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Are we now in “ anyone not playing is brilliant “ territory?

I’m not sure what people are expecting, this is the Premier League and we’ll playing in a tougher league than last season. We won’t win as many games, we go into every game as the underdog and will do well to stay in the league. We all know the financial situation and that we couldn’t spend a fortune and even that doesn’t mean success. This is a 3-5 year plan not a 1 year plan. It’s like that deluded lot down the road crowing because they’re doing well, they should be as they are playing in a worse division 🤷🏻‍♂️

Well played Tim Krul - without his performance this could have been a very damaging defeat rather than an off-day. And yes trolls, that is what it was - just an off day.

Cantwell has delivered significantly more than Buendia has so far this season. Buendia today was guilty more than most of needlessly giving the ball away. That's then made worse by the fact theres only half a chance he'll track it back, half the time he'll throw a fit instead.

Absolutely. A few posters who said after promotion they entirely understood this was a long-term plan, in which we would not spend money we didn’t have, have got very short memories. Not only are we up against better players, we are facing very smart managers and head coaches. Lastly, the complaint that our summer signings have not been obvious upgrades ignores the difficulty of a yo-yo club, which is at best how overseas players will regard is, attracting real upgrades. The French player Claude-Maurice was an example. I don’t blame him for turning us down, given how uncertain a future he would have been signing into. No accident that Amadou, who may well be an upgrade, is only on a season-long loan.

Both completely unacceptable Man City at home is now a must win or unfortunately I will be turning against Farke Chris Hughtons return is looking more attractive by the game

I’m taking Emi out of my fantasy team, should be the kick up the backside he needs

Oh? That’s bloody rich coming from you!!! If we have a choice of rushing him back partially fit or resting to the following game, I certainly know what I’d do. There’s no point taking any risk vs Man City, and if you suggest otherwise you’re completely mad.

Couldn't agree more with the title of this thread. A couple of losses and: Pete has jumped on the chance to knock anything to do with the club Posters have started to single out individuals as the source of all our woes Lakey is spouting blind optimism that every game is winnable, I'm sure he'll be along shortly to tell us we'll get back to winning ways by thumping Man City next week Waveney is demanding a messiah to solve all our problems And we're still in August. It's like groundhog day.

Don't feed it. He tugging himself into a frenzy at the thought of getting reactions from other posters.

Had a great game today, almost singlehandedly kept the score respectable. Well done Tim!

Possibly our best player today

Who have comfortably finished between 7th and 13th since they got back into the Prem. A good marker and we know we need to do better.

It's a tough one, but Farke will know whether the carrot or the stick is the best approach. Either way, he's way below the minimum standard required of him at the moment. We really need to get him firing somehow.

We can't simply rely on Lewis and Aarons for pace. They're getting caught upfield more frequently and it's starting to show. A faster player on the bench is surely a better option than yet another central midfielder with no real speed? If Roberts was training well I believe he would be on the bench for this reason alone. All guesswork, but I don't think he can be settling in very well. Agree totally about your assessment of Buendia/Cantwell though, well said.

Webber is on his way over there now. 😀

Would fans of Bournemouth, Watford, Southampton, Burnley etc be howling after a 2-0 defeat away to West Ham ... no. This happens in the big league. If you underperform when the whistle blows you will almost certainly lose. There are 38 games to gather 36 points ... lets not over examine individual games.

Watch them all return. Those that don't owe money anyway...

For balance I’ll first play the post... No it’s not unacceptable, Crawley was a changed 11 (and a then enforced sub which put a new signing in not their preferred position) and a deflected goal. West Ham are a good side and we had an off day, it’s going to happen and shows how up for it we need to be consistently to get anything out of games at this level. Man City is not a must win, nobody thinks so, not even you, stop attention seeking for the sake of it, it’s very very sad. and now the poster... I don’t care if you’ve been to every game in the entire history of NCFC, you are the worst example of a fan I’ve ever come across. This is the first and last time I will bite at the drivel you type in what must be a very lonely and sad (online at least) existence. There you go, you’ve got what you wanted. Goodbye. 😊

The day his testicles fell off?

Buendia needs dropping and restoring to the first team when he decides he's up for the fight.

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Should be much easier to get away tickets

Psychologically the WHU away game is very important; lose and Norwich are on a slippery slope - win and things look much brighter. A top, top performance is needed!

It's not madness. it's prioritising. 99 times out of 100 we lose to Man City, if we have our best players, our second string, or 14 players on the pitch, we will very likely still lose. I understand your opinion but when we are targeting survival, a game against Man City is pretty irrelevant, a game against Burnley or Palace is not, as we have a significant chance of points against them, we don't against Man City.

I actually wanted Vrancic on at half time for Marco or Emi. The truth was we created almost nothing even when we were on top early on and that has to be Marco, Emi and Cantwell. I suspect significant changes after the break (reminds me of last years start).

To be honest, West Ham did a professional job on us today. They knew Zimmerman wasn't 100% and obviously targeted him for a bit of treatment early on which, not surprisingly, they got away with. Same with Noble constantly getting under Cantwell's skin. In general, they bullied us all over the pitch and we couldn't cope with it. This is the PL and it doesn't take long for teams to know what your weaknesses are and how to stop you playing how you want to. Pellegrini obviously had us sussed.

We had 3 points from the first 4 games last season in the championship. If we follow the same progress as last season, I look forward to being crowned Premier League Champions next year.

Zimmerman looked very good until Hallers challenge. The sliding block stopping an almost certain goal was superb.

Agreed on that but before that ****e late tackle on Zimbo we looked pretty good, just feel he should of started ahead of Steipermann in a game of this sort, we need to be solid, we still have Leitner, Cantwell and Buendia to creat things.

The Unsullied

We have no right to expect wins. But Farke made 11 changes against Crawley and I was expecting more from the 'first team' today. It was lacklustre lazy football.

We're a point away from 10th place. 😀

It's now we need the mental strength and the players need support. OK they might not be big, old or good enough but that isn't their fault and we have to at least not get on their backs. The Crawley loss was unacceptable on several levels but we have no right to expect wins in the EPL.

0/10. Must do better. OTBC

A bad day at the office. Or at least it would have been if we had bothered to turn up.

Yeah, probably a poorly played loss. Hope I'm wrong though.

The worry is that this is West Ham

Agree with TMDB & NN all day long. It's marathon not a sprint, we were gash last year up to the Binner match and then stepped up and grew together as a team. You will only improve by playing teams better than you.

They took time to adapt first season. Remember how much criticism Vrancic got. Maddison carried the team that season. Next season they were a different animal. They will need time to adapt again. We mustnt lose our heads and turn on the players. The team has lots of potential and they are cutting their teeth at present. 17th is good enough for me and is unlikely to be out of sight at any point this season

off goes the diving **

If only we had one

Beat me to it. Buendia hasn’t exactly hit the ground running either tho, just pulls up every time he is tackled. Vrancic needs to be on

Not hugely encouraging so far and it feels like most of our issues stem from midfield. Steipermann just looks like a non-factor at this level, not in the game at all. Trybull is far too easily bypassed and lacking in mobility. The rest of the midfield don't offer enough support defensively. For the Zimmerman block on Anderson you'd expect one of Cantwell or Trybull to cover for Lewis bombing on and for the goal Buendia didn't track the runner or close down the winger, making it far too easy for West Ham to overload us down the wing.

Binner alert !!

Hanley’s fault

dr dublin livestreams on youtube usually with Norfolk commentary

That ranking is based on web searches not on actual sales. That's why Huddersfield are ranked so high because of people googling the Paddy Power design but that doesn't mean they bought the shirt. The original article talks about popularity, it's the sports bible rehash that makes it all about sales.

I didn't know about the Scottish angle but it goes back further, it was originally a Union Army marching tune in the US Civil War. Ironic really as the first time I heard it away from football was at a family bash where some drunk Northern Irish relatives sang it but with the "Catholic boys" instead of Billy Boys with it continuing, "and if you are a Protestant surrender or you'll die". Anyway, it'll be nice seeing those bluenose filth get their comeuppance later in the series as I'm sure they inevitably will.

Cracking theatre pub just through the old Stratford shopping centre. Then roof east on top of the shopping centre, currently has batting cages and other bits up there. But hands down I would go to Hackney Wick. Hackney Wick, one stop on the overground from Stratford and on the edge of the Olympic park, has amazing pubs. Crate brewery and pizzeria is always busy, over looking the canal. Howling hops is London only tank bar, tanks that go up to the ceiling. There about 5 or 6 cool pubs there, much better than the big chain Westfield. 4 quarters and a row of about 3 bars including the breakfast club, overlook the canal on the other side in the Olympic park. 4 quarters is full of old arcade games. It helps that I sell beer and cider within London 😉