or Chelsea? Crawley doesn't matter, a completely new 11 given a run out. As for Chelsea, Europa Cup Winners and 3rd last year, yes they won, and they deserved to, but we were in the game for the full 90 and were a crossbar away from a point. ...as for points, I don't get yours.

Yep, amazing wasnt it. The thing that got me was how loud it was and how the sound of the crowd travelled around the stadium as we watched Mo.

There's another one of those about 40 miles South of here. Apart from the 'good' bit!

Do you know that I do all the games home and away, am a member of the Gunn club and have an 8xl replica shirt! I bet you still have trouble getting it over your head

Seems like it’s a good stadium for anything apart from football.

I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere on this forum yet, but for anyone who is wondering what happened to Alexis Claude-Maurice and needs closure, he ended up joining Nice for around €15m on Thursday. Nice have just been bought by the British billionaire Jim Ratcliffe and have seemingly made the most of their new found wealth this week with some big signings and no doubt have lofty ambitions over the next few years. You can't really blame Claude-Maurice for turning us down. Also, I miss this thread.

Yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at. I'm generally pretty positive, but having been at the match yesterday there were definitely concerns to consider. Let's not start polarising between Percy Positives and Nancy Negatives. It's fine to notice and discuss weaknesses and vulnerabilities, just as it is to big the players up where they perform well. Because of the league we're in, it will be much easier to spot the weaknesses; just discussing them doesn't imply a disloyalty to the club, the manager or the players.

Winning is good for morale and confidence. Losing isn’t. Last season our youngest players in particular developed a lot. This season they must continue to do the same. This is a big ask both in footballing terms and more so in terms of the mentality that will be required. If we can keep the unity and positive mentality in more adverse situations we will have achieved something special. It is a lot to ask of our team and of the individuals in it.

Yes Rhino, I’m sure our young foreign players are spending their downtime reading the pink un forum...

It is interesting the posters that have already started turning so quickly, and not unexpected at all to be honest. I think Farke and the lads deserve a lot more respect and loyalty than this, I’ve seen that our boys can certainly give a game to way better sides than a cynical yet savvy West Ham. Watching the game, I just felt we were having an off day, which does happen to all teams occasionally but for some reason this still needs pointing out. I think there’s a lot of overreaction on here and the usual suspects are revelling in at as was so predictable to many of us. My concern isn’t the performance, our boys can play much better than that for people with short memories. It’s the injury crisis at the back. With any luck we’ve just got to the international break in time, and Zimbo and Hanley will be back in contention. On a real positive note, I thought Amadou looked like he has something about him, and when up to speed could make a real difference protecting the back 4 - he made some good interceptions today, showed a bit of muscle and I think will be just what we need. I’m quite excited for what he can potentially bring to our side. So that’s my positive from a game that only finished 2-0 away.

The referee lacked a level of control in the game, particularly with the heavy challenges and diving in the first half, and quashing it early on with a booking for Haller might have changed that. Equally it could have made zero difference, it's all conjecture. I think what Farke is miffed about is that an opposition player has made a bad and obviously cynical challenge on one of our guys, and his reward was arguably an easier path to the opening goal whilst ours is a crocked player in a difficult position.

Unfortunately for us you thinking that this is an opportunity for us to get points will have absolutely no bearing on the reality that plays out on the pitch. Of cause our management and players will approach the game believing they have a chance. But just like the Liverpool match the only way we get anything out of this is if Man City have an off day and our players turn up and put in the performance of their lives. If this game is played out 100 times, we would lose at least 90 of them, that’s the task ahead

Scarves

It must be like being threatened by Monty Python's Hell's Grannies.

Historically, there are usually about half a dozen after a loss criticising happy clappers for being blind and clueless and not being able to see that the sky is falling in. As I said, the board's in a good place at the moment and the vast majority of the discussion is fair in both directions. Long may it continue!

Ditto - attended Super Saturday when the three Golds were presented - amazing.

Pleased we made some money, but very disappointed with the result obviously. Feel for Hansterbubble, the six results are a nightmare at the start of the season, and I thought the picks were top drawer. Onwards and upwards.

What you had yesterday was many fans watching an away game on a live stream at the same as posting on the Pinkun. That's going to happen every City away match as the EPL games are so easy to find, so get used to it. Frustration quickly became part of the Pinkun conversation as the players delivered a lacklustre performance, with very few stepping up to plate. This is an internet forum so people are free to voice their opinions and to be fair the comments arising during the match were very realistic and after all we were all watching the same game at the same time. As always on the Pinkun as soon as someone has a differing opinion they are shot down. If the players are silly enough to get drawn into social media and allow it to affect their performances then perhaps professional football isn't the job for them. In terms of City's start it's a case of must do better. A decent start against Liverpool and Newcastle. Good for the 1st half against Chelsea, but rubbish in our last 2 games. A long way to go and we are more than capable of avoiding relegation so long as we learn from our mistakes and improve. I don't want the situation where we had that humiliating season under Alex Neil and **** away a fantastic opportunity for the club.

Roberts is ineligible.

Did you notice the way we were directed out, causing the away fans to be at the back of the queue for getting to the station ?

It’s not designed for football which is the problem. I was miles away from the pitch at Wembley but was close to the tiers below, so the atmosphere was able to carry. The levels at the London Stadium are separated by some weird platforms, by way of how the place was originally built for 2012 I guess. The Emirates and Etihad are huge stadiums but with stands close to the pitch, so you feel close to the action. I can’t see the place ever having much character, and I don’t think I’d bother going again. Most of their fans were unfriendly and not gracious in victory; that was a negative too.

Funny, I thought that yesterday he bust a gut to be both up top trying to disrupt things for them and to try to hold on to things for us as well a lot of defensive work. But Looks like a guy playing at max effort only to just fall short of the standard required . Maybe it amounts to the same thing, and we've come to the same conclusion by different means. This season will really test our players abilities, some may prove not sufficient for this level, but I'm sure others will shine. Still enjoying it though.

Give it another tug (if you can find it), it might not cheer you up but it will give you something to do with your hands.

You can get cream to treat that!

The club site now shows this game as sold out.

My worry is our defence is so young and inexperienced and that's showing. Whilst gems for the future we desperately need some experience to sure up very simple mistakes which is costing us goals (& which costed us goals last season, but in PL you really get punished) Still think we need Amadou in midfield to give us some much needed muscle and break up attacks/protect the defence. On the plus side once we've played Man C we'll have played 3 teams who finished in top 4 last season and games we can really get results in. And despite the table not looking good, one win, would push us right up the table, so plenty to play for. Let's hope Zimbo and Hanley can return quickly

Havnt seen MOTD yet, but really worried me that he stayed on for so long, the fact that he did would suggest it was a twisted ankle. which sometimes during a game you can run off.

Like most managers Farke has to blame someone or something after such a poor performance. He's never going to come out and admitt that we were way below our normal standards so that leaves the officials to carry the can.

Are you Jools in disguise? Your posts are boring, repetitive and above all, incoherent. Just look at what you wrote above - go on, read it twice... slowly does it. There you go.

it is if you're watching on a black and white tv

I just don’t care - the marketing moron who ever allowed NCFC to enter a contract that requires us to wear any strip other than yellow and green except on the very few occasions (Watford) where there is a clash should be fired. As Webber has said, it is all about fine margins, and yellow and green is our unique and iconic brand - you should not ever willingly throw that advantage away.... grrrrrrrr!

Disagree. Same formation, same style, possibly different personnel. It doesn't matter if we park the bus or not, we'll almost certainly lose. Let's go down swinging having a go at them.

Haha, I've also put him on the bench for next week. Only Teemu remains in my XI.

Cantwell has delivered significantly more than Buendia has so far this season. Buendia today was guilty more than most of needlessly giving the ball away. That's then made worse by the fact theres only half a chance he'll track it back, half the time he'll throw a fit instead.

I don't think we should write off Tettey, because it feels like he's been written off annually for about 4 years now and each time he's surprised us all with a spell of good form. It usually ends with him getting injured and losing momentum again, but if he remains niggle free I can envisage him being a handy squad player.... Gary O'Neil wasn't exactly Kante was he, but look at the form and fight we got out of him when he was 32.

I'm quite happy the spectacles are off, in fact it's probably a necessity for our Premier League survival. A swift kick up the jacksy early on never hurt anyone, as long as we learn from it. Onwards and upwards.

Hanley's injury is just a muscle strain. Farke expects him back in training soon enough for Man City. That should lead to a few threads on here!

Are we now in “ anyone not playing is brilliant “ territory?

I read that as "the day my testicles fell off". Maybe you could grow another pair?

Unfortunately the OP is probably right. All is not lost though, there is plenty of time for this group to grow into the league. I also thought when Zimmerman was on the pitch until he got injured we looked decent at the back. When everything is done we just have to be in that 17th position this season

Thought Trybull did OK that half! Stiepermann just does not look interested most of the time. If only Roberts was on the bench, I would take off Stiepermann, push Cantwell into that role and have Roberts, Buendia out wide.

Couldn't agree more. This has been one of the best posts/threads ever on this site.