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  1. 6 points
    I have had several posters ask me recently to write a piece about my early supporting days back in the early 1950ā€™s and as we are in the fairly quiet time between seasons I thought I would give it a go. This part I call "How it all started" My Grand parents lived in King Street and many years it was the family meeting place before going off to the match. I must have been six or seven years old when I first became curious about ā€œThe Canariesā€ or ā€œCarrow Roadā€. I think it all started while listening to bits of excited conversation between my dad and my uncles on Saturday lunchtimes in the early 1950ā€™s. The excited tones must have got through to me because I soon began to pester my dad to take me to a match. My dad was an engraver and sign writer and couldnā€™t leave the shop on Saturdays so my first trip down to Carrow Road was with my uncle Bert and my cousin Mike. Now many people say they have vivid recollections of their first game but in all honestly I canā€™t recall very much other than I think it was a pre-season game which they used to call Possibles v Probables. I canā€™t remember the score or anything other than the surge of noise and excitement every time the ball got near the goalmouth and I was pretty much hooked on it from that first moment. This was in the decade following WW2 and apart from the football, the cinema and radio there wasnā€™t a great deal in the way of entertainment. Not that many could afford it anyway, the country was skint and food rationing was only now coming to an end. I think this was the 1953/54 season and although I was taken to three or four league matches I have very little recollection of them now. What I can remember are the names, Tom Johnstone, Alfy Ackerman, Johnny Gavin and Bobby Brennan. I have no visual memories of the first two but the latter two were to become my earliest heroā€™s. In the early 1950ā€™s the kick off time was 3.15pm while it was light enough and then 2.15pm once the clocks went back. Floodlit matches didnā€™t start until the latter part of the decade. We used to head off down King St, past innumerable pubs, shops and factories, the vast majority which have passed into memory. Rouen Road didnā€™t exist at that time, just a multitude of little lanes and alleys that ran all the way down from Ber St. The whole area was a maze of Victorian terraces, interspersed with the odd open space still evidencing the scale of the bombing that had scarred our City a decade before. As a small boy I found enormous pleasure in exploring those narrow alleys with their flights of steps going up to different levels and with shops and pubs on every corner. The crowds would stream down them on match days and at each junction with King St. hundreds more were added to the ever increasing throng headed for Carrow Bridge, for there was no other way across the Wensum, except at Thorpe Station. There seemed to be a pub every fifty yards or so, The Builders Arms, The Tuns, The Ship, The Old Barge, The Wherry, The Ferry Boat, The Kingsway and probably a few more that Iā€™ve forgotten. The abiding smell was of beer from the pubs and Breweries and tobacco smoke because virtually every man had a fag or a pipe on the go and everyone seemed to wear a hat or a cap and a gabardine raincoat. Nowadays itā€™s fashionable to turn up in the latest replica kit or during inclement weather, a woolly NCFC hat with matching gloves and scarf. Back in the 50ā€™s most fans just came in their ordinary daily clothes and just occasionally you would see somebody with a home knitted yellow and green scarf. For FA Cup games you might see a few rosettes and of course wooden clackers that seem now to have largely passed into history. The bright modern stadium we see today bares little resemblance to the Carrow Road of the 1950ā€™s. It was then a fairly drab looking structure with dark painted fencing and wooden turnstiles. It looked exactly what it was, something that had been knocked together in double quick time without thought for any long term utility. What will always remain in the memory are the huge green painted iron gates that used to be swung open by groundsman Russell Alison just after halftime. There were always a few who couldnā€™t afford it and would creep in and see part of the game for free. The terraces were just large earth mounds covered in grass at the rear with two or three sets of concrete steps leading up to the summit. The fencing at the back of the terracing was simply a line of elongated railway sleepers set on end with the occasional bit of advertising hoarding on top. It wasnā€™t permitted but at big matches people would climb on these for a better view. We usually entered from Carrow Road into the ground ( I think it was either nine pence or maybe a shilling for boys) and then went up the side steps onto the River End terrace. This was only partially concreted and for many years a large potion of the standing terracing consisted of railway sleepers. We called it the River End for obvious reasons but in reality it was part of ā€œThe Groundā€ as you could stand anywhere right round as far as the corner of the Barclay for the same price. It was all open terracing; the only cover was the Barclay and Main stand. In the corner where they built the Disabled stand was a curved bit of terracing that stood beneath the old Pinkun Score-board. It was a large black painted structure with letters from A to Z painted on it. At halftime a man would come out of a little door and hang numbers on hooks underneath each letter. If you had a programme you could match up the games with the letters on the board. You may well laugh but that was the state of technology at the time. Mobile phones and the Internet were something out of the Eagle comic and Dan Dare ā€œPilot of the Futureā€. You had no knowledge at all of other games and results unless you got home in time for Sports Report on the BBC at five oā€™clock. You could not enter the ground from directly behind the South stand because there was a water filled **** that ran up from the river. I think this was still there even into the 1970ā€™s. We used to walk round from the River End and stand half a dozen rows back and directly in line with the penalty area. I think that is why many of my early memories are of goals scored at that end. One that always sticks in my mind is Bobby Brennanā€™s opening goal against Sheffield Utd in the ā€™59 Cup run. After the South Stand was covered in 1960 I used to move to which ever end we were shooting in and change at half time because that decade was mainly a dull time and there was nearly always plenty of room. It was during that time when we said goodbye to the railway sleepers and all of the terracing was concreted. In the early days there was a concrete slope that you could use to exit the South stand if you wanted to leave by the Thorpe End. When the Stand was improved and extended this was eliminated and you could only get out at the corner through a smallish opening that led to a narrow flight of steps. At the final whistle there was a rush for this exit and you were squeezed out above a precarious 30 foot drop. Thankfully there was a strong steel barrier to save the unwary. The back of the Barclay was just a grass covered mound with steps leading up. There were brick toilets in both corners I think and a large wooden building serving as a bar for half-time refreshment which consisted mainly of bottles of Steward and Pattersonā€™s Light Ale. When the second half resumed there would be hundreds of empty bottles left on the shelves that ran along the front of the bar. If it rained hard you had the choice of the Barclay Stand and at any time during the match you had the option to pay either three-pence or sixpence to transfer through a little gate in the fencing to get under cover. If I went in the Barclay I liked to stand to the right of goal and it was from here that I have a strong memory of standing with my dad in 1960 the night we beat Southend 4-3 to gain promotion to Division 2. We lived just off Plumstead Road at the time and used to get the 92 bus to Rosary corner. We would walk back and he would tell me stories about the old days when City played at the Nest on Rosary Road . Because of his work he could only get to evening matches so those few occasions that we stood together are especially treasured in my memory. I remember him taking me to the first ever floodlit match atCarrow Road in 1957. It was a friendly against Sunderland, I still have the programme. The faƧade of the main stand was the only brick built structure. The seating was mostly wooden forms with a numbered space. Only the centre block had tip up wooden seats but that was for the toffs and well out of our reach. In front of the seated area was a narrow standing terrace about ten steps wide that was called The Enclosure. You could get a transfer into it from the ground for a small sum. I stood in there a few times but I only ever recall going in the main stand on one occasion. That was on a rather chilly Boxing Day in 1958 when my dad decided it would be a Christmas treat. We played Reading and Roy McCrohan scored the only goal with 25 yard scorcher at the Barclay End. Itā€™s over sixty years ago but I can still see it as though it was yesterday and it still brings a tear to my eye when I think of it. I'm sorry if it's a bit long but once I started the memories came flooding back and I found it hard to stop.
  2. 4 points
    I think Dickens wrote something about the relative performance of East Anglian teams last season. "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way..."
  3. 2 points
    Some fans seem to think players trying to maximise their value is makes you a bad person.
  4. 2 points
    Ah yes - that classic Dickens novel - A Tale of One City and One Town.
  5. 2 points
    I think, if we are buying Turnbull for the kind of money reported, then loaning him out to the Championship would be the last thing we'd do! He'll get into the squad, after a bedding in period, as with a number of our signings. Looks a very good player and his goal/assist return from an attacking midfield position last season was pretty decent.
  6. 2 points
    One of the main things we will see is attacking players deliberately kicking the ball into defenders hands. Mane did it in the Championsā€™ League final and clubs will see it is an easy way to get a penalty - which are currently a 75% chance of a goal - but the new keeper rules will become an 80% chance. Hope everyone likes penalties, because we will be seeing a lot of them next season, for and against. Norwich might need to find someone who can actually score them now.
  7. 1 point
    If its got him (and his agent) and bigger transfer fee and wage out of Celtic off the back of drumming up interest from other clubs, I'd say they've handled it quite well?
  8. 1 point
    A visible stop-clock should be introduced alongside VAR. It seems to work well in Rugby Union, and it would clarify to managers, players and fans alike exactly what time is left towards the end of a game. VAR will introduce ridiculous amounts of minutes after the ā€˜90ā€™ which no doubt will add unnecessary controversy.
  9. 1 point
    Seems his move to Celtic is back on according to the BBC.
  10. 1 point
    I know nothing about this player except for watching the video. He scores lots of goals because he takes the penalties and because he is two footed and because he isnā€™t marked and because in Scotland a lot of goal keepers play with their eyes shut and some are possibly still drunk from the night before. Heā€™s already turned down Celtic so, in the words of Gianfranco Zola maybe we are dealing with a ā€œCharlie Big Potatoesā€. If so heā€™s not for us. But maybe heā€™s a humble and enormous talent that Webber has scouted rigorously. Could he make our first team and set the premiership on fire? I have absolutely no idea.
  11. 1 point
    So what happens now - extra time or penalties?
  12. 1 point
    So these are the new totals.. And with Ā£5,337 for the CSF from the Pink Un Pledges, sponsorships donations and competitions we now have a total of Ā£12,854 since we began and after presenting Ā£2,324 on April 6th we have Ā£937 towards the next presentation.
  13. 1 point
    Crikey, if people are starting to consider this ā€˜drawn outā€™ what on earth was the Robbie Brady transfer?! We only knew we were interested in Turnbull less than 48 hours ago, these are Ā£multi million deals, they are unlikely to just happen overnight.
  14. 1 point
    One thing I did feel was quite bonkers was the huge wage increase he was (apparently) offered by Celtic. He was on Ā£600 a week at Motherwell. Celtic offered Ā£12,000 a week and he still didn't take it as he wants more and his agent felt they could get it in England...
  15. 1 point
    Same reason ā€˜bigā€™ clubs didnā€™t move for Wanyama, van Dijk and Andy Robertson. The relative weakness of the Scottish League makes it hard to judge how good players actually are. Smaller clubs have to take these risks in the hope the talent translates and they have been robustly scouted.
  16. 1 point
    Indeed, we spent less than that on Buendia (initially). Don't want to raise expectations, but I can't see him not being involved in the first team squad (apologies for the double negative!). From the Youtube clip, he looks a really promising young player.
  17. 1 point
    They've got bigger fish to fry. We're shopping for Mars bars when they want lobster.
  18. 1 point
    would be peak banter to be fair. Reply to the tweet of their article as well.
  19. 1 point
    Maybe archant should do our own where goals scored only by Finnish players count and then see what the league looks like. šŸ™ˆ
  20. 1 point
  21. 1 point
    Maddison was like half that initially as well. If he had flopped, we wouldn't have paid out Ā£3m for him
  22. 1 point
    I agree with this , I don't think we would be spending that kind of money ( nearly a quarter of our budget) on a player , to send him out on loan tbh. He could be a good squad player to have ... but not more than that initially , will need some time to adapt...
  23. 1 point
    Not really sure we were building anything-the 87/88 team finished 14th, the 88/89 team finished 4th and reached the FA Cup semi-final (can't believe that squad lost to the poor 96/97 squad) but then we finished 10th, 15th and 18th, narrowly avoiding relegation-the 92/93 season was completely out of the blue.
  24. 1 point
    Wow! Thanks MarkšŸŒŸ You PUPs truly are amazing. šŸ’›šŸ’š I'll adjust the totals next chance I get. OTBC
  25. 1 point
    "The closest contender to such a feat is Cosgrove at Aberdeen, who amassed 30% of his team's goals, followed by Steven Naismith bagging around a quarter of Hearts' goals in the league." Save Ā£4 million, and offer this guy a new contract. If Turnbull is the new Ballack, perhaps Naismith is a born-again Bastian Schweinsteiger?
  26. 1 point
    Hi Shef , this is where my Uncle John ordered it https://www.historic-newspapers.co.uk/gifts/sports-books/personalised-football-books/norwich-football-book/
  27. 1 point
    Shame we haven't actually signed him šŸ˜¶
  28. 1 point
    Weā€™re buying midfielders because Todd hasnā€™t signed and Marioā€™s contract has not been extended. Plus itā€™s a good time to buy young players with high potential. We need to make hay while the sun is shining. Agree with the point on Hanley though if we get an injury or suspension we need someone of his calibre to step in.
  29. 1 point
    Opposite ends of a wave TGMD, with the arrival of Flecky you could feel like we were building something in '87. By '93 we'd reached the Crest of that wave, within 2 years it was all overšŸ™
  30. 1 point
    If its no longer FLDC they will be no use to us for developing our youth. Without Lampards tactical genius they're certs for relegation
  31. 1 point
    Or Cromwells, Crockers or Scamps we'd know exactly!!
  32. 1 point
    I have to agree with you Hog, I wouldn't turn on my team in case we got thumped. But I am worried , don't be naive , the PL is an unforgiving league! I reckon we need a few gooduns in , only a few , but they need to be up to it...agreed?
  33. 1 point
    I think that's about the jist of it. Unless our youth are forcing their way out, if the club has faith they will perform in the prem, we must keep them for at least this season. You look at Maddison, worth Ā£25m after one championship season, and now if he went for the reported Ā£60m, no one would bat an eye. If the belief in talent is there - the smart option is gambling on raising the value upwards of 100%.
  34. 1 point
    I am beyond underwhelmed. Patrick Roberts, Daniel Adshead, David Turnbull, Charlie Gilmour? These are all very boring names. Ditto Vincent Thill. What is the point of signing a Luxembourger if they don't have a suitably weird moniker? And ditto Josip Drmic. Totally commonplace and almost pronounceable by Swiss-Croatian standards. Pretty much the same with Marvin Bakalorz, although anything with a "z" in it has a touch of the exotic. I got briefly excited when it looked as if we might sign our first ever double-barrelled player, but it seems Alexis Claude-Maurice is off to Arsenal. The sooner the commercial department has a serious word with Webber about the need to boost shirt sales the better. All this emphasis on prioritisng players purely on their football ability is missing a vital point.
  35. 1 point
    The Binners came 13th under this scenario. They're thinking of having a statue erected to commemorate their wonderful triumph over us..
  36. 1 point
    I wonder how attendances would compare if only those who owned a whippet were allowed into games
  37. 1 point
    Has he not offered 5p in the Ā£ NN?
  38. 0 points
    Bl**dy alcohol. Why do people always think they need to have alcohol to have a good time?!
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